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Posted to legal-discuss@apache.org by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> on 2017/08/07 15:08:36 UTC
Re: Facebook BSD+patents license and Apache products
I was wondering if it made sense for the ASF to provide some
sort of coordinated and combined effort towards getting FB to
consider changing its license for React affected projects
and podlings, instead of each project itself trying to
handle things...??
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Re: Facebook BSD+patents license and Apache products
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
I think that it would be timely if we can identify and reach the right
person.
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> Yes, I'm aware. That is why I am thinking that something direct
> from the foundation and/or VP Legal about our concerns and the
> impacts on not only ASF projects but also other projects,
> might be timely.
>
>
Re: Facebook BSD+patents license and Apache products
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
Personal touch is often very useful over and above the literal content.
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They already know our position. Not sure what else we can say. ??
>
> On Aug 7, 2017 14:26, "Jim Jagielski" <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I'm aware. That is why I am thinking that something direct
>> from the foundation and/or VP Legal about our concerns and the
>> impacts on not only ASF projects but also other projects,
>> might be timely.
>>
>> > On Aug 7, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > That discussion is well advanced inside FB.
>> >
>> > If we want to take action, it should be almost instantly.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>> > I was wondering if it made sense for the ASF to provide some
>> > sort of coordinated and combined effort towards getting FB to
>> > consider changing its license for React affected projects
>> > and podlings, instead of each project itself trying to
>> > handle things...??
>> >
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Re: Facebook BSD+patents license and Apache products
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
They already know our position. Not sure what else we can say. ??
On Aug 7, 2017 14:26, "Jim Jagielski" <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> Yes, I'm aware. That is why I am thinking that something direct
> from the foundation and/or VP Legal about our concerns and the
> impacts on not only ASF projects but also other projects,
> might be timely.
>
> > On Aug 7, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > That discussion is well advanced inside FB.
> >
> > If we want to take action, it should be almost instantly.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> > I was wondering if it made sense for the ASF to provide some
> > sort of coordinated and combined effort towards getting FB to
> > consider changing its license for React affected projects
> > and podlings, instead of each project itself trying to
> > handle things...??
> >
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Re: Facebook BSD+patents license and Apache products
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Yes, I'm aware. That is why I am thinking that something direct
from the foundation and/or VP Legal about our concerns and the
impacts on not only ASF projects but also other projects,
might be timely.
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> That discussion is well advanced inside FB.
>
> If we want to take action, it should be almost instantly.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> I was wondering if it made sense for the ASF to provide some
> sort of coordinated and combined effort towards getting FB to
> consider changing its license for React affected projects
> and podlings, instead of each project itself trying to
> handle things...??
>
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Re: Facebook BSD+patents license and Apache products
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
I'm almost thinking of this statement as to an explanation as to why the
ASF finds the FBPL to be incompatible with our policies, perhaps on a blog
post or something.
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:55 PM Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That discussion is well advanced inside FB.
>
> If we want to take action, it should be almost instantly.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
>> I was wondering if it made sense for the ASF to provide some
>> sort of coordinated and combined effort towards getting FB to
>> consider changing its license for React affected projects
>> and podlings, instead of each project itself trying to
>> handle things...??
>>
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>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org
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Re: Facebook BSD+patents license and Apache products
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
That discussion is well advanced inside FB.
If we want to take action, it should be almost instantly.
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> I was wondering if it made sense for the ASF to provide some
> sort of coordinated and combined effort towards getting FB to
> consider changing its license for React affected projects
> and podlings, instead of each project itself trying to
> handle things...??
>
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Re: Facebook BSD+patents license and Apache products
Posted by Chris Mattmann <ma...@apache.org>.
Hey Jim what specifically were you thinking here – an open letter or something?
If so, I think it would be best drafted by the Board rather than Legal…let me know…
On 8/7/17, 8:08 AM, "Jim Jagielski" <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
I was wondering if it made sense for the ASF to provide some
sort of coordinated and combined effort towards getting FB to
consider changing its license for React affected projects
and podlings, instead of each project itself trying to
handle things...??
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