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Posted to dev@tinkerpop.apache.org by Jeffrey Freeman <je...@syncleus.com> on 2017/10/01 04:03:32 UTC
Why isnt the popular OGM Ferma listed in "Community Contributions"
I was looking at the "Community Contributions" section of
http://tinkerpop.apache.org
I noticed of all the OGM (Object Graph Model) Libraries listed all the ones
there are less mature, less active, and have less users than the more
popular Ferma library ( https://github.com/Syncleus/Ferma ). Why was this
left out, it has been around for almost 4 years now (older than most of the
options on the list).
Fair warning I am the author of Ferma, but you can check the project
history to confirm most of my assertions. Seems it deserves mention in the
list.
Re: Why isnt the popular OGM Ferma listed in "Community Contributions"
Posted by Jeffrey Freeman <je...@syncleus.com>.
Done, sorry again for any offense.
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks, Jeffrey - I'd like a new thread so that we have a clean slate of
> discussion on the topic (if any).
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
> jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
>
> > However I'd like to say if anyone does feel belittled I apologize, that
> > wasnt the intention.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
> > jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I've read the link you provided, Ferma appears to meet all the
> > > requirements. The homepage as well as documentation can be found here:
> > > http://syncleus.com/Ferma
> > >
> > > Would this email serve as the request or would you like me to start a
> new
> > > thread?
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
> > > jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I didn't belittle other projects. Saying a project is less mature or
> > >> popular is not "belittling" them. Than you for the info.
> > >>
> > >> On Oct 1, 2017 8:00 AM, "Stephen Mallette" <sp...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The Community Contributions listing is not a popularity contest. You
> > don't
> > >> need to prove how great Ferma is and you certainly don't need to
> > belittle
> > >> the efforts of other TinkerPop community members who have also
> > contributed
> > >> OGMs. To get listed you simply need to meet our listing policy which
> is
> > >> spelled out here:
> > >>
> > >> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/policy.html
> > >>
> > >> If you do, you send an email along the lines of:
> > >>
> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f1136cb44c634233a73627c
> > >> 23d73d18d0ed0c464bb3cf60af5dc8405@%3Cdev.tinkerpop.apache.org%3E
> > >>
> > >> The community will take some time to consider the proposal and then in
> > all
> > >> likelihood it will be added - I don't think we've ever denied a
> request
> > >> and
> > >> if we did, the problem was quickly rectified by the project owner and
> > the
> > >> project got the listing addition. Please make sure Ferma complies with
> > the
> > >> listing policy and start a fresh dev list thread for discussion.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
> > >> jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I was looking at the "Community Contributions" section of
> > >> > http://tinkerpop.apache.org
> > >> >
> > >> > I noticed of all the OGM (Object Graph Model) Libraries listed all
> the
> > >> ones
> > >> > there are less mature, less active, and have less users than the
> more
> > >> > popular Ferma library ( https://github.com/Syncleus/Ferma ). Why
> was
> > >> this
> > >> > left out, it has been around for almost 4 years now (older than most
> > of
> > >> the
> > >> > options on the list).
> > >> >
> > >> > Fair warning I am the author of Ferma, but you can check the project
> > >> > history to confirm most of my assertions. Seems it deserves mention
> in
> > >> the
> > >> > list.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
Re: Why isnt the popular OGM Ferma listed in "Community Contributions"
Posted by Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>.
Thanks, Jeffrey - I'd like a new thread so that we have a clean slate of
discussion on the topic (if any).
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
> However I'd like to say if anyone does feel belittled I apologize, that
> wasnt the intention.
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
> jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
>
> > I've read the link you provided, Ferma appears to meet all the
> > requirements. The homepage as well as documentation can be found here:
> > http://syncleus.com/Ferma
> >
> > Would this email serve as the request or would you like me to start a new
> > thread?
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
> > jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I didn't belittle other projects. Saying a project is less mature or
> >> popular is not "belittling" them. Than you for the info.
