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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Paul Angus <pa...@shapeblue.com> on 2015/11/20 10:10:49 UTC
4.6 release
Guys,
I'm out and about this morning, but I've noticed that the release notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the fact that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
2. If we're going to do this then it needs to needs to be put front and center on the download links page with an explanation of the differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO contain the noredist can be found.
It looks like we're actively trying to make it difficult for people to start using CloudStack.
Regards,
Paul Angus
VP Technology/Cloud Architect
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Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Erik Weber <te...@gmail.com>.
Looks ok aside from a few typos already mentioned in the PR.
--
Erik
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> @erik and @nux
>
> Can you check this:
> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-docs-rn/pull/26
>
> let me know if you agree with the upgrade instructions..
>
> > On Nov 23, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Pierre-Luc Dion <pd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > For cloudstack-awsapi, shouldn't we include is rpm in the 4.6 repo so
> > ```yum upgrade``` will work, then part of the RN would be to remove
> awsapi
> > after the upgrade if it's not used? Otherwise we can add ```rpm -e
> > --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi``` to the RN
> >
> > For the repo URL http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.X, as far as I know
> > (4.4.x) they always been built with noredis libs, but the package name
> does
> > not tell it, this is unfortunate. So I guest it would make sense to state
> > in the RN that they are including noredis libs ?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Remi Bergsma <
> RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> These should be in the RN for 4.6.0, we can add it asap indeed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23/11/15 12:07, "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Remi Bergsma <
> RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It was an requirement but is removed in 4.6.0 (the ~1M line code
> delete
> >> change).
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, so we need to add two things to the RN/docs then:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Remove old dependency on ‘awsapi’ (did not test, copied from Nux):
> >>>> rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. If upgrading from 4.4.x or earlier, 4.6.0 needs to have both
> >> systemvm templates of 4.5.0 and 4.6.0 registered prior to upgrade.
> >>>
> >>> I think we should have this in the RN before 4.6.1 announce 4.6.0
> >>>
> >>> Then we will write the RN for 4.6.1
> >>>
> >>> makes sense ?
> >>>
> >>>> This will be fixed in 4.6.1 (fix already merged)
> >>>>
> >>>> I will cut an RC for 4.6.1 on Monday next week.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Remi
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 23/11/15 11:52, "Erik Weber" <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> isn't awsapi a requirement in older versions?
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/GA-4.5.1/packaging/centos63/cloud.spec#L88
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thus everyone doing an upgrade would have it installed, or do i
> >>>>> misunderstand it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Erik
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think we do need to mention this in the notes, if people have the
> >>>>>> "awsapi" package installed, they should remove it, or we should
> >> gracefully
> >>>>>> "obsolete" it from the RPM packaging.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I had to manually "rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi" to avoid
> >> conflicts,
> >>>>>> but otherwise the upgrade went fine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nux!
> >>>>>> www.nux.ro
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org, "Remi Bergsma" <
> >>>>>> RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>, "Pierre-Luc Dion" <pdion@cloudops.com
> >
> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 November, 2015 09:53:10
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <
> runseb@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Talking about 4.6
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There seems to be an issue when people upgrade from 4.5.2 and the
> >>>>>> awsapi package
> >>>>>>>> is missing.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ping on this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Before me make the 4.6 release announcement is there an issue with
> >> the
> >>>>>> upgrade ?
> >>>>>>> Do we need additional notes in the upgrade mechanisms and release
> >> note
> >>>>>> to talk
> >>>>>>> about the removal of the awsapi package ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Can someone (ping @pdion) upgrade the release notes to mention the
> >> fact
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> awsapi is removed and add a step in the upgrade process ?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
> >>>>>>>>>> states:
> >>>>>>>>>> 'Warning
> >>>>>>>>>> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must
> >> be
> >>>>>> build using
> >>>>>>>>>> “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
> >>>>>>>>>> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s)
> >>>>>> anywhere.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on
> >>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu been
> >>>>>>>>>> built with?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the old path and
> >>>>>>>>> /centos is the new one.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >>>>>>>>>> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
> >>>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd
> >>>>>>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
> >>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com |
> Twitter:@shapeblue
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> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
> >>>>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you
> >> would
> >>>>>> like to see
> >>>>>>>>>> instead so we can discuss.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <
> >>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the
> release
> >>>>>>>>>>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is
> the
> >>>>>> fact
> >>>>>>>>>>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be
> >> put
> >>>>>> front
> >>>>>>>>>>> and center on the download links page with an explanation of
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which
> DO
> >>>>>>>>>>> contain the noredist can be found.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for
> >> people
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> start using CloudStack.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> *Paul Angus*
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
> >>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com |
> >> Twitter:@shapeblue
> >>>>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N
> 4HS
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>.
@erik and @nux
Can you check this:
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-docs-rn/pull/26
let me know if you agree with the upgrade instructions..
