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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by R - elists <li...@abbacomm.net> on 2011/07/12 04:51:55 UTC

spamassassin 3.3.2 rpms for el4 / centos4 etc ???

apologies we missed the memo(s)

evidentally doing an rpmbuild -tb after downloading the 3.3.2 tarball doesnt
work for rhel4 / centos4 et al?

wow... always seemed like a 3 minute process to me

anyways, i think ive about exhausted a week of google foo.

rpms or tips anyone?

 -rh


Re: spamassassin 3.3.2 rpms for el4 / centos4 etc???

Posted by Benny Pedersen <me...@junc.org>.
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:51:55 -0700, R - elists wrote:
> apologies we missed the memo(s)
>
> evidentally doing an rpmbuild -tb after downloading the 3.3.2 tarball 
> doesnt
> work for rhel4 / centos4 et al?
>
> wow... always seemed like a 3 minute process to me
>
> anyways, i think ive about exhausted a week of google foo.
>
> rpms or tips anyone?

autounmask mail-filter/spamassassin-3.3.2
emerge spamassassin
etc-update

/etc/init.d/amavisd restart


sorry could not resist :)



RE: spamassassin 3.3.2 rpms for el4 / centos4 etc???

Posted by Benny Pedersen <me...@junc.org>.
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:48:51 -0700, R - elists wrote:
> warren
>
> thanks for the info
>
> where is the .spec posted ?
>
> any tips on the .spec and modifying the tree to get 3.3.2 working 
> with EL4
> until such time as EL6 server can be installed and tested please?
>
> EL6 isnt that old (comparitively) and lab testing will start on it 
> soon
>
>  - rh

http://www.google.dk/search?q=rpmbuild+howto+non+root&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:da:official&client=firefox-a 
good howtos out there if redhat is out of maintainers, make a bug to 
get it fixed in your distro

latest spec is in 3.3.1 from spamassassin tarball

just modify it to 3.3.2 and commit it to el4 maintainers, if succed all 
el4 users can install and update without any problems again

if in hurry make sure to make rpmbuild non rooted

RE: spamassassin 3.3.2 rpms for el4 / centos4 etc ???

Posted by R - elists <li...@abbacomm.net>.
warren

thanks for the info

where is the .spec posted ?

any tips on the .spec and modifying the tree to get 3.3.2 working with EL4
until such time as EL6 server can be installed and tested please?

EL6 isnt that old (comparitively) and lab testing will start on it soon

 - rh



Re: spamassassin 3.3.2 rpms for el4 / centos4 etc ???

Posted by "Warren Togami Jr." <wt...@gmail.com>.
On 7/11/2011 7:53 PM, R - elists wrote:
>
>>
>> It's removal was based at least in part on a belief that it
>> was not actually usable for anybody.  You could take it up
>> with the dev list, particularly if you're up for maintaining
>> it in a way that's useful for the major rpm platforms.
>> Either way you probably want to talk to Warren Togami, the
>> resident RedHat guy.
>>
>> I'd like to see it included, but nobody was willing to maintain it.
>>
>> You should be able to easily copy the relevant files from the
>> 3.3.1 tarball, if they worked for you.
>>
>
> Darxus,
>
> thanks for the info.
>
> i checked the bug link you gave, and frankly, pulling the .spec file because
> of
>
> https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6314
>
> doesnt make any sense to me, yet what do i know...
>
> ;-)
>
> anyways, if i knew what the relevant files were between the two, id take a
> shot at it
>
> looks like it might be time to find a different solution
>
> bums us out cause we have actually been supportive (in small personal way)
> of the SA people / project.
>
>   - rh
>

I am sorry that you have been inconvenienced by this change.  It was 
done because far more often it has caused support confusion and breakage 
for RPM distributions as the rpmbuild -ta packages are incompatible with 
the way spamassassin is packaged by all distributions.  The rpmbuild -ta 
method has never been a supportable method, people often experience 
problems after installing it that way caused, report it, cause confusion 
for distributors, and in the end they were always ignored.

The official .spec file for EL5, EL6 and Fedora are identical.  It could 
technically build and work on EL4 with minor changes, but I dropped 
support for EL4 LONG AGO because the old version of perl there has 
problems with the proper operation of spamassassin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hat_enterprise_linux
In any case, it is time that you upgrade from EL4 because its supported 
lifetime ends February 2012.  Good time to upgrade to EL6 which is 
supported until the year 2017.  RHEL6 is great.  CentOS 6 was just 
released.  Scientific Linux 6 was out for a while now, and 6.1 is coming 
real soon.

Warren Togami
warren@togami.com

RE: spamassassin 3.3.2 rpms for el4 / centos4 etc ???

Posted by R - elists <li...@abbacomm.net>.
> 
> It's removal was based at least in part on a belief that it 
> was not actually usable for anybody.  You could take it up 
> with the dev list, particularly if you're up for maintaining 
> it in a way that's useful for the major rpm platforms.  
> Either way you probably want to talk to Warren Togami, the 
> resident RedHat guy.
> 
> I'd like to see it included, but nobody was willing to maintain it.
> 
> You should be able to easily copy the relevant files from the 
> 3.3.1 tarball, if they worked for you.
> 

Darxus,

thanks for the info.

i checked the bug link you gave, and frankly, pulling the .spec file because
of 

https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6314

doesnt make any sense to me, yet what do i know... 

;-)

anyways, if i knew what the relevant files were between the two, id take a
shot at it

looks like it might be time to find a different solution

bums us out cause we have actually been supportive (in small personal way)
of the SA people / project.

 - rh


Re: spamassassin 3.3.2 rpms for el4 / centos4 etc ???

Posted by da...@chaosreigns.com.
On 07/11, R - elists wrote:
> 
> apologies we missed the memo(s)
> 
> evidentally doing an rpmbuild -tb after downloading the 3.3.2 tarball doesnt
> work for rhel4 / centos4 et al?

"Furthermore, the .spec file should be removed from the tarball as
well.  It has NEVER been useful for Red Hat or Fedora, and it doesn't
reflect the reality of any other RPM based distribution either." - Warren

The rpmbuild stuff was recently removed because of this:
https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6314

> wow... always seemed like a 3 minute process to me

It's removal was based at least in part on a belief that it was not
actually usable for anybody.  You could take it up with the dev list,
particularly if you're up for maintaining it in a way that's useful for
the major rpm platforms.  Either way you probably want to talk to Warren
Togami, the resident RedHat guy.

I'd like to see it included, but nobody was willing to maintain it.

You should be able to easily copy the relevant files from the 3.3.1
tarball, if they worked for you.

-- 
"If you are not paranoid... you may not be paying attention."
 - jimh@creative-net.net, on an IDPA mailing list
http://www.ChaosReigns.com