The official name is Apache Geronimo.

["n. alex rupp" <ru...@umn.edu>]

My word is by no means official around here, but the name is and should
remain Apache Geronimo.  I'll tell you five good reasons why.

1.  It's got amazing traction in the press. Brand recognition is an
IMMENSELY important advantage in this market.  If you can get 100,000 people
to whisper your name that's a big deal.  When people remember it, that's
even bigger.  I spent years in the media industry and I can tell you what's
happened in the first two weeks of Geronimo is very special.  Throwing that
traction away would be stupid.

2.  This project and this server will be a place of public accomodation used
by people from all around the world.  Everyone from members of powerful
corporations and governments to tiny villages in Honduras will be able to
use it to build web applications for FREE.  Naming it in honor of Geronimo
is the equivalent of naming an international airport after John F. Kennedy,
Ronald Reagan or Cesar Vallejo.  It is a mark of our highest respect.

3.  I don't associate his name with jumping out of an airplane or suicide.
Anyone who does might consider spending less time in front of the television
and take up gardening, yoga or base jumping.

4.  Pointy-haired bosses who don't see the business sense in Open Source are
most likely not the future business leaders of the software industry, and
we're not sycophantic toadies who live to serve them.  If they're concerned
about the name of their software because of it rings of a bad war movie or
because it might impact on the appearance of their business, we probably
can't help them anyway.  If they're looking for the Vole, they know where to
find it.

5.  The name is reported to have been democratically chosen by a majority of
the initial project members after 2 weeks of discussion.

Those are all the reasons I need.

So please, take all of your names and save them.  Most of them are
fantastic.  There will be other projects for them and if not, you can always
adopt.  I'm not a committing member of this project and I can't speak
officially but I know a good thing when I see one, so I give Geronimo a big
warm fat +1.

MOAMOATAC.
--
N. Alex Rupp (n_alex_rupp@users.sf.net)

Re: The official name is Apache Geronimo.

[Endre Stølsvik <En...@Stolsvik.com>]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, n. alex rupp wrote:

| My word is by no means official around here, but the name is and should
| remain Apache Geronimo.  I'll tell you five good reasons why.

The project's like a couple of days old, and you're stuck with the name?

If Geronimo is associated with suicide (!), I think your should find
another name.

Endre.

Re: The official name is Apache Geronimo.

[Bruce Snyder <fe...@frii.com>]

This one time, at band camp, Richard Monson-Haefel said:

RM>Please add this to the wiki, maybe under "Why Geronimo?". Its excellent!

*Extremely* well said, Norm. I completely agree, Richard. Your wish
is my command:

    http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheJ2EE/WhyGeronimo

RM>On 8/14/03 6:19 PM, "n. alex rupp" <ru...@umn.edu> wrote:
RM>
RM>> My word is by no means official around here, but the name is and should
RM>> remain Apache Geronimo.  I'll tell you five good reasons why.
RM>>
RM>> 1.  It's got amazing traction in the press. Brand recognition is an
RM>> IMMENSELY important advantage in this market.  If you can get 100,000 people
RM>> to whisper your name that's a big deal.  When people remember it, that's
RM>> even bigger.  I spent years in the media industry and I can tell you what's
RM>> happened in the first two weeks of Geronimo is very special.  Throwing that
RM>> traction away would be stupid.
RM>>
RM>> 2.  This project and this server will be a place of public accomodation used
RM>> by people from all around the world.  Everyone from members of powerful
RM>> corporations and governments to tiny villages in Honduras will be able to
RM>> use it to build web applications for FREE.  Naming it in honor of Geronimo
RM>> is the equivalent of naming an international airport after John F. Kennedy,
RM>> Ronald Reagan or Cesar Vallejo.  It is a mark of our highest respect.
RM>>
RM>> 3.  I don't associate his name with jumping out of an airplane or suicide.
RM>> Anyone who does might consider spending less time in front of the television
RM>> and take up gardening, yoga or base jumping.
RM>>
RM>> 4.  Pointy-haired bosses who don't see the business sense in Open Source are
RM>> most likely not the future business leaders of the software industry, and
RM>> we're not sycophantic toadies who live to serve them.  If they're concerned
RM>> about the name of their software because of it rings of a bad war movie or
RM>> because it might impact on the appearance of their business, we probably
RM>> can't help them anyway.  If they're looking for the Vole, they know where to
RM>> find it.
RM>>
RM>> 5.  The name is reported to have been democratically chosen by a majority of
RM>> the initial project members after 2 weeks of discussion.
RM>>
RM>> Those are all the reasons I need.
RM>>
RM>> So please, take all of your names and save them.  Most of them are
RM>> fantastic.  There will be other projects for them and if not, you can always
RM>> adopt.  I'm not a committing member of this project and I can't speak
RM>> officially but I know a good thing when I see one, so I give Geronimo a big
RM>> warm fat +1.
RM>>
RM>> MOAMOATAC.
RM>> --
RM>> N. Alex Rupp (n_alex_rupp@users.sf.net)
RM>>
RM>>
RM>
RM>--
RM>Richard Monson-Haefel
RM>Co-Founder\Developer, Apache Geronimo
RM>Author of:
RM>  J2EE Web Services (AW 2003)
RM>  Enterprise JavaBeans, 4ed (O'Reilly 2004)
RM>  Java Message Service (O'Reilly 2000)
RM>http://www.Monson-Haefel.com
RM>

Bruce
--
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Apache Geronimo
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html

Re: The official name is Apache Geronimo.

[Richard Monson-Haefel <Ri...@Monson-Haefel.com>]

Please add this to the wiki, maybe under "Why Geronimo?". Its excellent!

On 8/14/03 6:19 PM, "n. alex rupp" <ru...@umn.edu> wrote:

> My word is by no means official around here, but the name is and should
> remain Apache Geronimo.  I'll tell you five good reasons why.
> 
> 1.  It's got amazing traction in the press. Brand recognition is an
> IMMENSELY important advantage in this market.  If you can get 100,000 people
> to whisper your name that's a big deal.  When people remember it, that's
> even bigger.  I spent years in the media industry and I can tell you what's
> happened in the first two weeks of Geronimo is very special.  Throwing that
> traction away would be stupid.
> 
> 2.  This project and this server will be a place of public accomodation used
> by people from all around the world.  Everyone from members of powerful
> corporations and governments to tiny villages in Honduras will be able to
> use it to build web applications for FREE.  Naming it in honor of Geronimo
> is the equivalent of naming an international airport after John F. Kennedy,
> Ronald Reagan or Cesar Vallejo.  It is a mark of our highest respect.
> 
> 3.  I don't associate his name with jumping out of an airplane or suicide.
> Anyone who does might consider spending less time in front of the television
> and take up gardening, yoga or base jumping.
> 
> 4.  Pointy-haired bosses who don't see the business sense in Open Source are
> most likely not the future business leaders of the software industry, and
> we're not sycophantic toadies who live to serve them.  If they're concerned
> about the name of their software because of it rings of a bad war movie or
> because it might impact on the appearance of their business, we probably
> can't help them anyway.  If they're looking for the Vole, they know where to
> find it.
> 
> 5.  The name is reported to have been democratically chosen by a majority of
> the initial project members after 2 weeks of discussion.
> 
> Those are all the reasons I need.
> 
> So please, take all of your names and save them.  Most of them are
> fantastic.  There will be other projects for them and if not, you can always
> adopt.  I'm not a committing member of this project and I can't speak
> officially but I know a good thing when I see one, so I give Geronimo a big
> warm fat +1.
> 
> MOAMOATAC.
> --
> N. Alex Rupp (n_alex_rupp@users.sf.net)
> 
> 

-- 
Richard Monson-Haefel
Co-Founder\Developer, Apache Geronimo
Author of:
  J2EE Web Services (AW 2003)
  Enterprise JavaBeans, 4ed (O'Reilly 2004)
  Java Message Service (O'Reilly 2000)
http://www.Monson-Haefel.com