> On Nov 23, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Pierre-Luc Dion <pd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> For cloudstack-awsapi, shouldn't we include is rpm in the 4.6 repo so
> ```yum upgrade``` will work, then part of the RN would be to remove awsapi
> after the upgrade if it's not used? Otherwise we can add ```rpm -e
> --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi``` to the RN
>
> For the repo URL http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.X, as far as I know
> (4.4.x) they always been built with noredis libs, but the package name does
> not tell it, this is unfortunate. So I guest it would make sense to state
> in the RN that they are including noredis libs ?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Remi Bergsma <RB...@schubergphilis.com>
> wrote:
>
>> These should be in the RN for 4.6.0, we can add it asap indeed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23/11/15 12:07, "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Remi Bergsma <RB...@schubergphilis.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It was an requirement but is removed in 4.6.0 (the ~1M line code delete
>> change).
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so we need to add two things to the RN/docs then:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Remove old dependency on ‘awsapi’ (did not test, copied from Nux):
>>>> rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi
>>>>
>>>> 2. If upgrading from 4.4.x or earlier, 4.6.0 needs to have both
>> systemvm templates of 4.5.0 and 4.6.0 registered prior to upgrade.
>>>
>>> I think we should have this in the RN before 4.6.1 announce 4.6.0
>>>
>>> Then we will write the RN for 4.6.1
>>>
>>> makes sense ?
>>>
>>>> This will be fixed in 4.6.1 (fix already merged)
>>>>
>>>> I will cut an RC for 4.6.1 on Monday next week.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Remi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23/11/15 11:52, "Erik Weber" <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> isn't awsapi a requirement in older versions?
>>>>>
>> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/GA-4.5.1/packaging/centos63/cloud.spec#L88
>>>>>
>>>>> thus everyone doing an upgrade would have it installed, or do i
>>>>> misunderstand it?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Erik
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we do need to mention this in the notes, if people have the
>>>>>> "awsapi" package installed, they should remove it, or we should
>> gracefully
>>>>>> "obsolete" it from the RPM packaging.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to manually "rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi" to avoid
>> conflicts,
>>>>>> but otherwise the upgrade went fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nux!
>>>>>> www.nux.ro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org, "Remi Bergsma" <
>>>>>> RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>, "Pierre-Luc Dion" <pd...@cloudops.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 November, 2015 09:53:10
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Talking about 4.6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There seems to be an issue when people upgrade from 4.5.2 and the
>>>>>> awsapi package
>>>>>>>> is missing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ping on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before me make the 4.6 release announcement is there an issue with
>> the
>>>>>> upgrade ?
>>>>>>> Do we need additional notes in the upgrade mechanisms and release
>> note
>>>>>> to talk
>>>>>>> about the removal of the awsapi package ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can someone (ping @pdion) upgrade the release notes to mention the
>> fact
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> awsapi is removed and add a step in the upgrade process ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
>>>>>>>>>> states:
>>>>>>>>>> 'Warning
>>>>>>>>>> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must
>> be
>>>>>> build using
>>>>>>>>>> “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
>>>>>>>>>> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s)
>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on
>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu been
>>>>>>>>>> built with?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the old path and
>>>>>>>>> /centos is the new one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
>>>>>>>>>> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
>>>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd
>>>>>>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>>>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you
>> would
>>>>>> like to see
>>>>>>>>>> instead so we can discuss.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <
>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release
>>>>>>>>>>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
>>>>>>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the
>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be
>> put
>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>>>> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
>>>>>>>>>>> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO
>>>>>>>>>>> contain the noredist can be found.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for
>> people
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> start using CloudStack.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Paul Angus*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com |
>> Twitter:@shapeblue
>>>>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>>>>>>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>>>>>>>>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack Software Engineering
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>>>>>>>>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is
>>>>>> addressed.
>>>>>>>>>>> Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author
>> and do
>>>>>>>>>>> not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related
>>>>>>>>>>> companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email,
>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or
>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>> it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have
>>>>>>>>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company
>>>>>> incorporated
>>>>>>>>>>> in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>>>>>>>>>>> incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape
>> Blue
>>>>>>>>>>> Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company
>> incorporated in
>>>>>>>>>>> Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd.
>> ShapeBlue
>>>>>> SA
>>>>>>>>>>> Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa
>> and
>>>>>> is traded
>>>>>>>>>>> under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered
>>>>>> trademark.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Daan
>>>>>>>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<
>>>>>> http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>>>>>>>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<
>>>>>> http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack Consulting<
>> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack Software
>>>>>>>>>> Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>> Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<
>>>>>> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>>>>> intended solely
>>>>>>>>>> for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views
>> or
>>>>>> opinions
>>>>>>>>>> expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
>>>>>> represent those
>>>>>>>>>> of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the
>> intended
>>>>>> recipient
>>>>>>>>>> of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its
>>>>>> contents, nor
>>>>>>>>>> copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you
>> believe
>>>>>> you have
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>>>>>> incorporated in
>>>>>>>>>> England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>>>>>> incorporated in
>>>>>>>>>> India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape
>> Blue
>>>>>> Brasil
>>>>>>>>>> Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is
>> operated
>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>> license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company
>>>>>> registered by
>>>>>>>>>> The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from
>> Shape
>>>>>> Blue Ltd.
