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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Daniel Sahlberg <da...@gmail.com> on 2020/07/07 21:38:39 UTC
[PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Hi,
I've looked through the website and I propose a few administrative changes.
It's my first patch so fingers crossed I have not messed up!
In the first half of the email I have detailed a few things I'm not sure
how to handle, in the second half of the e-mail I have a formal log
message. Sorry if this makes it harder to read but I tried to make it
easier for whoever might commit this to just copy-n-paste the log message.
docs/community-guide/releasing.html
I'm not sure if it's possible to rediscover exactly which e-mail was
referenced but the following e-mail seems to fit the description quite
well:
https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/subversion-announce/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTi%3DhFhXwpyGKp7XOsL4j39tssD363A%40mail.gmail.com%3E
reporting-issues.html
Was Issuezilla ever archived or should that section be eliminated? I have
_not_ included this in the patch, just wanted to point out.
docs/community-guide/l10n.html
The page mentions localization mailing lists. Is there a new home for them
away from tigris.org? _Not_ included in the patch.
docs/community-guide/roles.html
I realise I'm inconsistent in the links to mailing lists by linking to
svn.haxx.se here however the mail does not exist in mail-archives.a.o. I
saw a thread from April this year suggesting to migrate also the older
archives to apache servers but until this happens there will have to links
to both sites. Or do you prefer to link everything to svn.haxx.se?
And here is the log message:
[[[
Remove references to tigris.org from website
* docs/community-guide/general.html
Participating in the community: Changed link to issue tracker to Jira
* docs/community-guide/releasing.html
Release numbering, Alpha and Beta: Replaced broken link to tigris.org
* docs/community-guide/roles.part.html
How partial commit access is granted: Replaced broken link to tigris.org
]]]
Kind regards
Daniel
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@red-bean.com>.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:37 AM Daniel Sahlberg <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> In the original email, I made note of two more pages that I didn't include
> in the patch. Do you have any insight into these or do we need to wait for
> someone else to step in?
>
Sorry, I have nothing to offer on those questions.
>
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Yasuhito FUTATSUKI wrote on Fri, 17 Jul 2020 22:03 +0900:
> On 2020/07/16 5:50, Nathan Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 1:55 PM Daniel Sahlberg
> > <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I have updated the text according to your suggestion except that I don't think we need to keep the tigris.org site reference at all so I removed the text in parentheses. Thanks for finding the new site, my google-fu wasn't enough.
> >
> > Thanks! Committed in r1879904.
>
> Then I updated my patch. I hope someone can review it....
>
> Cheers,
Yasuhito FUTATSUKI wrote on Fri, 17 Jul 2020 22:03 +0900:
> +++ faq.ja.html (working copy)
> @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@
>
> <div style="font-size: 70%">
> <pre>
> -Based on r32490
> +Based on r32490 (partially updated about cvs2svn)
Increase the revision number by 840074; see ^/subversion/README (sic).
> @@ -514,31 +514,25 @@
Sorry, I can't review the remainder; 私は日本語が話せません. I don't
know any of the other active committers to speak Japanese either.
However, the original author of faq.ja.html is in COMMITTERS, so we
might reach out:
.
nmiyo MIYOKAWA, Nobuyoshi <n-...@tempus.org> (www: ja)
The only other Japanese-language translator in COMMITTERS has no
contact information there.
Alternatively, finding a place where English-to-Japanese open source
translators meet (e.g., an IRC channel) and asking for someone to cast
an eye over the diff is also an option. We've done it before, when we
received a patch to a .po file whose maintainer had gone AWOL.
Cheers,
Daniel
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Yasuhito FUTATSUKI <fu...@yf.bsdclub.org>.
I'm very sorry for leaving it for a long time.