> >>
> >> On Oct 1, 2017 8:00 AM, "Stephen Mallette" <sp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The Community Contributions listing is not a popularity contest. You
> don't
> >> need to prove how great Ferma is and you certainly don't need to
> belittle
> >> the efforts of other TinkerPop community members who have also
> contributed
> >> OGMs. To get listed you simply need to meet our listing policy which is
> >> spelled out here:
> >>
> >> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/policy.html
> >>
> >> If you do, you send an email along the lines of:
> >>
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f1136cb44c634233a73627c
> >> 23d73d18d0ed0c464bb3cf60af5dc8405@%3Cdev.tinkerpop.apache.org%3E
> >>
> >> The community will take some time to consider the proposal and then in
> all
> >> likelihood it will be added - I don't think we've ever denied a request
> >> and
> >> if we did, the problem was quickly rectified by the project owner and
> the
> >> project got the listing addition. Please make sure Ferma complies with
> the
> >> listing policy and start a fresh dev list thread for discussion.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
> >> jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I was looking at the "Community Contributions" section of
> >> > http://tinkerpop.apache.org
> >> >
> >> > I noticed of all the OGM (Object Graph Model) Libraries listed all the
> >> ones
> >> > there are less mature, less active, and have less users than the more
> >> > popular Ferma library ( https://github.com/Syncleus/Ferma ). Why was
> >> this
> >> > left out, it has been around for almost 4 years now (older than most
> of
> >> the
> >> > options on the list).
> >> >
> >> > Fair warning I am the author of Ferma, but you can check the project
> >> > history to confirm most of my assertions. Seems it deserves mention in
> >> the
> >> > list.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
Re: Why isnt the popular OGM Ferma listed in "Community Contributions"
Posted by Jeffrey Freeman <je...@syncleus.com>.
However I'd like to say if anyone does feel belittled I apologize, that
wasnt the intention.
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
> I've read the link you provided, Ferma appears to meet all the
> requirements. The homepage as well as documentation can be found here:
> http://syncleus.com/Ferma
>
> Would this email serve as the request or would you like me to start a new
> thread?
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
> jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
>
>> I didn't belittle other projects. Saying a project is less mature or
>> popular is not "belittling" them. Than you for the info.
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2017 8:00 AM, "Stephen Mallette" <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Community Contributions listing is not a popularity contest. You don't
>> need to prove how great Ferma is and you certainly don't need to belittle
>> the efforts of other TinkerPop community members who have also contributed
>> OGMs. To get listed you simply need to meet our listing policy which is
>> spelled out here:
>>
>> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/policy.html
>>
>> If you do, you send an email along the lines of:
>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f1136cb44c634233a73627c
>> 23d73d18d0ed0c464bb3cf60af5dc8405@%3Cdev.tinkerpop.apache.org%3E
>>
>> The community will take some time to consider the proposal and then in all
>> likelihood it will be added - I don't think we've ever denied a request
>> and
>> if we did, the problem was quickly rectified by the project owner and the
>> project got the listing addition. Please make sure Ferma complies with the
>> listing policy and start a fresh dev list thread for discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
>> jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I was looking at the "Community Contributions" section of
>> > http://tinkerpop.apache.org
>> >
>> > I noticed of all the OGM (Object Graph Model) Libraries listed all the
>> ones
>> > there are less mature, less active, and have less users than the more
>> > popular Ferma library ( https://github.com/Syncleus/Ferma ). Why was
>> this
>> > left out, it has been around for almost 4 years now (older than most of
>> the
>> > options on the list).
>> >
>> > Fair warning I am the author of Ferma, but you can check the project
>> > history to confirm most of my assertions. Seems it deserves mention in
>> the
>> > list.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Why isnt the popular OGM Ferma listed in "Community Contributions"
Posted by Jeffrey Freeman <je...@syncleus.com>.
I've read the link you provided, Ferma appears to meet all the
requirements. The homepage as well as documentation can be found here:
http://syncleus.com/Ferma
Would this email serve as the request or would you like me to start a new
thread?
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
> I didn't belittle other projects. Saying a project is less mature or
> popular is not "belittling" them. Than you for the info.