>>>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
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>>>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Pierre-Luc Dion <pd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
For cloudstack-awsapi, shouldn't we include is rpm in the 4.6 repo so
```yum upgrade``` will work, then part of the RN would be to remove awsapi
after the upgrade if it's not used? Otherwise we can add ```rpm -e
--nodeps cloudstack-awsapi``` to the RN
For the repo URL http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.X, as far as I know
(4.4.x) they always been built with noredis libs, but the package name does
not tell it, this is unfortunate. So I guest it would make sense to state
in the RN that they are including noredis libs ?
Regards,
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Remi Bergsma <RB...@schubergphilis.com>
wrote:
> These should be in the RN for 4.6.0, we can add it asap indeed.
>
>
>
>
> On 23/11/15 12:07, "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Remi Bergsma <RB...@schubergphilis.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It was an requirement but is removed in 4.6.0 (the ~1M line code delete
> change).
> >>
> >> Ok, so we need to add two things to the RN/docs then:
> >>
> >> 1. Remove old dependency on ‘awsapi’ (did not test, copied from Nux):
> >> rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi
> >>
> >> 2. If upgrading from 4.4.x or earlier, 4.6.0 needs to have both
> systemvm templates of 4.5.0 and 4.6.0 registered prior to upgrade.
> >
> >I think we should have this in the RN before 4.6.1 announce 4.6.0
> >
> >Then we will write the RN for 4.6.1
> >
> >makes sense ?
> >
> >> This will be fixed in 4.6.1 (fix already merged)
> >>
> >> I will cut an RC for 4.6.1 on Monday next week.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Remi
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23/11/15 11:52, "Erik Weber" <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> isn't awsapi a requirement in older versions?
> >>>
> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/GA-4.5.1/packaging/centos63/cloud.spec#L88
> >>>
> >>> thus everyone doing an upgrade would have it installed, or do i
> >>> misunderstand it?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Erik
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I think we do need to mention this in the notes, if people have the
> >>>> "awsapi" package installed, they should remove it, or we should
> gracefully
> >>>> "obsolete" it from the RPM packaging.
> >>>>
> >>>> I had to manually "rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi" to avoid
> conflicts,
> >>>> but otherwise the upgrade went fine.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> >>>>
> >>>> Nux!
> >>>> www.nux.ro
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org, "Remi Bergsma" <
> >>>> RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>, "Pierre-Luc Dion" <pd...@cloudops.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 November, 2015 09:53:10
> >>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Talking about 4.6
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There seems to be an issue when people upgrade from 4.5.2 and the
> >>>> awsapi package
> >>>>>> is missing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ping on this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Before me make the 4.6 release announcement is there an issue with
> the
> >>>> upgrade ?
> >>>>> Do we need additional notes in the upgrade mechanisms and release
> note
> >>>> to talk
> >>>>> about the removal of the awsapi package ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Can someone (ping @pdion) upgrade the release notes to mention the
> fact
> >>>> that
> >>>>>> awsapi is removed and add a step in the upgrade process ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
> >>>>>>>> states:
> >>>>>>>> 'Warning
> >>>>>>>> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must
> be
> >>>> build using
> >>>>>>>> “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
> >>>>>>>> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s)
> >>>> anywhere.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on
> >>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu been
> >>>>>>>> built with?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the old path and
> >>>>>>> /centos is the new one.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >>>>>>>> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
> >>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd
> >>>>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
> >>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
> >>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
> >>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you
> would
> >>>> like to see
> >>>>>>>> instead so we can discuss.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <
> >>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Guys,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release
> >>>>>>>>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
> >>>>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the
> >>>> fact
> >>>>>>>>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be
> put
> >>>> front
> >>>>>>>>> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
> >>>>>>>>> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO
> >>>>>>>>> contain the noredist can be found.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for
> people
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> start using CloudStack.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *Paul Angus*
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
> >>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com |
> Twitter:@shapeblue
> >>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
> >>>>>>>>> services
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
> >>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
> >>>>>>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
> >>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting
> >>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
> >>>>>>>>> CloudStack Software Engineering
> >>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
> >>>>>>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
> >>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
> >>>>>>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
> >>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
> >>>>>>>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is
> >>>> addressed.
> >>>>>>>>> Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author
> and do
> >>>>>>>>> not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related
> >>>>>>>>> companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email,
> you
> >>>>>>>>> must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or
> >>>> show
> >>>>>>>>> it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have
> >>>>>>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company
> >>>> incorporated
> >>>>>>>>> in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
> >>>>>>>>> incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape
> Blue
> >>>>>>>>> Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company
> incorporated in
> >>>>>>>>> Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd.
> ShapeBlue
> >>>> SA
> >>>>>>>>> Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa
> and
> >>>> is traded
> >>>>>>>>> under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered
> >>>> trademark.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Daan
> >>>>>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
> >>>> services
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<
> >>>> http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
> >>>>>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<
> >>>> http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
> >>>>>>>> CloudStack Consulting<
> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
> >>>>>>>> CloudStack Software
> >>>>>>>> Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/
> >
> >>>>>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure
> >>>>>>>> Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
> >>>>>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<
> >>>> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
> >>>> intended solely
> >>>>>>>> for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views
> or
> >>>> opinions
> >>>>>>>> expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
> >>>> represent those
> >>>>>>>> of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the
> intended
> >>>> recipient
> >>>>>>>> of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its
> >>>> contents, nor
> >>>>>>>> copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you
> believe
> >>>> you have
> >>>>>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company
> >>>> incorporated in
> >>>>>>>> England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
> >>>> incorporated in
> >>>>>>>> India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape
> Blue
> >>>> Brasil
> >>>>>>>> Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is
> operated
> >>>> under
> >>>>>>>> license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company
> >>>> registered by
> >>>>>>>> The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from
> Shape
> >>>> Blue Ltd.
> >>>>>>>> ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >
>
Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Remi Bergsma <RB...@schubergphilis.com>.
These should be in the RN for 4.6.0, we can add it asap indeed.
On 23/11/15 12:07, "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Remi Bergsma <RB...@schubergphilis.com> wrote:
>>
>> It was an requirement but is removed in 4.6.0 (the ~1M line code delete change).
>>
>> Ok, so we need to add two things to the RN/docs then:
>>
>> 1. Remove old dependency on ‘awsapi’ (did not test, copied from Nux):
>> rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi
>>
>> 2. If upgrading from 4.4.x or earlier, 4.6.0 needs to have both systemvm templates of 4.5.0 and 4.6.0 registered prior to upgrade.
>
>I think we should have this in the RN before 4.6.1 announce 4.6.0
>
>Then we will write the RN for 4.6.1
>
>makes sense ?
>
>> This will be fixed in 4.6.1 (fix already merged)
>>
>> I will cut an RC for 4.6.1 on Monday next week.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Remi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23/11/15 11:52, "Erik Weber" <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> isn't awsapi a requirement in older versions?
>>> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/GA-4.5.1/packaging/centos63/cloud.spec#L88
>>>
>>> thus everyone doing an upgrade would have it installed, or do i
>>> misunderstand it?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Erik
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I think we do need to mention this in the notes, if people have the
>>>> "awsapi" package installed, they should remove it, or we should gracefully
>>>> "obsolete" it from the RPM packaging.
>>>>
>>>> I had to manually "rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi" to avoid conflicts,
>>>> but otherwise the upgrade went fine.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>>>
>>>> Nux!
>>>> www.nux.ro
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org, "Remi Bergsma" <
>>>> RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>, "Pierre-Luc Dion" <pd...@cloudops.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 November, 2015 09:53:10
>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Talking about 4.6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There seems to be an issue when people upgrade from 4.5.2 and the
>>>> awsapi package
>>>>>> is missing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ping on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before me make the 4.6 release announcement is there an issue with the
>>>> upgrade ?
>>>>> Do we need additional notes in the upgrade mechanisms and release note
>>>> to talk
>>>>> about the removal of the awsapi package ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone (ping @pdion) upgrade the release notes to mention the fact
>>>> that
>>>>>> awsapi is removed and add a step in the upgrade process ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
>>>>>>>> states:
>>>>>>>> 'Warning
>>>>>>>> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must be
>>>> build using
>>>>>>>> “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
>>>>>>>> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s)
>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on
>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu been
>>>>>>>> built with?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the old path and
>>>>>>> /centos is the new one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
>>>>>>>> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd
>>>>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
>>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you would
>>>> like to see
>>>>>>>> instead so we can discuss.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <
>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release
>>>>>>>>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
>>>>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the
>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be put
>>>> front
>>>>>>>>> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
>>>>>>>>> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO
>>>>>>>>> contain the noredist can be found.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for people
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> start using CloudStack.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Paul Angus*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>>>>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>>>>>>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting
>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>>>>>>>>> CloudStack Software Engineering
>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>>>>>>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>>>>>>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
>>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>>>>>>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is
>>>> addressed.
>>>>>>>>> Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do
>>>>>>>>> not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related
>>>>>>>>> companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you
>>>>>>>>> must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or
>>>> show
>>>>>>>>> it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have
>>>>>>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company
>>>> incorporated
>>>>>>>>> in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>>>>>>>>> incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue
>>>>>>>>> Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in
>>>>>>>>> Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue
>>>> SA
>>>>>>>>> Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and
>>>> is traded
>>>>>>>>> under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered
>>>> trademark.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Daan
>>>>>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>>>> services
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<
>>>> http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>>>>>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<
>>>> http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
>>>>>>>> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>>>>>>>> CloudStack Software
>>>>>>>> Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>>>>>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure
>>>>>>>> Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>>>>>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<
>>>> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>>> intended solely
>>>>>>>> for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or
>>>> opinions
>>>>>>>> expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
>>>> represent those
>>>>>>>> of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended
>>>> recipient
>>>>>>>> of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its
>>>> contents, nor
>>>>>>>> copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe
>>>> you have
>>>>>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company
>>>> incorporated in
>>>>>>>> England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>>>> incorporated in
>>>>>>>> India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue
>>>> Brasil
>>>>>>>> Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated
>>>> under
>>>>>>>> license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company
>>>> registered by
>>>>>>>> The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape
>>>> Blue Ltd.
>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>.
> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Remi Bergsma <RB...@schubergphilis.com> wrote:
>
> It was an requirement but is removed in 4.6.0 (the ~1M line code delete change).
>
> Ok, so we need to add two things to the RN/docs then:
>
> 1. Remove old dependency on ‘awsapi’ (did not test, copied from Nux):
> rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi
>
> 2. If upgrading from 4.4.x or earlier, 4.6.0 needs to have both systemvm templates of 4.5.0 and 4.6.0 registered prior to upgrade.
I think we should have this in the RN before 4.6.1 announce 4.6.0
Then we will write the RN for 4.6.1
makes sense ?
> This will be fixed in 4.6.1 (fix already merged)
>
> I will cut an RC for 4.6.1 on Monday next week.
>
> Regards,
> Remi
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 23/11/15 11:52, "Erik Weber" <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> isn't awsapi a requirement in older versions?
>> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/GA-4.5.1/packaging/centos63/cloud.spec#L88
>>
>> thus everyone doing an upgrade would have it installed, or do i
>> misunderstand it?
>>
>> --
>> Erik
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think we do need to mention this in the notes, if people have the
>>> "awsapi" package installed, they should remove it, or we should gracefully
>>> "obsolete" it from the RPM packaging.
>>>
>>> I had to manually "rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi" to avoid conflicts,
>>> but otherwise the upgrade went fine.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>>
>>> Nux!
>>> www.nux.ro
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org, "Remi Bergsma" <
>>> RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>, "Pierre-Luc Dion" <pd...@cloudops.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 November, 2015 09:53:10
>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>>
>>>>> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Talking about 4.6
>>>>>
>>>>> There seems to be an issue when people upgrade from 4.5.2 and the
>>> awsapi package
>>>>> is missing.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ping on this.
>>>>
>>>> Before me make the 4.6 release announcement is there an issue with the
>>> upgrade ?
>>>> Do we need additional notes in the upgrade mechanisms and release note
>>> to talk
>>>> about the removal of the awsapi package ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Can someone (ping @pdion) upgrade the release notes to mention the fact
>>> that
>>>>> awsapi is removed and add a step in the upgrade process ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
>>>>>>> states:
>>>>>>> 'Warning
>>>>>>> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must be
>>> build using
>>>>>>> “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
>>>>>>> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s)
>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on
>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu been
>>>>>>> built with?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the old path and
>>>>>> /centos is the new one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Paul Angus
>>>>>>> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd
>>>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you would
>>> like to see
>>>>>>> instead so we can discuss.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <
>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release
>>>>>>>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
>>>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the
>>> fact
>>>>>>>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be put
>>> front
>>>>>>>> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
>>>>>>>> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO
>>>>>>>> contain the noredist can be found.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for people
>>> to
>>>>>>>> start using CloudStack.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Paul Angus*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>>>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>>>>>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting
>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>>>>>>>> CloudStack Software Engineering
>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>>>>>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>>>>>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
>>>>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>>>>>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is
>>> addressed.
>>>>>>>> Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do
>>>>>>>> not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related
>>>>>>>> companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you
>>>>>>>> must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or
>>> show
>>>>>>>> it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have
>>>>>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company
>>> incorporated
>>>>>>>> in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>>>>>>>> incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue
>>>>>>>> Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in
>>>>>>>> Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue
>>> SA
>>>>>>>> Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and
>>> is traded
>>>>>>>> under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered
>>> trademark.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Daan
>>>>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>>> services
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<
>>> http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>>>>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<
>>> http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
>>>>>>> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>>>>>>> CloudStack Software
>>>>>>> Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>>>>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure
>>>>>>> Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>>>>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<
>>> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>> intended solely
>>>>>>> for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or
>>> opinions
>>>>>>> expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
>>> represent those
>>>>>>> of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended
>>> recipient
>>>>>>> of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its
>>> contents, nor
>>>>>>> copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe
>>> you have
>>>>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company
>>> incorporated in
>>>>>>> England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>>> incorporated in
>>>>>>> India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue
>>> Brasil
>>>>>>> Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated
>>> under
>>>>>>> license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company
>>> registered by
>>>>>>> The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape
>>> Blue Ltd.
>>>>>>> ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>>>>>>>
>>>
Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Remi Bergsma <RB...@schubergphilis.com>.
It was an requirement but is removed in 4.6.0 (the ~1M line code delete change).
Ok, so we need to add two things to the RN/docs then:
1. Remove old dependency on ‘awsapi’ (did not test, copied from Nux):
rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi
2. If upgrading from 4.4.x or earlier, 4.6.0 needs to have both systemvm templates of 4.5.0 and 4.6.0 registered prior to upgrade. This will be fixed in 4.6.1 (fix already merged)
I will cut an RC for 4.6.1 on Monday next week.
Regards,
Remi
On 23/11/15 11:52, "Erik Weber" <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>isn't awsapi a requirement in older versions?
>https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/GA-4.5.1/packaging/centos63/cloud.spec#L88
>
>thus everyone doing an upgrade would have it installed, or do i
>misunderstand it?
>
>--
>Erik
>
>On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think we do need to mention this in the notes, if people have the
>> "awsapi" package installed, they should remove it, or we should gracefully
>> "obsolete" it from the RPM packaging.
>>
>> I had to manually "rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi" to avoid conflicts,
>> but otherwise the upgrade went fine.
>>
>> --
>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>
>> Nux!
>> www.nux.ro
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com>
>> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org, "Remi Bergsma" <
>> RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>, "Pierre-Luc Dion" <pd...@cloudops.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, 23 November, 2015 09:53:10
>> > Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>
>> >> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Talking about 4.6
>> >>
>> >> There seems to be an issue when people upgrade from 4.5.2 and the
>> awsapi package
>> >> is missing.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Ping on this.
>> >
>> > Before me make the 4.6 release announcement is there an issue with the
>> upgrade ?
>> > Do we need additional notes in the upgrade mechanisms and release note
>> to talk
>> > about the removal of the awsapi package ?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Can someone (ping @pdion) upgrade the release notes to mention the fact
>> that
>> >> awsapi is removed and add a step in the upgrade process ?
>> >>
>> >>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
>> >>>>
>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
>> >>>> states:
>> >>>> 'Warning
>> >>>> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must be
>> build using
>> >>>> “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
>> >>>> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s)
>> anywhere.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on
>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu been
>> >>>> built with?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the old path and
>> >>> /centos is the new one.
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>> Paul Angus
>> >>>> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
>> >>>> ShapeBlue Ltd
>> >>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>> >>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>> >>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
>> >>>> To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>> >>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you would
>> like to see
>> >>>> instead so we can discuss.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <
>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Guys,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release
>> >>>>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
>> >>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the
>> fact
>> >>>>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be put
>> front
>> >>>>> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
>> >>>>> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO
>> >>>>> contain the noredist can be found.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for people
>> to
>> >>>>> start using CloudStack.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *Paul Angus*
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>> >>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>> >>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>> >>>>> services
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
>> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>> >>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
>> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting
>> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>> >>>>> CloudStack Software Engineering
>> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>> >>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
>> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>> >>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
>> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>> >>>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is
>> addressed.
>> >>>>> Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do
>> >>>>> not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related
>> >>>>> companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you
>> >>>>> must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or
>> show
>> >>>>> it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have
>> >>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company
>> incorporated
>> >>>>> in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>> >>>>> incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue
>> >>>>> Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in
>> >>>>> Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue
>> SA
>> >>>>> Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and
>> is traded
>> >>>>> under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered
>> trademark.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Daan
>> >>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>> services
>> >>>>
>> >>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<
>> http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>> >>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<
>> http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
>> >>>> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>> >>>> CloudStack Software
>> >>>> Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>> >>>> CloudStack Infrastructure
>> >>>> Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>> >>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<
>> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>> intended solely
>> >>>> for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or
>> opinions
>> >>>> expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
>> represent those
>> >>>> of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended
>> recipient
>> >>>> of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its
>> contents, nor
>> >>>> copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe
>> you have
>> >>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company
>> incorporated in
>> >>>> England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>> incorporated in
>> >>>> India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue
>> Brasil
>> >>>> Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated
>> under
>> >>>> license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company
>> registered by
>> >>>> The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape
>> Blue Ltd.
>> >>>> ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>> >>>>
>>
Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Erik Weber <te...@gmail.com>.
isn't awsapi a requirement in older versions?
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/GA-4.5.1/packaging/centos63/cloud.spec#L88
thus everyone doing an upgrade would have it installed, or do i
misunderstand it?
--
Erik
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think we do need to mention this in the notes, if people have the
> "awsapi" package installed, they should remove it, or we should gracefully
> "obsolete" it from the RPM packaging.
>
> I had to manually "rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi" to avoid conflicts,
> but otherwise the upgrade went fine.
>
> --
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com>
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org, "Remi Bergsma" <
> RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>, "Pierre-Luc Dion" <pd...@cloudops.com>
> > Sent: Monday, 23 November, 2015 09:53:10
> > Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>
> >> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Talking about 4.6
> >>
> >> There seems to be an issue when people upgrade from 4.5.2 and the
> awsapi package
> >> is missing.
> >>
> >
> > Ping on this.
> >
> > Before me make the 4.6 release announcement is there an issue with the
> upgrade ?
> > Do we need additional notes in the upgrade mechanisms and release note
> to talk
> > about the removal of the awsapi package ?
> >
> >
> >> Can someone (ping @pdion) upgrade the release notes to mention the fact
> that
> >> awsapi is removed and add a step in the upgrade process ?
> >>
> >>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
> >>>>
> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
> >>>> states:
> >>>> 'Warning
> >>>> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must be
> build using
> >>>> “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
> >>>> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s)
> anywhere.
> >>>>
> >>>> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on
> cloudstack.apt-get.eu been
> >>>> built with?
> >>>>
> >>>> And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the old path and
> >>> /centos is the new one.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Paul Angus
> >>>> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
> >>>> ShapeBlue Ltd
> >>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
> >>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
> >>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
> >>>> To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you would
> like to see
> >>>> instead so we can discuss.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <
> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Guys,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release
> >>>>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
> >>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the
> fact
> >>>>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be put
> front
> >>>>> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
> >>>>> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO
> >>>>> contain the noredist can be found.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for people
> to
> >>>>> start using CloudStack.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Paul Angus*
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
> >>>>>
> >>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
> >>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
> >>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
> >>>>> services
> >>>>>
> >>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
> >>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting
> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
> >>>>> CloudStack Software Engineering
> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
> >>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
> >>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
> >>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
> >>>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is
> addressed.
> >>>>> Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do
> >>>>> not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related
> >>>>> companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you
> >>>>> must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or
> show
> >>>>> it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have
> >>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company
> incorporated
> >>>>> in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
> >>>>> incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue
> >>>>> Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in
> >>>>> Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue
> SA
> >>>>> Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and
> is traded
> >>>>> under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered
> trademark.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Daan
> >>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
> services
> >>>>
> >>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<
> http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
> >>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<
> http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
> >>>> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
> >>>> CloudStack Software
> >>>> Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
> >>>> CloudStack Infrastructure
> >>>> Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
> >>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<
> http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
> >>>>
> >>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
> intended solely
> >>>> for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or
> opinions
> >>>> expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
> represent those
> >>>> of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended
> recipient
> >>>> of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its
> contents, nor
> >>>> copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe
> you have
> >>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company
> incorporated in
> >>>> England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
> incorporated in
> >>>> India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue
> Brasil
> >>>> Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated
> under
> >>>> license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company
> registered by
> >>>> The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape
> Blue Ltd.
> >>>> ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
> >>>>
>
Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro>.
Hi,
I think we do need to mention this in the notes, if people have the "awsapi" package installed, they should remove it, or we should gracefully "obsolete" it from the RPM packaging.
I had to manually "rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi" to avoid conflicts, but otherwise the upgrade went fine.
--
Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
Nux!
www.nux.ro
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sebastien Goasguen" <ru...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org, "Remi Bergsma" <RB...@schubergphilis.com>, "Pierre-Luc Dion" <pd...@cloudops.com>
> Sent: Monday, 23 November, 2015 09:53:10
> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Talking about 4.6
>>
>> There seems to be an issue when people upgrade from 4.5.2 and the awsapi package
>> is missing.
>>
>
> Ping on this.
>
> Before me make the 4.6 release announcement is there an issue with the upgrade ?
> Do we need additional notes in the upgrade mechanisms and release note to talk
> about the removal of the awsapi package ?
>
>
>> Can someone (ping @pdion) upgrade the release notes to mention the fact that
>> awsapi is removed and add a step in the upgrade process ?
>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
>>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
>>>> states:
>>>> 'Warning
>>>> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must be build using
>>>> “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
>>>> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s) anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on cloudstack.apt-get.eu been
>>>> built with?
>>>>
>>>> And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the old path and
>>> /centos is the new one.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Paul Angus
>>>> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd
>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
>>>> To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>>>
>>>> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you would like to see
>>>> instead so we can discuss.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <pa...@shapeblue.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release
>>>>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
>>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
>>>>>
>>>>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the fact
>>>>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be put front
>>>>> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
>>>>> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO
>>>>> contain the noredist can be found.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for people to
>>>>> start using CloudStack.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Paul Angus*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
>>>>>
>>>>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
>>>>>
>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>>>>> services
>>>>>
>>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting
>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>>>>> CloudStack Software Engineering
>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
>>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>>>
>>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed.
>>>>> Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do
>>>>> not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related
>>>>> companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you
>>>>> must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show
>>>>> it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have
>>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated
>>>>> in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>>>>> incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue
>>>>> Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in
>>>>> Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA
>>>>> Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded
>>>>> under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daan
>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
>>>>
>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
>>>> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>>>> CloudStack Software
>>>> Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure
>>>> Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>>
>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely
>>>> for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions
>>>> expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those
>>>> of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient
>>>> of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor
>>>> copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have
>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in
>>>> England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in
>>>> India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil
>>>> Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under
>>>> license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by
>>>> The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd.
>>>> ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>>>>
Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>.
> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Talking about 4.6
>
> There seems to be an issue when people upgrade from 4.5.2 and the awsapi package is missing.
>
Ping on this.
Before me make the 4.6 release announcement is there an issue with the upgrade ?
Do we need additional notes in the upgrade mechanisms and release note to talk about the removal of the awsapi package ?
> Can someone (ping @pdion) upgrade the release notes to mention the fact that awsapi is removed and add a step in the upgrade process ?
>
>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
>>> states:
>>> 'Warning
>>> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must be build using “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
>>> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s) anywhere.
>>>
>>> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on cloudstack.apt-get.eu been built with?
>>>
>>> And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
>>>
>>
>> No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the old path and
>> /centos is the new one.
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Paul Angus
>>> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
>>> ShapeBlue Ltd
>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
>>> To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>>
>>> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you would like to see instead so we can discuss.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <pa...@shapeblue.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release
>>>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
>>>>
>>>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the fact
>>>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
>>>>
>>>> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
>>>>
>>>> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be put front
>>>> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
>>>> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO
>>>> contain the noredist can be found.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for people to
>>>> start using CloudStack.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Paul Angus*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
>>>>
>>>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
>>>>
>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>>>> services
>>>>
>>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting
>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>>>> CloudStack Software Engineering
>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
>>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>>
>>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed.
>>>> Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do
>>>> not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related
>>>> companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you
>>>> must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show
>>>> it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have
>>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated
>>>> in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>>>> incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue
>>>> Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in
>>>> Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA
>>>> Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daan
>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
>>>
>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
>>> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>>> CloudStack Software Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>
>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>>>
>
Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>.
Talking about 4.6
There seems to be an issue when people upgrade from 4.5.2 and the awsapi package is missing.
Can someone (ping @pdion) upgrade the release notes to mention the fact that awsapi is removed and add a step in the upgrade process ?
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
>> states:
>> 'Warning
>> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must be build using “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
>> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s) anywhere.
>>
>> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on cloudstack.apt-get.eu been built with?
>>
>> And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
>>
>
> No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the old path and
> /centos is the new one.
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paul Angus
>> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
>> ShapeBlue Ltd
>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
>> To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>
>> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you would like to see instead so we can discuss.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <pa...@shapeblue.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release
>>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
>>>
>>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the fact
>>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
>>>
>>> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
>>>
>>> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be put front
>>> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
>>> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO
>>> contain the noredist can be found.
>>>
>>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for people to
>>> start using CloudStack.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> *Paul Angus*
>>>
>>>
>>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
>>>
>>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
>>>
>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>>> services
>>>
>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
>>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
>>> <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting
>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>>> CloudStack Software Engineering
>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>
>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed.
>>> Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do
>>> not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related
>>> companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you
>>> must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show
>>> it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have
>>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated
>>> in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>>> incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue
>>> Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in
>>> Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA
>>> Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daan
>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
>>
>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
>> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>> CloudStack Software Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>
>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>>
Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>.
On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
> states:
> 'Warning
> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must be build using “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s) anywhere.
>
> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on cloudstack.apt-get.eu been built with?
>
> And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
>
No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the old path and
/centos is the new one.
>
> Regards,
> Paul Angus
> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
> ShapeBlue Ltd
> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
> To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>
> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you would like to see instead so we can discuss.
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <pa...@shapeblue.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release
>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
>>
>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the fact
>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
>>
>> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
>>
>> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be put front
>> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
>> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO
>> contain the noredist can be found.
>>
>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for people to
>> start using CloudStack.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> *Paul Angus*
>>
>>
>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
>>
>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
>>
>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>> services
>>
>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
>> <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting
>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>> CloudStack Software Engineering
>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>
>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed.
>> Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do
>> not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related
>> companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you
>> must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show
>> it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have
>> received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated
>> in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company
>> incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue
>> Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in
>> Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA
>> Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Daan
> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
>
> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
> CloudStack Software Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
> CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>
> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>
Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Paul Angus <pa...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:
> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on cloudstack.apt-get.eu
> been built with?
>
these used to be build noredist. Has anything changed? I think we must
replace them if it has.
--
Daan
RE: 4.6 release
Posted by Paul Angus <pa...@shapeblue.com>.
http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
states:
'Warning
For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server packages must be build using “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation guide(s) anywhere.
Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages on cloudstack.apt-get.eu been built with?
And actually is there any difference between /rhel and /centos ?
Regards,
Paul Angus
VP Technology/Cloud Architect
ShapeBlue Ltd
S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
-----Original Message-----
From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
To: dev <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: 4.6 release
Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you would like to see instead so we can discuss.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <pa...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:
> Guys,
>
>
>
> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release
> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
>
> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the fact
> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
>
> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
>
> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be put front
> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO
> contain the noredist can be found.
>
> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for people to
> start using CloudStack.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> *Paul Angus*
>
>
> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
>
> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
>
> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
> paul.angus@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>
>
>
>
> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
> services
>
> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
> <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/> CloudStack Consulting
> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
> CloudStack Software Engineering
> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
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Re: 4.6 release
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes for what you would like to
see instead so we can discuss.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <pa...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:
> Guys,
>
>
>
> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve noticed that the release notes
> state that baseurl for 4.6 is http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
>
> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install information is the fact
> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
>
> 1. I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
>
> 2. If we’re going to do this then it needs to needs to be put front
> and center on the download links page with an explanation of the
> differences to save confusion. And a link to where rpms which DO contain
> the noredist can be found.
>
> It looks like we’re actively trying to make it difficult for people to
> start using CloudStack.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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