On 2020/07/20 5:01, Yasuhito FUTATSUKI wrote:
> On 2020/07/20 4:22, Nathan Hartman wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 9:05 AM Yasuhito FUTATSUKI
>> <fu...@yf.bsdclub.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2020/07/16 5:50, Nathan Hartman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 1:55 PM Daniel Sahlberg
>>>> <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have updated the text according to your suggestion except that I don't think we need to keep the tigris.org site reference at all so I removed the text in parentheses. Thanks for finding the new site, my google-fu wasn't enough.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! Committed in r1879904.
>>>
>>> Then I updated my patch. I hope someone can review it....
>>
>> Hello Yasuhito,
>>
>> I am fine with trusting your translation of the text. I'm sure it's
>> better than the outdated translation we have now. Unless you feel
>> strongly that you need a review, I think you should go ahead and
>> commit your changes. (Just increase the revision number r32490 by
>> adding 840074 => r872564 as pointed out by Daniel.)
>
> I tried to contact to nori and nmiyo in COMMITTERS via twitter,
> and nori answered me that he will review it. So please wait for a
> while.
I waited enough, but he didn't farther answer. So I commited it in
r1881625.
Cheers,
--
Yasuhito FUTATSUKI <fu...@yf.bsclub.org>
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Yasuhito FUTATSUKI <fu...@yf.bsdclub.org>.
On 2020/07/20 4:22, Nathan Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 9:05 AM Yasuhito FUTATSUKI
> <fu...@yf.bsdclub.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 2020/07/16 5:50, Nathan Hartman wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 1:55 PM Daniel Sahlberg
>>> <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have updated the text according to your suggestion except that I don't think we need to keep the tigris.org site reference at all so I removed the text in parentheses. Thanks for finding the new site, my google-fu wasn't enough.
>>>
>>> Thanks! Committed in r1879904.
>>
>> Then I updated my patch. I hope someone can review it....
>
> Hello Yasuhito,
>
> I am fine with trusting your translation of the text. I'm sure it's
> better than the outdated translation we have now. Unless you feel
> strongly that you need a review, I think you should go ahead and
> commit your changes. (Just increase the revision number r32490 by
> adding 840074 => r872564 as pointed out by Daniel.)
I tried to contact to nori and nmiyo in COMMITTERS via twitter,
and nori answered me that he will review it. So please wait for a
while.
Cheers,
--
Yasuhito FUTATSUKI <fu...@yf.bsclub.org>
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Nathan Hartman <ha...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 9:05 AM Yasuhito FUTATSUKI
<fu...@yf.bsdclub.org> wrote:
>
> On 2020/07/16 5:50, Nathan Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 1:55 PM Daniel Sahlberg
> > <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I have updated the text according to your suggestion except that I don't think we need to keep the tigris.org site reference at all so I removed the text in parentheses. Thanks for finding the new site, my google-fu wasn't enough.
> >
> > Thanks! Committed in r1879904.
>
> Then I updated my patch. I hope someone can review it....
Hello Yasuhito,
I am fine with trusting your translation of the text. I'm sure it's
better than the outdated translation we have now. Unless you feel
strongly that you need a review, I think you should go ahead and
commit your changes. (Just increase the revision number r32490 by
adding 840074 => r872564 as pointed out by Daniel.)
Cheers,
Nathan
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Yasuhito FUTATSUKI <fu...@yf.bsdclub.org>.
On 2020/07/16 5:50, Nathan Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 1:55 PM Daniel Sahlberg
> <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have updated the text according to your suggestion except that I don't think we need to keep the tigris.org site reference at all so I removed the text in parentheses. Thanks for finding the new site, my google-fu wasn't enough.
>
> Thanks! Committed in r1879904.
Then I updated my patch. I hope someone can review it....
Cheers,
--
Yasuhito FUTATSUKI <fu...@yf.bsclub.org>
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Nathan Hartman <ha...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 1:55 PM Daniel Sahlberg
<da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have updated the text according to your suggestion except that I don't think we need to keep the tigris.org site reference at all so I removed the text in parentheses. Thanks for finding the new site, my google-fu wasn't enough.
Thanks! Committed in r1879904.
