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Posted to dev@servicemix.apache.org by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> on 2017/09/04 15:24:15 UTC
Nabble forums
Last week, I spent a few hours removing a lot of spams from the nabble
forums.
In order to not be spammed anymore, I disabled the creation and reply to
the forums, thereby acting as a read-only archive of the mailing lists.
I'm getting requests from users to be able to post.
I think we can:
* leave it as is and force users to use the mailing lists
* create a team and put users in that team so that they can write in the
forums
* revert and allow anyone to write (which will bring spam again)
What you guys want to do ?
If you want the second case, I'd like some PMC members to step in and
moderate the forums (not sure how, maybe force them to register to the
mailing list first ?)
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
Re: Nabble forums
Posted by Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com>.
The only case I think nabble is useful and can do the mailing list can’t is send through the attachment(like a testcase), seems our mailing list filter won’t let the attachment through, but we can always use jira ticket to attach testcase if we need it.
－－－－－－－－－－－－－
Freeman(Yue) Fang
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> On Sep 5, 2017, at 1:27 AM, Sobkowiak Krzysztof <kr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Guillaume
>
> Thanks for removing the spam from Nabble. I didn't know it is possible. I had to moderate/reject last 2 months a huge amount of spam sent to the mailing lists.
> I think, we should not let write anyone without registration. I think, we should moderate the forum, but actually have no idea how we should do this. I don't
> know Nabble too good. If we have a method I can be one of the moderators.
>
> Kindly regards
> Krzysztof
>
> On 04.09.2017 17:24, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>> Last week, I spent a few hours removing a lot of spams from the nabble
>> forums.
>> In order to not be spammed anymore, I disabled the creation and reply to
>> the forums, thereby acting as a read-only archive of the mailing lists.
>> I'm getting requests from users to be able to post.
>>
>> I think we can:
>> * leave it as is and force users to use the mailing lists
>> * create a team and put users in that team so that they can write in the
>> forums
>> * revert and allow anyone to write (which will bring spam again)
>>
>> What you guys want to do ?
>> If you want the second case, I'd like some PMC members to step in and
>> moderate the forums (not sure how, maybe force them to register to the
>> mailing list first ?)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Guillaume Nodet
>>
>
> --
> Krzysztof Sobkowiak
>
> JEE & OSS Architect, Integration Architect
> Apache Software Foundation Member (http://apache.org/)
> Apache ServiceMix Committer & PMC Member (http://servicemix.apache.org/)
> Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC (http://www.capgeminisoftware.pl/)
Re: Nabble forums
Posted by Sobkowiak Krzysztof <kr...@gmail.com>.
Hi Guillaume
Thanks for removing the spam from Nabble. I didn't know it is possible. I had to moderate/reject last 2 months a huge amount of spam sent to the mailing lists.
I think, we should not let write anyone without registration. I think, we should moderate the forum, but actually have no idea how we should do this. I don't
know Nabble too good. If we have a method I can be one of the moderators.
Kindly regards
Krzysztof
On 04.09.2017 17:24, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> Last week, I spent a few hours removing a lot of spams from the nabble
> forums.
> In order to not be spammed anymore, I disabled the creation and reply to
> the forums, thereby acting as a read-only archive of the mailing lists.
> I'm getting requests from users to be able to post.
>
> I think we can:
> * leave it as is and force users to use the mailing lists
> * create a team and put users in that team so that they can write in the
> forums
> * revert and allow anyone to write (which will bring spam again)
>
> What you guys want to do ?
> If you want the second case, I'd like some PMC members to step in and
> moderate the forums (not sure how, maybe force them to register to the
> mailing list first ?)
>
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
>
--
Krzysztof Sobkowiak
JEE & OSS Architect, Integration Architect
Apache Software Foundation Member (http://apache.org/)
Apache ServiceMix Committer & PMC Member (http://servicemix.apache.org/)
Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC (http://www.capgeminisoftware.pl/)
Re: Nabble forums
Posted by Pontus Ullgren <ul...@gmail.com>.
Sorry my bad. Must have had a old version cached somehow.
The link is indeed no longer there.
// Pontus
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 at 22:14 Pontus Ullgren <ul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually there is a link to this page from the Camle website in the menu
> on the right hand side.
>
> In the section Community there is a link "Discussion Forums". That page
> still mentions and links to Nabble.
