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[jira] Created: (LEGAL-85) Please add some more detailed guidelines on the requirements for grants to the web page

Please add some more detailed guidelines on the requirements for grants to the web page
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                 Key: LEGAL-85
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-85
             Project: Legal Discuss
          Issue Type: Task
            Reporter: Benson Margulies


I've quoted http://apache.org/licenses/#clas below.

It would be helpful if this were to be expanded to give some broad guidelines to define 'a body of existing software'.

I think that there are three cases, but there might be two:

1. a checkbox on a JIRA, or a patch on a mailing list. No CLA
2. a CLA
3. a grant

I find that I can't explain how to draw the lines, and, in fact, it might be that case 1 is always supposed to be case 2 --- but I'm sure that many Apache committers aren't checking for CLAs before committing small patches.


Software Grants
When an individual or corporation decides to donate a body of existing software or documentation to one of the Apache projects, they need to execute a formal Software Grant Agreement (SGA) with the ASF. Typically, this is done after negotiating approval with the ASF Incubator or one of the PMCs, since the ASF will not accept software unless there is a viable community available to support a collaborative project.

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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-85) Please add some more detailed guidelines on the requirements for grants to the web page

Posted by "Sam Ruby (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sam Ruby commented on LEGAL-85:
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See also:  http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html

Note that that is not just for podlings, but also for existing projects.
                
> Please add some more detailed guidelines on the requirements for grants to the web page
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-85
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-85
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Task
>            Reporter: Benson Margulies
>
> I've quoted http://apache.org/licenses/#clas below.
> It would be helpful if this were to be expanded to give some broad guidelines to define 'a body of existing software'.
> I think that there are three cases, but there might be two:
> 1. a checkbox on a JIRA, or a patch on a mailing list. No CLA
> 2. a CLA
> 3. a grant
> I find that I can't explain how to draw the lines, and, in fact, it might be that case 1 is always supposed to be case 2 --- but I'm sure that many Apache committers aren't checking for CLAs before committing small patches.
> Software Grants
> When an individual or corporation decides to donate a body of existing software or documentation to one of the Apache projects, they need to execute a formal Software Grant Agreement (SGA) with the ASF. Typically, this is done after negotiating approval with the ASF Incubator or one of the PMCs, since the ASF will not accept software unless there is a viable community available to support a collaborative project.

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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-85) Please add some more detailed guidelines on the requirements for grants to the web page

Posted by "Robert Burrell Donkin (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Robert Burrell Donkin commented on LEGAL-85:
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Here's the way I see things...

The Apache License, 2.0 contains

   5. Submission of Contributions. Unless You explicitly state otherwise, any Contribution intentionally submitted for inclusion in the Work by You 
       to the Licensor shall be under the terms and conditions of this License, without any additional terms or conditions. Notwithstanding the above, 
       nothing herein shall supersede or modify the terms of any separate license agreement you may have executed with Licensor regarding such Contributions.

This gives legal coverage for almost all contributions. 

CLAs are a stronger indication of intent, and Apache prefers to have them where possible for ethical and legal reasons (even where section 5 applies). A software grant is the strongest form of contribution.  
                
> Please add some more detailed guidelines on the requirements for grants to the web page
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-85
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-85
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Task
>            Reporter: Benson Margulies
>
> I've quoted http://apache.org/licenses/#clas below.
> It would be helpful if this were to be expanded to give some broad guidelines to define 'a body of existing software'.
> I think that there are three cases, but there might be two:
> 1. a checkbox on a JIRA, or a patch on a mailing list. No CLA
> 2. a CLA
> 3. a grant
> I find that I can't explain how to draw the lines, and, in fact, it might be that case 1 is always supposed to be case 2 --- but I'm sure that many Apache committers aren't checking for CLAs before committing small patches.
> Software Grants
> When an individual or corporation decides to donate a body of existing software or documentation to one of the Apache projects, they need to execute a formal Software Grant Agreement (SGA) with the ASF. Typically, this is done after negotiating approval with the ASF Incubator or one of the PMCs, since the ASF will not accept software unless there is a viable community available to support a collaborative project.

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