Cheers,
Nathan
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Daniel Sahlberg <da...@gmail.com>.
Den ons 15 juli 2020 kl 16:29 skrev Nathan Hartman <hartman.nathan@gmail.com
>:
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 5:27 PM Daniel Sahlberg
> <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback! I have removed these from both
> reporting-issues.html and the community guide.
>
> Thanks for your recent patches!
>
> evicttigris_2.patch.txt looks good to me, except as Stefan points out,
> cvs2svn is now at https://github.com/mhagger/cvs2svn, so I propose the
> following text for that FAQ section:
>
> [[[
>
> <div class="h3" id="cvs2svn">
> <h3>How do I convert an existing CVS repository
> into a Subversion repository?
> <a class="sectionlink" href="#cvs2svn"
> title="Link to this section">¶</a>
> </h3>
>
> <p>The cvs2svn conversion tool seems to be what most people use. The
> sources are hosted at <a href="https://github.com/mhagger/cvs2svn"
> >https://github.com/mhagger/cvs2svn</a>. (Previously, cvs2svn was
> hosted at http://cvs2svn.tigris.org/, however that site was shut down
> on 1 July, 2020.) If you are running a Linux or BSD-based system, your
> distribution might have a cvs2svn package.</p>
>
> <p>If cvs2svn doesn't meet your needs, you might try refinecvs written
> by Lev Serebryakov at <a href="http://lev.serebryakov.spb.ru/refinecvs/"
> >http://lev.serebryakov.spb.ru/refinecvs/</a>.</p>
> </div>
>
> ]]]
>
> If there are no objections I propose to go ahead and commit
> evicttigris_2.patch.txt and the above changes.
>
I have updated the text according to your suggestion except that I don't
think we need to keep the tigris.org site reference at all so I removed the
text in parentheses. Thanks for finding the new site, my google-fu wasn't
enough.
You should be able to reuse the old commit message except changing the part
about faq.html to:
[[[
* faq.html
Updated cvs2svn link and removed dead link.
]]]
Kind regards
Daniel
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Yasuhito FUTATSUKI <fu...@yf.bsdclub.org>.
On 2020/07/15 23:29, Nathan Hartman wrote:
> If there are no objections I propose to go ahead and commit
> evicttigris_2.patch.txt and the above changes.
>
> Unfortunately that would make Yasuhito's translation out-of-date. :-(
I'll update my patch when the original text is fixed.
Cheers,
--
Yasuhito FUTATSUKI <fu...@yf.bsclub.org>
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Nathan Hartman <ha...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 5:27 PM Daniel Sahlberg
<da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your feedback! I have removed these from both reporting-issues.html and the community guide.
Thanks for your recent patches!
evicttigris_2.patch.txt looks good to me, except as Stefan points out,
cvs2svn is now at https://github.com/mhagger/cvs2svn, so I propose the
following text for that FAQ section:
[[[
<div class="h3" id="cvs2svn">
<h3>How do I convert an existing CVS repository
into a Subversion repository?
<a class="sectionlink" href="#cvs2svn"
title="Link to this section">¶</a>
</h3>
<p>The cvs2svn conversion tool seems to be what most people use. The
sources are hosted at <a href="https://github.com/mhagger/cvs2svn"
>https://github.com/mhagger/cvs2svn</a>. (Previously, cvs2svn was
hosted at http://cvs2svn.tigris.org/, however that site was shut down
on 1 July, 2020.) If you are running a Linux or BSD-based system, your
distribution might have a cvs2svn package.</p>
<p>If cvs2svn doesn't meet your needs, you might try refinecvs written
by Lev Serebryakov at <a href="http://lev.serebryakov.spb.ru/refinecvs/"
>http://lev.serebryakov.spb.ru/refinecvs/</a>.</p>
</div>
]]]
If there are no objections I propose to go ahead and commit
evicttigris_2.patch.txt and the above changes.
