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[Website] Browser add-ons that block website tracking

[Top posting and new subject as it is becoming a new topic]

It seems we not only have problems with Browsers that treat JavaScript 
different but also with add-ons for blocking website tracking features 
and cookies like Google Analytics.

Any ideas how we could handle this?

Marcus



Am 10/03/2013 04:03 AM, schrieb Ludek Rosendorf:
> Hi Marcus,
>
> here is a Post Script:
> My Firefox and Safari do also have Ghostery installed. But they are not fazed by having the "Google Analytics" blocked!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Ludek

Users first mail:

 > Hi Marcus,
 >
 > Mystery solved - and it isn't really your problem. I do have Ghostery
 > (blocking various tracking cookies, etc.) installed and running. When
 > I pause blocking for your page and reload it, the download button is
 > there alright. So sorry about the false alarm - although you might
 > want to consider how to present the page correctly even to the people
 > who like to block being tracked :-)
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Luděk
>
>
>
> -------
> On 2013/10/03, at 5:46 , Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
>> Am 10/02/2013 06:43 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> [ top posting ]
>>>
>>> Thank yo so much for this information. It will be a big help in our
>>> troubleshooting. In any case, I hope you were able to download Apache
>>> OpenOffice.
>>
>> The information below do not show a problem. The language and platform is recognized and the assembled links are displayed. In the lower table the fields have all data. This indicates that there is no error.
>>
>> At the end the assembled download link is working, too:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg/download
>>
>> @Ludek:
>> Do you see any hint in the browser UI (e.g., an icon in the status bar) for further information like an error message? Or an error console to display logged problems? Maybe here we can go on.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Ludek Rosendorf<r....@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Just testes it again and the problem is still there. That is when using
>>>> Google Chrome. When I use Safari or Firefox the page displays correctly.
>>>>
>>>> Here it is for your diagnosis (this page displays the download button
>>>> okay):
>>>>
>>>> *Browser variables**Values*navigator.appCodeNameMozillanavigator.appName
>>>> Netscapenavigator.appVersion5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8)
>>>> AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/29.0.1547.76 Safari/537.36
>>>> navigator.platformMacIntelnavigator.oscpuundefinednavigator.cpuClass
>>>> undefinednavigator.productGeckonavigator.productSub20030107
>>>> navigator.vendorGoogle Inc.navigator.vendorSubnavigator.languageen-US
>>>> navigator.browserLanguageundefinednavigator.userLanguageundefined
>>>> navigator.systemLanguageundefinednavigator.userAgentMozilla/5.0
>>>> (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko)
>>>> Chrome/29.0.1547.76 Safari/537.36*JavaScript functions/variables**Values*Language
>>>> nameEnglish (US)Language ISO codeen-USLanguage array dataen-US,English
>>>> (US),English (US),y,http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.htmlRelease
>>>> matrix platform position8Release matrix platform array data
>>>> Mac_x86_install,y,163,Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmgUI
>>>> platform nameMac OS 32-bit Intel (DMG)URL platform nameMac_x86_installFile
>>>> nameApache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmgFile extension.dmgFile
>>>> size163Download file link
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg/downloadChecksum
>>>> file link (here for MD5)
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.md5
>>>> hasMirrorLink()truegetLink()
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg/downloadGeneral
>>>> errorfalse
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ludek
>>>> --------
>>>>
>>>> On 2013/10/02, at 2:31 , Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Ludek Rosendorf<r....@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to let you know: as of the time of this writing your download page (
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/) has only links do download
>>>>> extensions, dictionaries and templates, but not the suite itself. Not very
>>>>> useful :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ludek Rosendorf
>>>>> Australia
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hello -- your experience is certainly not what is expected.  :/
>>>>
>>>> Are you still having this problem? We were doing some last minute changes
>>>> earlier.
>>>>
>>>> If you are, can you please use the following URL to report your details
>>>> back to us:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
>>>>
>>>> Just copy and paste results back into a reply.

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Re: [Website] Browser add-ons that block website tracking

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 10/04/2013 01:37 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>> [Top posting and new subject as it is becoming a new topic]
>>
>> It seems we not only have problems with Browsers that treat JavaScript
>> different but also with add-ons for blocking website tracking features and
>> cookies like Google Analytics.
>>
>> Any ideas how we could handle this?
>>
>
> I installed Ghostly.  By default it does not disable Google Analytics,
> so our download page is not impacted.   So I changed the Ghostly
> configuration to disable Google Analytics.  Our download page still
> works properly.
>
> So something else must be going on.  Of course, it is possible for
> bugs to exist in browser extensions.