>
> On Oct 1, 2017 8:00 AM, "Stephen Mallette" <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The Community Contributions listing is not a popularity contest. You don't
> need to prove how great Ferma is and you certainly don't need to belittle
> the efforts of other TinkerPop community members who have also contributed
> OGMs. To get listed you simply need to meet our listing policy which is
> spelled out here:
>
> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/policy.html
>
> If you do, you send an email along the lines of:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f1136cb44c634233a73627c
> 23d73d18d0ed0c464bb3cf60af5dc8405@%3Cdev.tinkerpop.apache.org%3E
>
> The community will take some time to consider the proposal and then in all
> likelihood it will be added - I don't think we've ever denied a request and
> if we did, the problem was quickly rectified by the project owner and the
> project got the listing addition. Please make sure Ferma complies with the
> listing policy and start a fresh dev list thread for discussion.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
> jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
>
> > I was looking at the "Community Contributions" section of
> > http://tinkerpop.apache.org
> >
> > I noticed of all the OGM (Object Graph Model) Libraries listed all the
> ones
> > there are less mature, less active, and have less users than the more
> > popular Ferma library ( https://github.com/Syncleus/Ferma ). Why was
> this
> > left out, it has been around for almost 4 years now (older than most of
> the
> > options on the list).
> >
> > Fair warning I am the author of Ferma, but you can check the project
> > history to confirm most of my assertions. Seems it deserves mention in
> the
> > list.
> >
>
>
>
Re: Why isnt the popular OGM Ferma listed in "Community Contributions"
Posted by Jeffrey Freeman <je...@syncleus.com>.
I didn't belittle other projects. Saying a project is less mature or
popular is not "belittling" them. Than you for the info.
On Oct 1, 2017 8:00 AM, "Stephen Mallette" <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Community Contributions listing is not a popularity contest. You don't
need to prove how great Ferma is and you certainly don't need to belittle
the efforts of other TinkerPop community members who have also contributed
OGMs. To get listed you simply need to meet our listing policy which is
spelled out here:
http://tinkerpop.apache.org/policy.html
If you do, you send an email along the lines of:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f1136cb44c634233a73627c23d73d1
8d0ed0c464bb3cf60af5dc8405@%3Cdev.tinkerpop.apache.org%3E
The community will take some time to consider the proposal and then in all
likelihood it will be added - I don't think we've ever denied a request and
if we did, the problem was quickly rectified by the project owner and the
project got the listing addition. Please make sure Ferma complies with the
listing policy and start a fresh dev list thread for discussion.
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
> I was looking at the "Community Contributions" section of
> http://tinkerpop.apache.org
>
> I noticed of all the OGM (Object Graph Model) Libraries listed all the
ones
> there are less mature, less active, and have less users than the more
> popular Ferma library ( https://github.com/Syncleus/Ferma ). Why was this
> left out, it has been around for almost 4 years now (older than most of
the
> options on the list).
>
> Fair warning I am the author of Ferma, but you can check the project
> history to confirm most of my assertions. Seems it deserves mention in the
> list.
>
Re: Why isnt the popular OGM Ferma listed in "Community Contributions"
Posted by Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>.
The Community Contributions listing is not a popularity contest. You don't
need to prove how great Ferma is and you certainly don't need to belittle
the efforts of other TinkerPop community members who have also contributed
OGMs. To get listed you simply need to meet our listing policy which is
spelled out here:
http://tinkerpop.apache.org/policy.html
If you do, you send an email along the lines of:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f1136cb44c634233a73627c23d73d18d0ed0c464bb3cf60af5dc8405@%3Cdev.tinkerpop.apache.org%3E
The community will take some time to consider the proposal and then in all
likelihood it will be added - I don't think we've ever denied a request and
if we did, the problem was quickly rectified by the project owner and the
project got the listing addition. Please make sure Ferma complies with the
listing policy and start a fresh dev list thread for discussion.
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Jeffrey Freeman <
jeffrey.freeman@syncleus.com> wrote:
> I was looking at the "Community Contributions" section of
> http://tinkerpop.apache.org
>
> I noticed of all the OGM (Object Graph Model) Libraries listed all the ones
> there are less mature, less active, and have less users than the more
> popular Ferma library ( https://github.com/Syncleus/Ferma ). Why was this
> left out, it has been around for almost 4 years now (older than most of the
> options on the list).
>
> Fair warning I am the author of Ferma, but you can check the project
> history to confirm most of my assertions. Seems it deserves mention in the
> list.
>