Unfortunately that would make Yasuhito's translation out-of-date. :-(
Nathan
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Stefan Sperling <st...@elego.de>.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 03:20:23PM +0900, Yasuhito FUTATSUKI wrote:
> (An echo reply for the broadcast echo request...)
>
> On 2020/07/10 6:27, Daniel Sahlberg wrote:
> > Regarding the link to cvs2svn I tried to find if it was rehosted somewhere
> > else but couldn't find someone who actually had the code. We _could_
> > probably get the code from Debian (or FreeBSD) and host it ourselves but I
> > don't know if that is worth the effort. For now I'm pointing at the
> > Linux/BSD distributions.
>
> It seems cvs2svn will be removed from FreeBSD ports on 2020-09-15.
It seems cvs2svn has moved here: https://github.com/mhagger/cvs2svn
The most recent release is cvs2svn 2.5.0 (26 November 2017).
It looks like the release archives were not carried over to the github page.
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Yasuhito FUTATSUKI <fu...@yf.bsdclub.org>.
(An echo reply for the broadcast echo request...)
On 2020/07/10 6:27, Daniel Sahlberg wrote:
> Thanks for your feedback! I have removed these from both
> reporting-issues.html and the community guide.
>
> Since I had some time, I also looked at the rest of the website.
>
> Regarding the link to cvs2svn I tried to find if it was rehosted somewhere
> else but couldn't find someone who actually had the code. We _could_
> probably get the code from Debian (or FreeBSD) and host it ourselves but I
> don't know if that is worth the effort. For now I'm pointing at the
> Linux/BSD distributions.
It seems cvs2svn will be removed from FreeBSD ports on 2020-09-15.
> * Translations (Japanese and Chinese) of faq.html. This seems to be related
> to the cvs2svn but I dare not to touch it. I hope someone else in dev@
> master these languages.
I looked at faq.ja.html and make a patch for this part. Although
faq.ja.html itself based on very old revision ... over a decade,
I didn't touch anything else.
Cheers,
--
Yasuhito FUTATSUKI <fu...@yf.bsclub.org>
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
dev@, Ping?
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Daniel Sahlberg <da...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for your feedback! I have removed these from both
reporting-issues.html and the community guide.
Since I had some time, I also looked at the rest of the website.
Regarding the link to cvs2svn I tried to find if it was rehosted somewhere
else but couldn't find someone who actually had the code. We _could_
probably get the code from Debian (or FreeBSD) and host it ourselves but I
don't know if that is worth the effort. For now I'm pointing at the
Linux/BSD distributions.
As far as I can see, the only remaining links to tirgis.org are in the
following pages:
* Old release notes. I'm reluctant to change history. Possibly we could add
a note that the link is now defunct (like I did in the news page).
* Old CVE advisories (.txt files). I believe these to be historic evidence
which should not be changed at all. (And it affects version 1.4 and 1.6).
* Translations (Japanese and Chinese) of faq.html. This seems to be related
to the cvs2svn but I dare not to touch it. I hope someone else in dev@
master these languages.
[[[
Remove even more references of tigris.org from the website.
* docs/community-guide/l10n.html
Removed reference to old l10n-??@subversion.tigris.org mailing lists.
Referred translation discussions to dev@.
* faq.html
Remove dead cvs2svn links.
* mailing-lists.html
Adjusted a comment to contain the right address for dev@
Remove reference to Tigris Discussion page.
* news.html
Make a note that subversion.tigris.org is no longer available but keep
old
link for historic reference.
* reporting-issues.html
Remove the section Issuezilla.
]]]
Kind regards
Daniel Sahlberg
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Johan Corveleyn <jc...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 3:37 PM Daniel Sahlberg
<da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In the original email, I made note of two more pages that I didn't include in the patch. Do you have any insight into these or do we need to wait for someone else to step in?
>
> > reporting-issues.html
> > Was Issuezilla ever archived or should that section be eliminated? I have _not_ included this in the patch, just wanted to point out.
I think that section should just be eliminated. The issuezilla -> JIRA
migration was successful AFAICR (and I don't think we have an archive
of the old Issuezilla somewhere available). We should just drop that
old section.
> > docs/community-guide/l10n.html
> > The page mentions localization mailing lists. Is there a new home for them away from tigris.org? _Not_ included in the patch.
Hmm, I'm afraid I don't have any knowledge of how translations are
organised (if any) these days. I don't know of any language-specific
mailinglists (or even a general translation(-tools) oriented
mailinglist), but of course that doesn't mean there aren't any. Maybe
someone else here knows?
Those language-specifc tigris mailinglists mentioned in the community
guide (l10n-??@subversion.tigris.org) surely don't work / exist
anymore.
--
Johan
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Daniel Sahlberg <da...@gmail.com>.
Den ons 8 juli 2020 kl 15:28 skrev C. Michael Pilato <cmpilato@red-bean.com
>:
> Committed revision 1879654.
>
> Thanks!
>
(y)
In the original email, I made note of two more pages that I didn't include
in the patch. Do you have any insight into these or do we need to wait for
someone else to step in?
> reporting-issues.html
> Was Issuezilla ever archived or should that section be eliminated? I have
_not_ included this in the patch, just wanted to point out.
>
> docs/community-guide/l10n.html
> The page mentions localization mailing lists. Is there a new home for
them away from tigris.org? _Not_ included in the patch.
Kind regards
Daniel
>
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@red-bean.com>.
Sending docs/community-guide/general.part.html
Sending docs/community-guide/releasing.part.html
Sending docs/community-guide/roles.part.html
Transmitting file data ...done
Committing transaction...
Committed revision 1879654.
Thanks!
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:22 AM Daniel Sahlberg <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Den ons 8 juli 2020 kl 14:34 skrev C. Michael Pilato <
> cmpilato@red-bean.com>:
>
>> Thanks, Daniel. Your patch submission is fine, though I suspect that if
>> in the future you name your patch file such that it ends with ".txt",
>> (evicttigris.patch.txt) more email clients will allow the patch content to
>> be directly visible and reply-able. As it was, I was forced to "Download"
>> the patch and paste its content back into this reply mail in order to
>> review it contextually.
>>
> Noted, thanks!
>
>
>> Index: publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html
>>> ===================================================================
>>> --- publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html (revision 1879610)
>>> +++ publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html (arbetskopia)
>>> @@ -71,8 +71,8 @@ to contribute, then look at:</p>
>>>
>>> <ul>
>>> <li><p>The bugs/issues database
>>> - <a href="http://subversion.tigris.org/issue-tracker.html"
>>> - >http://subversion.tigris.org/issue-tracker.html
>>> </a></p></li>
>>> + <a href="
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SVN-4862?jql=project%20%3D%20SVN"
>>> + >https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project =
>>> SVN</a></p></li>
>>> </ul>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You are linking here to a different URL than is displayed in the link
>> text. Also, the spaces around the = sign in the link text will allow that
>> URL to wrap. Maybe use the URL "
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SVN/issues" in both places
>> instead?
>>
>
> Oops, my bad. I copied the link and text from reporting-issues.html (but
> missed my browser redirect) - don't know if there is a reason to prefer the
> version with ?jql=project = SVN although I think your link looks cleaner.
> I've updated the patch.
>
> Kind regards
> Daniel
>
>>
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by Daniel Sahlberg <da...@gmail.com>.
Den ons 8 juli 2020 kl 14:34 skrev C. Michael Pilato <cmpilato@red-bean.com
>:
> Thanks, Daniel. Your patch submission is fine, though I suspect that if
> in the future you name your patch file such that it ends with ".txt",
> (evicttigris.patch.txt) more email clients will allow the patch content to
> be directly visible and reply-able. As it was, I was forced to "Download"
> the patch and paste its content back into this reply mail in order to
> review it contextually.
>
Noted, thanks!
