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Posted to dev@hdt.apache.org by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> on 2013/03/04 07:10:07 UTC

Re: initial plugin split done

Makes total sense and I'll be eager and available to review it and cast my
VOTE.

Cheers,
Chris


On 2/26/13 10:13 PM, "Adam Berry" <ad...@apache.org> wrote:

>So with Bob's feature outline, I've been thinking a little more about
>this.
>
>If we want to do a developer focused release, it seems like initially
>targeting the 0.23/2.0 line would make sense, and then add back in the
>support to the 1.x stable line later on as we solidify the initial feature
>set.
>
>So this would just be shifting the current features (hdfs browsing, job
>launching, basic project source support) to support that target.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Cheers,
>Adam
>
>On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Sounds great, Adam. +1 to releasing early, and often.
>>
>> We have a good opportunity here to release even a developer focused
>> release, and then improve docs with more releases that we do.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> On 2/15/13 7:54 PM, "Adam Berry" <ad...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
>> >chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hey Adam,
>> >>
>> >> Great work! Do you think it's now time for a first release? Even if
>>it's
>> >> not fully functional, and even if it doesn't support everything you
>> >> mention in paragraph #2 below, it will be a great incremental
>>milestone.
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2/11/13 8:29 PM, "Adam Berry" <ad...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Hey guys,
>> >> >
>> >> >So first, let me say thanks for the patience as I worked on this.
>> >> >
>> >> >I've split up the original single plugin into a few logical units
>>as we
>> >> >discussed before. I've thrown up the beginnings of a wiki page,
>> >> >http://wiki.apache.org/hdt/HDTGettingStarted with the beginnings of
>> how
>> >> to
>> >> >grab this and work with it. The maven/tycho build support still
>>needs
>> >>to
>> >> >go
>> >> >in, but I should be able to get to that this week.
>> >> >
>> >> >So now we are ready to start attacking multi hadoop version
>>support! We
>> >> >need multi version clients for launching jobs on hadoop clusters,
>>also
>> >>for
>> >> >interacting with hdfs on the same clusters, those will need the
>> >>connectors
>> >> >that we discussed before. The other spot is in the jars that get
>>that
>> >> >added
>> >> >to the classpath for MapReduce projects.
>> >> >
>> >> >Although the plugins are logically split, some of the classes in
>>them
>> >>need
>> >> >some more work to better split the work between core and ui, so
>>keeping
>> >> >refactoring in mind as would be good I think. For now, the Hadoop
>> >>imports
>> >> >are satisfied using the org.apache.hadoop.eclipse plugin, which
>>bundles
>> >> >Hadoop 1.0.4.
>> >> >
>> >> >I've added some JIRAs as trackers for this feature work, so feel
>>free
>> >>to
>> >> >jump in to the source and chime in!
>> >> >
>> >> >Cheers,
>> >> >Adam
>> >>
>> >> Hey guys,
>> >
>> >sorry for the delay in responding, I was struck down by the flu.
>> >
>> >So I'm really not sure here, so comments and thoughts are more than
>> >welcome.
>> >
>> >We can probably make the current set of tools work with 1.0 without too
>> >much trouble, but we would also need some tests and documentation
>>before
>> >release, not necessarily exhaustive, but at least something. Pursuing a
>> >release quickly would likely help to drive interest and momentum for
>>the
>> >tools.
>> >
>> >I think I'm leaning in favor of doing that, gets us used to doing
>>apache
>> >releases, and the other pieces of infrastructure, and would let us get
>> >visible within the hadoop community sooner.
>> >
>> >I believe its still important to start work on the multi version
>>support
>> >as
>> >soon as possible, but I think we can do that in parallel to the
>>release of
>> >some tools that support the 1.0 line.
>> >
>> >So let me know what you guys think, and we'll go from there.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Adam
>>
>>