>
> // Pontus
>
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 at 10:04 Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > I think that's a good move, however it hasn't been followed through yet:
>> > http://camel.apache.org/discussion-forums.html
>> >
>>
>> Ah that is the old page, there is no link to that from the Camel
>> website, eg the front page, on that menu on the right hand side.
>>
>> We can try to delete that page in wiki, but AFAIK its not deleted as
>> .html file.
>> But an alternative is to edit that wiki page and remove all that nabble
>> stuff.
>>
>>
>> > 2017-09-06 9:46 GMT+02:00 Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >> Hi Guillaume
>> >>
>> >> The PMC have discussed this a while back and we are dropping Nabble,
>> >> eg your first bullet.
>> >> We have removed any links or mentions of Nabble on the Camel website.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for making it a read-only. Also we have alot of stuff to do
>> >> already so I dont think we want/need more to administrate etc.
>> >>
>> >> And today there are better alternatives than nabble, either the real
>> >> mailing list, or using stackoverflow or gitter etc.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >> > Last week, I spent a few hours removing a lot of spams from the
>> nabble
>> >> > forums.
>> >> > In order to not be spammed anymore, I disabled the creation and
>> reply to
>> >> > the forums, thereby acting as a read-only archive of the mailing
>> lists.
>> >> > I'm getting requests from users to be able to post.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think we can:
>> >> > * leave it as is and force users to use the mailing lists
>> >> > * create a team and put users in that team so that they can write
>> in
>> >> the
>> >> > forums (i think this has to be done manually after a request from the
>> >> user)
>> >> > * revert and allow anyone to write (which will bring spam again)
>> >> >
>> >> > What you guys want to do ?
>> >> > In all cases, it would be nice if some additional PMC members could
>> step
>> >> in
>> >> > to administrate the nabble forums.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> > Guillaume Nodet
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Claus Ibsen
>> >> -----------------
>> >> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>> >> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > ------------------------
>> > Guillaume Nodet
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>>
>
Re: Nabble forums
Posted by Pontus Ullgren <ul...@gmail.com>.
Actually there is a link to this page from the Camle website in the menu on
the right hand side.
In the section Community there is a link "Discussion Forums". That page
still mentions and links to Nabble.
// Pontus
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 at 10:04 Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org> wrote:
> > I think that's a good move, however it hasn't been followed through yet:
> > http://camel.apache.org/discussion-forums.html
> >
>
> Ah that is the old page, there is no link to that from the Camel
> website, eg the front page, on that menu on the right hand side.
>
> We can try to delete that page in wiki, but AFAIK its not deleted as .html
> file.
> But an alternative is to edit that wiki page and remove all that nabble
> stuff.
>
>
> > 2017-09-06 9:46 GMT+02:00 Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Hi Guillaume
> >>
> >> The PMC have discussed this a while back and we are dropping Nabble,
> >> eg your first bullet.
> >> We have removed any links or mentions of Nabble on the Camel website.
> >>
> >> Thanks for making it a read-only. Also we have alot of stuff to do
> >> already so I dont think we want/need more to administrate etc.
> >>
> >> And today there are better alternatives than nabble, either the real
> >> mailing list, or using stackoverflow or gitter etc.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> > Last week, I spent a few hours removing a lot of spams from the nabble
> >> > forums.
> >> > In order to not be spammed anymore, I disabled the creation and reply
> to
> >> > the forums, thereby acting as a read-only archive of the mailing
> lists.
> >> > I'm getting requests from users to be able to post.
> >> >
> >> > I think we can:
> >> > * leave it as is and force users to use the mailing lists
> >> > * create a team and put users in that team so that they can write in
> >> the
> >> > forums (i think this has to be done manually after a request from the
> >> user)
> >> > * revert and allow anyone to write (which will bring spam again)
> >> >
> >> > What you guys want to do ?
> >> > In all cases, it would be nice if some additional PMC members could
> step
> >> in
> >> > to administrate the nabble forums.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Guillaume Nodet
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Claus Ibsen
> >> -----------------
> >> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> >> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------
> > Guillaume Nodet
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>
Re: Nabble forums
Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think that's a good move, however it hasn't been followed through yet:
> http://camel.apache.org/discussion-forums.html
>
Ah that is the old page, there is no link to that from the Camel
website, eg the front page, on that menu on the right hand side.