> Index: publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html
>> ===================================================================
>> --- publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html (revision 1879610)
>> +++ publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html (arbetskopia)
>> @@ -71,8 +71,8 @@ to contribute, then look at:</p>
>>
>> <ul>
>> <li><p>The bugs/issues database
>> - <a href="http://subversion.tigris.org/issue-tracker.html"
>> - >http://subversion.tigris.org/issue-tracker.html
>> </a></p></li>
>> + <a href="
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SVN-4862?jql=project%20%3D%20SVN"
>> + >https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project =
>> SVN</a></p></li>
>> </ul>
>>
>>
>
> You are linking here to a different URL than is displayed in the link
> text. Also, the spaces around the = sign in the link text will allow that
> URL to wrap. Maybe use the URL "
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SVN/issues" in both places
> instead?
>
Oops, my bad. I copied the link and text from reporting-issues.html (but
missed my browser redirect) - don't know if there is a reason to prefer the
version with ?jql=project = SVN although I think your link looks cleaner.
I've updated the patch.
Kind regards
Daniel
>
Re: [PATCH] Remove references to tigris.org from website
Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@red-bean.com>.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:38 PM Daniel Sahlberg <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've looked through the website and I propose a few administrative
> changes. It's my first patch so fingers crossed I have not messed up!
>
Thanks, Daniel. Your patch submission is fine, though I suspect that if in
the future you name your patch file such that it ends with ".txt",
(evicttigris.patch.txt) more email clients will allow the patch content to
be directly visible and reply-able. As it was, I was forced to "Download"
the patch and paste its content back into this reply mail in order to
review it contextually.
Index: publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html
> ===================================================================
> --- publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html (revision 1879610)
> +++ publish/docs/community-guide/general.part.html (arbetskopia)
> @@ -71,8 +71,8 @@ to contribute, then look at:</p>
>
> <ul>
> <li><p>The bugs/issues database
> - <a href="http://subversion.tigris.org/issue-tracker.html"
> - >http://subversion.tigris.org/issue-tracker.html
> </a></p></li>
> + <a href="
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SVN-4862?jql=project%20%3D%20SVN"
> + >https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project =
> SVN</a></p></li>
> </ul>
>
>
You are linking here to a different URL than is displayed in the link
text. Also, the spaces around the = sign in the link text will allow that
URL to wrap. Maybe use the URL "
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SVN/issues" in both places instead?
> <p>To submit code, simply send your patches to
> Index: publish/docs/community-guide/releasing.part.html
> ===================================================================
> --- publish/docs/community-guide/releasing.part.html (revision 1879610)
> +++ publish/docs/community-guide/releasing.part.html (arbetskopia)
> @@ -156,7 +156,7 @@ alpha or beta release is announced.</p>
>
> <p>When the alpha or beta is publicly announced, distribution packagers
> should be firmly warned off packaging it. See <a
> -href="
> http://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announce&msgNo=264"
> +href="
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/subversion-announce/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTi%3DhFhXwpyGKp7XOsL4j39tssD363A%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> "
> >this mail from Hyrum K. Wright</a> for a good model.</p>
>
> </div> <!-- alphas-betas -->
>
I like your choice of a new example email here.
> Index: publish/docs/community-guide/roles.part.html
> ===================================================================
> --- publish/docs/community-guide/roles.part.html (revision 1879610)
> +++ publish/docs/community-guide/roles.part.html (arbetskopia)
> @@ -114,8 +114,8 @@ href="<!--#echo var="GUIDE_GENERAL_PAGE" -->#light
> >section on lightweight branches</a>, and this mail:</p>
>
> <pre>
> - <a href="
> http://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=132746"
> ->http://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=132746
> </a>
> + <a href="https://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2007-11/0848.shtml"
> +>https://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2007-11/0848.shtml</a>
> From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
> To: dev@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: branch liberalization (was: Elego tree conflicts work)
And this is good, too.
>