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[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
New and improved Italian labels
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Key: OFBIZ-1864
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
Project: OFBiz
Issue Type: Improvement
Components: ALL COMPONENTS
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: Bruno Busco
Priority: Minor
Attachments: italian_labels.patch
Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and some new label definitions .
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Re: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>.
Jacques,
a new patch is in jira.
-Bruno
2008/7/7 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
> Bruno,
>
> I'm not sure what you mean : we can't commit as is. I suppose you mean
> ignore this patch, you will provide a new one right ?
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>
> Adrian,
>> the thai label changed are due to some setting on my editor I did not
>> managed yet to fix. Please ignore it.
>> Thank you,
>> -Bruno
>>
>> 2008/7/7 Adrian Crum (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>:
>>
>>
>>> [
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12611238#action_12611238
>>> ]
>>>
>>> Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-1864:
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Bruno,
>>>
>>> A couple of things I noticed in your patch:
>>>
>>> 1. Thai labels are changed. Was that intentional?
>>> 2. Some of your "improved" labels only change upper case letters to lower
>>> case letters. I believe the "de facto" best practice for field labels is
>>> to
>>> capitalize each word. Sentences would have only the first word
>>> capitalized,
>>> of course.
>>>
>>>
>>> > New and improved Italian labels
>>> > -------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Key: OFBIZ-1864
>>> > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
>>> > Project: OFBiz
>>> > Issue Type: Improvement
>>> > Components: ALL COMPONENTS
>>> > Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>>> > Reporter: Bruno Busco
>>> > Priority: Minor
>>> > Attachments: italian_labels.patch
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels
>>> and
>>> some new label definitions .
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Re: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Bruno,
I'm not sure what you mean : we can't commit as is. I suppose you mean ignore this patch, you will provide a new one right ?
Jacques
From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
> Adrian,
> the thai label changed are due to some setting on my editor I did not
> managed yet to fix. Please ignore it.
> Thank you,
> -Bruno
>
> 2008/7/7 Adrian Crum (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>:
>
>>
>> [
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12611238#action_12611238]
>>
>> Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-1864:
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Bruno,
>>
>> A couple of things I noticed in your patch:
>>
>> 1. Thai labels are changed. Was that intentional?
>> 2. Some of your "improved" labels only change upper case letters to lower
>> case letters. I believe the "de facto" best practice for field labels is to
>> capitalize each word. Sentences would have only the first word capitalized,
>> of course.
>>
>>
>> > New and improved Italian labels
>> > -------------------------------
>> >
>> > Key: OFBIZ-1864
>> > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
>> > Project: OFBiz
>> > Issue Type: Improvement
>> > Components: ALL COMPONENTS
>> > Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>> > Reporter: Bruno Busco
>> > Priority: Minor
>> > Attachments: italian_labels.patch
>> >
>> >
>> > Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and
>> some new label definitions .
>>
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Re: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>.
Adrian,
the thai label changed are due to some setting on my editor I did not
managed yet to fix. Please ignore it.
Thank you,
-Bruno
2008/7/7 Adrian Crum (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>:
>
> [
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12611238#action_12611238]
>
> Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-1864:
> ------------------------------------
>
> Bruno,
>
> A couple of things I noticed in your patch:
>
> 1. Thai labels are changed. Was that intentional?
> 2. Some of your "improved" labels only change upper case letters to lower
> case letters. I believe the "de facto" best practice for field labels is to
> capitalize each word. Sentences would have only the first word capitalized,
> of course.
>
>
> > New and improved Italian labels
> > -------------------------------
> >
> > Key: OFBIZ-1864
> > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
> > Project: OFBiz
> > Issue Type: Improvement
> > Components: ALL COMPONENTS
> > Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> > Reporter: Bruno Busco
> > Priority: Minor
> > Attachments: italian_labels.patch
> >
> >
> > Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and
> some new label definitions .
>
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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by "Adrian Crum (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-1864:
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Jacques,
Thank you for your comments! I can only speak from an English perspective - that's why I requested more comments. When I browse the internet, it is mostly the same for data entry forms - field labels have capitalized words. I haven't browsed in other languages, so I don't know if that changes things.