So, the user has to do somethng on his own to enble more strict blocking 
(I guess).

We should at least keep this in mind when new people report problems 
with displaying the website.

Marcus



>> Am 10/03/2013 04:03 AM, schrieb Ludek Rosendorf:
>>>
>>> Hi Marcus,
>>>
>>> here is a Post Script:
>>> My Firefox and Safari do also have Ghostery installed. But they are not
>>> fazed by having the "Google Analytics" blocked!!!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ludek
>>
>>
>> Users first mail:
>>
>>> Hi Marcus,
>>>
>>> Mystery solved - and it isn't really your problem. I do have Ghostery
>>> (blocking various tracking cookies, etc.) installed and running. When
>>> I pause blocking for your page and reload it, the download button is
>>> there alright. So sorry about the false alarm - although you might
>>> want to consider how to present the page correctly even to the people
>>> who like to block being tracked :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Luděk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------
>>> On 2013/10/03, at 5:46 , Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 10/02/2013 06:43 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>>
>>>>> [ top posting ]
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank yo so much for this information. It will be a big help in our
>>>>> troubleshooting. In any case, I hope you were able to download Apache
>>>>> OpenOffice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The information below do not show a problem. The language and platform is
>>>> recognized and the assembled links are displayed. In the lower table the
>>>> fields have all data. This indicates that there is no error.
>>>>
>>>> At the end the assembled download link is working, too:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg/download
>>>>
>>>> @Ludek:
>>>> Do you see any hint in the browser UI (e.g., an icon in the status bar)
>>>> for further information like an error message? Or an error console to
>>>> display logged problems? Maybe here we can go on.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Ludek Rosendorf<r....@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just testes it again and the problem is still there. That is when using
>>>>>> Google Chrome. When I use Safari or Firefox the page displays
>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here it is for your diagnosis (this page displays the download button
>>>>>> okay):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Browser
>>>>>> variables**Values*navigator.appCodeNameMozillanavigator.appName
>>>>>> Netscapenavigator.appVersion5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8)
>>>>>> AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/29.0.1547.76
>>>>>> Safari/537.36
>>>>>> navigator.platformMacIntelnavigator.oscpuundefinednavigator.cpuClass
>>>>>> undefinednavigator.productGeckonavigator.productSub20030107
>>>>>> navigator.vendorGoogle Inc.navigator.vendorSubnavigator.languageen-US
>>>>>> navigator.browserLanguageundefinednavigator.userLanguageundefined
>>>>>> navigator.systemLanguageundefinednavigator.userAgentMozilla/5.0
>>>>>> (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like
>>>>>> Gecko)
>>>>>> Chrome/29.0.1547.76 Safari/537.36*JavaScript
>>>>>> functions/variables**Values*Language
>>>>>> nameEnglish (US)Language ISO codeen-USLanguage array dataen-US,English
>>>>>> (US),English
>>>>>> (US),y,http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.htmlRelease
>>>>>> matrix platform position8Release matrix platform array data
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mac_x86_install,y,163,Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmgUI
>>>>>> platform nameMac OS 32-bit Intel (DMG)URL platform
>>>>>> nameMac_x86_installFile
>>>>>> nameApache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmgFile
>>>>>> extension.dmgFile
>>>>>> size163Download file link
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg/downloadChecksum
>>>>>> file link (here for MD5)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.md5
>>>>>> hasMirrorLink()truegetLink()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg/downloadGeneral
>>>>>> errorfalse
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ludek
>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2013/10/02, at 2:31 , Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Ludek Rosendorf<r....@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to let you know: as of the time of this writing your download
>>>>>>> page (
>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/) has only links do download
>>>>>>> extensions, dictionaries and templates, but not the suite itself. Not
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>> useful :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Ludek Rosendorf
>>>>>>> Australia
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello -- your experience is certainly not what is expected.  :/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you still having this problem? We were doing some last minute
>>>>>> changes
>>>>>> earlier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are, can you please use the following URL to report your details
>>>>>> back to us:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just copy and paste results back into a reply.