We can try to delete that page in wiki, but AFAIK its not deleted as .html file.
But an alternative is to edit that wiki page and remove all that nabble stuff.
> 2017-09-06 9:46 GMT+02:00 Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Guillaume
>>
>> The PMC have discussed this a while back and we are dropping Nabble,
>> eg your first bullet.
>> We have removed any links or mentions of Nabble on the Camel website.
>>
>> Thanks for making it a read-only. Also we have alot of stuff to do
>> already so I dont think we want/need more to administrate etc.
>>
>> And today there are better alternatives than nabble, either the real
>> mailing list, or using stackoverflow or gitter etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Last week, I spent a few hours removing a lot of spams from the nabble
>> > forums.
>> > In order to not be spammed anymore, I disabled the creation and reply to
>> > the forums, thereby acting as a read-only archive of the mailing lists.
>> > I'm getting requests from users to be able to post.
>> >
>> > I think we can:
>> > * leave it as is and force users to use the mailing lists
>> > * create a team and put users in that team so that they can write in
>> the
>> > forums (i think this has to be done manually after a request from the
>> user)
>> > * revert and allow anyone to write (which will bring spam again)
>> >
>> > What you guys want to do ?
>> > In all cases, it would be nice if some additional PMC members could step
>> in
>> > to administrate the nabble forums.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Guillaume Nodet
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ------------------------
> Guillaume Nodet
--
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
Re: Nabble forums
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org>.
I think that's a good move, however it hasn't been followed through yet:
http://camel.apache.org/discussion-forums.html
2017-09-06 9:46 GMT+02:00 Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Guillaume
>
> The PMC have discussed this a while back and we are dropping Nabble,
> eg your first bullet.
> We have removed any links or mentions of Nabble on the Camel website.
>
> Thanks for making it a read-only. Also we have alot of stuff to do
> already so I dont think we want/need more to administrate etc.
>
> And today there are better alternatives than nabble, either the real
> mailing list, or using stackoverflow or gitter etc.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Last week, I spent a few hours removing a lot of spams from the nabble
> > forums.
> > In order to not be spammed anymore, I disabled the creation and reply to
> > the forums, thereby acting as a read-only archive of the mailing lists.
> > I'm getting requests from users to be able to post.
> >
> > I think we can:
> > * leave it as is and force users to use the mailing lists
> > * create a team and put users in that team so that they can write in
> the
> > forums (i think this has to be done manually after a request from the
> user)
> > * revert and allow anyone to write (which will bring spam again)
> >
> > What you guys want to do ?
> > In all cases, it would be nice if some additional PMC members could step
> in
> > to administrate the nabble forums.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Guillaume Nodet
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>
--
------------------------
Guillaume Nodet
Re: Nabble forums
Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.
Hi Guillaume
The PMC have discussed this a while back and we are dropping Nabble,
eg your first bullet.
We have removed any links or mentions of Nabble on the Camel website.
Thanks for making it a read-only. Also we have alot of stuff to do
already so I dont think we want/need more to administrate etc.
And today there are better alternatives than nabble, either the real
mailing list, or using stackoverflow or gitter etc.
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org> wrote:
> Last week, I spent a few hours removing a lot of spams from the nabble
> forums.
> In order to not be spammed anymore, I disabled the creation and reply to
> the forums, thereby acting as a read-only archive of the mailing lists.
> I'm getting requests from users to be able to post.
>
> I think we can:
> * leave it as is and force users to use the mailing lists
> * create a team and put users in that team so that they can write in the
> forums (i think this has to be done manually after a request from the user)
> * revert and allow anyone to write (which will bring spam again)
>
> What you guys want to do ?
> In all cases, it would be nice if some additional PMC members could step in
> to administrate the nabble forums.
>
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
--
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
Fwd: Nabble forums
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org>.
Last week, I spent a few hours removing a lot of spams from the nabble
forums.
In order to not be spammed anymore, I disabled the creation and reply to
the forums, thereby acting as a read-only archive of the mailing lists.
I'm getting requests from users to be able to post.
I think we can:
* leave it as is and force users to use the mailing lists
* create a team and put users in that team so that they can write in the
forums (i think this has to be done manually after a request from the user)
* revert and allow anyone to write (which will bring spam again)
What you guys want to do ?
In all cases, it would be nice if some additional PMC members could step in
to administrate the nabble forums.
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet