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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by NFN Smith <wo...@sacbeemail.com> on 2007/04/13 22:16:19 UTC
RDJ handling question
This one should be simple, but I'm not finding a quick answer..
Recently, I enabled updates of the SARE rules I run through
rules_du_jour. Updates are working fine, but there's a minor glitch in
handling the results.
Namely, I have my SARE rules in /etc/spamassassin, and the RDJ updates
are being delivered to /etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour. Thus, as far as I
can tell, the updated rules aren't being seen by SpamAssassin.
Is there a SA config setting update that I need to do to get SA to
include the contents of the RulesDuJour directory, or is there a tweak I
need to make in RDJ settings to deliver the updates to /etc/spamassassin?
TIA
Smith
Re: RDJ handling question
Posted by Anthony Peacock <a....@chime.ucl.ac.uk>.
NFN Smith wrote:
> Jake Vickers wrote:
>
>
>>>> [ "${TMPDIR}" ] || TMPDIR="${SA_DIR}/RulesDuJour"; # Where we store
>>>> old rulesets. If you delete
>
>> I'm not talking about editing the script. I am talking about the
>> config file. Do you have /etc/mail/rulesdujour/config ?
>>
>
> Yes, I know that.
>
> When I originally posted, I had nothing there, and the default value
> produced is /etc/spamassassin -- that's what I want. I explicitly
> defined /etc/spamassassin, but that doesn't change anything, because the
> rules_du_jour script is hard-coded, as quoted, to deliver to the
> RulesDuJour subdirectory below whatever SA_DIR has been set to. Even if
> I set SA_DIR to something to something totally unrelated (say,
> /home/testuser), the target would still be /home/testuser/RulesDuJour .
>
> At this point, RDJ is doing exactly what it's supposed to, and so my
> difficulty is simply in getting SA to read what's been produced. RDJ
> obviously assumes that SA will read from a subdirectory from the
> specified location, but my installation isn't doing that.
I don't think this is true.
I have stopped using RDJ and now use the SA-update channels. But when I
was using RDJ, I am sure that the script downloads to its TMPDIR and
runs some sanity checks, then copies the files into the SA directory.
Try running RDJ manually with debugging switched on.
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Re: RDJ handling question
Posted by NFN Smith <wo...@sacbeemail.com>.
Jake Vickers wrote:
>>> [ "${TMPDIR}" ] || TMPDIR="${SA_DIR}/RulesDuJour"; # Where we store old rulesets. If you delete
> I'm not talking about editing the script. I am talking about the config
> file. Do you have /etc/mail/rulesdujour/config ?
>
Yes, I know that.
When I originally posted, I had nothing there, and the default value
produced is /etc/spamassassin -- that's what I want. I explicitly
defined /etc/spamassassin, but that doesn't change anything, because the
rules_du_jour script is hard-coded, as quoted, to deliver to the
RulesDuJour subdirectory below whatever SA_DIR has been set to. Even if
I set SA_DIR to something to something totally unrelated (say,
/home/testuser), the target would still be /home/testuser/RulesDuJour .
At this point, RDJ is doing exactly what it's supposed to, and so my
difficulty is simply in getting SA to read what's been produced. RDJ
obviously assumes that SA will read from a subdirectory from the
specified location, but my installation isn't doing that.
Thus, I'm still trying to figure if there's a way to get SA to read the
subdirectory, or that I'm having to find a way to get the downloaded
files into /etc/spamassassin -- either by copying or as John Hardin has
suggested, doing symlinks.
It's not difficult to do either one (other than a few minutes worth of
setup work), it's just that would seem if RDJ hard-codes to a
sub-directory, then it's already expecting SA to read from that
directory, as soon as content is downloaded, without having to resort to
some measure of administrative post-processing.
Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it.
Regards,
Smith
Re: RDJ handling question
Posted by Jake Vickers <ja...@v2gnu.com>.
NFN Smith wrote:
> Jake Vickers wrote:
>
>> It's in your RDJ config file. My config is in /etc/rulesdujour/ and
>> the file is called "config". The line in question:
>> SA_DIR="/etc/mail/spamassassin"
>> That's where it should save the files it downloads.
>
> I checked the code of rules_du_jour, and the download is done to the
> location defined by ${TMPDIR} , which forces to the RulesDuJour
> subdirectory.
>
>> [ "${TMPDIR}" ] || TMPDIR="${SA_DIR}/RulesDuJour"; # Where we store
>> old rulesets. If you delete
I'm not talking about editing the script. I am talking about the config
file. Do you have /etc/mail/rulesdujour/config ?
Re: RDJ handling question
Posted by "John D. Hardin" <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, NFN Smith wrote:
> Is there a SA config setting I need to do to make SA check the
> RulesDuJour directory, or do I need to do something kludgy, such
> as adding my own scripting to do post-processing by copying
> updated rulesets from the RulesDuJour directory back to
> /etc/spamassassin, where SA will see them?
symlinks, perhaps?
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Re: RDJ handling question
Posted by NFN Smith <wo...@sacbeemail.com>.
Jake Vickers wrote:
> It's in your RDJ config file. My config is in /etc/rulesdujour/ and the
> file is called "config". The line in question:
> SA_DIR="/etc/mail/spamassassin"
> That's where it should save the files it downloads.
I checked the code of rules_du_jour, and the download is done to the
location defined by ${TMPDIR} , which forces to the RulesDuJour
subdirectory.
> [ "${TMPDIR}" ] || TMPDIR="${SA_DIR}/RulesDuJour"; # Where we store old rulesets. If you delete
On my box, ${SA_DIR} defaults to /etc/spamassassin, even if it's not
explicitly defined that way in the config file.
I can hack the code for the rules_du_jour script, to set wget to deliver
to ${SA_DIR} rather than ${TEMPDIR}, but there's numerous reasons not to
intentionally break a working script. The download is going where the
script writers intended it to go.
Thus, my problem isn't with RDJ, as I had originally thought, but with
SA itself. I have my rules from SARE located in /etc/spamassassin, RDJ
delivers updates to /etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour, and debug output of
SA shows that SA is only seeing the rules in /etc/spamassassin.
Is there a SA config setting I need to do to make SA check the
RulesDuJour directory, or do I need to do something kludgy, such as
adding my own scripting to do post-processing by copying updated
rulesets from the RulesDuJour directory back to /etc/spamassassin, where
SA will see them?
Smith
Re: RDJ handling question
Posted by Jake Vickers <ja...@v2gnu.com>.
NFN Smith wrote:
> This one should be simple, but I'm not finding a quick answer..
>
> Recently, I enabled updates of the SARE rules I run through
> rules_du_jour. Updates are working fine, but there's a minor glitch
> in handling the results.
>
> Namely, I have my SARE rules in /etc/spamassassin, and the RDJ updates
> are being delivered to /etc/spamassassin/RulesDuJour. Thus, as far as
> I can tell, the updated rules aren't being seen by SpamAssassin.
>
> Is there a SA config setting update that I need to do to get SA to
> include the contents of the RulesDuJour directory, or is there a tweak
> I need to make in RDJ settings to deliver the updates to
> /etc/spamassassin?
>
It's in your RDJ config file. My config is in /etc/rulesdujour/ and the
file is called "config". The line in question:
SA_DIR="/etc/mail/spamassassin"
That's where it should save the files it downloads.