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Re: [Website] Browser add-ons that block website tracking

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> [Top posting and new subject as it is becoming a new topic]
>
> It seems we not only have problems with Browsers that treat JavaScript
> different but also with add-ons for blocking website tracking features and
> cookies like Google Analytics.
>
> Any ideas how we could handle this?
>

I installed Ghostly.  By default it does not disable Google Analytics,
so our download page is not impacted.   So I changed the Ghostly
configuration to disable Google Analytics.  Our download page still
works properly.

So something else must be going on.  Of course, it is possible for
bugs to exist in browser extensions.

Regards,

-Rob

> Marcus
>
>
>
> Am 10/03/2013 04:03 AM, schrieb Ludek Rosendorf:
>>
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>> here is a Post Script:
>> My Firefox and Safari do also have Ghostery installed. But they are not
>> fazed by having the "Google Analytics" blocked!!!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ludek
>
>
> Users first mail:
>
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>> Mystery solved - and it isn't really your problem. I do have Ghostery
>> (blocking various tracking cookies, etc.) installed and running. When
>> I pause blocking for your page and reload it, the download button is
>> there alright. So sorry about the false alarm - although you might
>> want to consider how to present the page correctly even to the people
>> who like to block being tracked :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Luděk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------
>> On 2013/10/03, at 5:46 , Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>>> Am 10/02/2013 06:43 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>
>>>> [ top posting ]
>>>>
>>>> Thank yo so much for this information. It will be a big help in our
>>>> troubleshooting. In any case, I hope you were able to download Apache
>>>> OpenOffice.
>>>
>>>
>>> The information below do not show a problem. The language and platform is
>>> recognized and the assembled links are displayed. In the lower table the
>>> fields have all data. This indicates that there is no error.
>>>
>>> At the end the assembled download link is working, too:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg/download
>>>
>>> @Ludek:
>>> Do you see any hint in the browser UI (e.g., an icon in the status bar)
>>> for further information like an error message? Or an error console to
>>> display logged problems? Maybe here we can go on.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Ludek Rosendorf<r....@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just testes it again and the problem is still there. That is when using
>>>>> Google Chrome. When I use Safari or Firefox the page displays
>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here it is for your diagnosis (this page displays the download button
>>>>> okay):
>>>>>
>>>>> *Browser
>>>>> variables**Values*navigator.appCodeNameMozillanavigator.appName
>>>>> Netscapenavigator.appVersion5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8)
>>>>> AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/29.0.1547.76
>>>>> Safari/537.36
>>>>> navigator.platformMacIntelnavigator.oscpuundefinednavigator.cpuClass
>>>>> undefinednavigator.productGeckonavigator.productSub20030107
>>>>> navigator.vendorGoogle Inc.navigator.vendorSubnavigator.languageen-US
>>>>> navigator.browserLanguageundefinednavigator.userLanguageundefined
>>>>> navigator.systemLanguageundefinednavigator.userAgentMozilla/5.0
>>>>> (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like
>>>>> Gecko)
>>>>> Chrome/29.0.1547.76 Safari/537.36*JavaScript
>>>>> functions/variables**Values*Language
>>>>> nameEnglish (US)Language ISO codeen-USLanguage array dataen-US,English
>>>>> (US),English
>>>>> (US),y,http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.htmlRelease
>>>>> matrix platform position8Release matrix platform array data
>>>>>
>>>>> Mac_x86_install,y,163,Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmgUI
>>>>> platform nameMac OS 32-bit Intel (DMG)URL platform
>>>>> nameMac_x86_installFile
>>>>> nameApache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmgFile
>>>>> extension.dmgFile
>>>>> size163Download file link
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg/downloadChecksum
>>>>> file link (here for MD5)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.md5
>>>>> hasMirrorLink()truegetLink()
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg/downloadGeneral
>>>>> errorfalse
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ludek
>>>>> --------
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2013/10/02, at 2:31 , Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Ludek Rosendorf<r....@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to let you know: as of the time of this writing your download
>>>>>> page (
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/) has only links do download
>>>>>> extensions, dictionaries and templates, but not the suite itself. Not
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> useful :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ludek Rosendorf
>>>>>> Australia
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hello -- your experience is certainly not what is expected.  :/
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you still having this problem? We were doing some last minute
>>>>> changes
>>>>> earlier.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are, can you please use the following URL to report your details
>>>>> back to us:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Just copy and paste results back into a reply.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>

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