> New and improved Italian labels
> -------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-1864
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Bruno Busco
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: italian_labels.patch, italian_labels_1.patch
>
>
> Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and some new label definitions .
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[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by "Bruno Busco (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Bruno Busco updated OFBIZ-1864:
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Attachment: italian_labels.patch
> New and improved Italian labels
> -------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-1864
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Bruno Busco
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: italian_labels.patch
>
>
> Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and some new label definitions .
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[jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by "Bruno Busco (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Bruno Busco closed OFBIZ-1864.
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Resolution: Fixed
Fix Version/s: SVN trunk
Jacques,
I think it's better to close the issue.
I will reopen it and attach a new patch whenever the need arise.
Thank you
> New and improved Italian labels
> -------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-1864
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Bruno Busco
> Priority: Minor
> Fix For: SVN trunk
>
> Attachments: italian_labels.patch, italian_labels_1.patch
>
>
> Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and some new label definitions .
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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by "Adrian Crum (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-1864:
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Okay, I just switched my browser to Italian and browsed some Italian sites, and you are both correct.
Proceed.
> New and improved Italian labels
> -------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-1864
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Bruno Busco
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: italian_labels.patch, italian_labels_1.patch
>
>
> Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and some new label definitions .
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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by "Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-1864:
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Adrian, Bruno,
I don't know for Italian, but like Bruno, in French, I prefer to use the standard way of writing: only the 1st word capitalised. UI are for users, they don't know anything about fields, entities, etc. It's just text for them, like in a newspaper... I suppose this habit comes from a leasy way of transposing CamelCase words used in code and such. I can't see any plus in it, but a dangerous way of perverting old rules. Like you see, but worse, also in SMS. In one word : decline (ok I'm a bit old fashioned when it comes to speak about language, no surprise : I'm French ;o). Sometimes, it makes sense though (IBM Marketing services generalised this way of writing) : when you need to introduce a new concept which has no meaning outside of your jargon (like in Java Enterprise Edition for instance).
This is only my opinion :o)
> New and improved Italian labels
> -------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-1864
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Bruno Busco
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: italian_labels.patch, italian_labels_1.patch
>
>
> Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and some new label definitions .
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[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by "Bruno Busco (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Bruno Busco updated OFBIZ-1864:
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Attachment: italian_labels_1.patch
Adrian,
the thai label change was not intentional (a side effect of my editor). I have attached an updated patch talian_labels_1.patch.
About the uppercare/lowercase change I have found that many times in other languages the all lowercase is used and it seems to me preferable above all in the ecommerce, in email messages and if pdf prints to customer.
> New and improved Italian labels
> -------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-1864
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Bruno Busco
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: italian_labels.patch, italian_labels_1.patch
>
>
> Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and some new label definitions .
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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by "Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-1864:
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Bruno,
I have commited your patch in trunk rev. 674749 . Do you want that I keep this issue open ?
> New and improved Italian labels
> -------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-1864
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Bruno Busco
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: italian_labels.patch, italian_labels_1.patch
>
>
> Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and some new label definitions .
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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-1864:
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Adrian,
Have you an idea why it's like that in English sites ?
> New and improved Italian labels
> -------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-1864
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Bruno Busco
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: italian_labels.patch, italian_labels_1.patch
>
>
> Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and some new label definitions .
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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by "Adrian Crum (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-1864:
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Bruno,
I would like to hear Jacopo's thoughts on that.
> New and improved Italian labels
> -------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-1864
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Bruno Busco
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: italian_labels.patch, italian_labels_1.patch
>
>
> Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and some new label definitions .
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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-1864) New and improved Italian labels
Posted by "Adrian Crum (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-1864:
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Bruno,
A couple of things I noticed in your patch:
1. Thai labels are changed. Was that intentional?
2. Some of your "improved" labels only change upper case letters to lower case letters. I believe the "de facto" best practice for field labels is to capitalize each word. Sentences would have only the first word capitalized, of course.
> New and improved Italian labels
> -------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-1864
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1864
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: ALL COMPONENTS
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Bruno Busco
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: italian_labels.patch
>
>
> Please find attached a patch with some improvements to Italian labels and some new label definitions .
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