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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by "Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org> on 2001/07/29 16:42:01 UTC

VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

Emir Alikadic (ADNOC IS&T) at ealikadic@adnoc.com wrote:
> 
> What is rude was his posting on the list in format other than plain text.
> Read the list's FAQ if you don't understand.

I believe _I_ wrote that list FAQ.

> The number of fancy-formatted messages is on the rise and if we don't nip
> this in the bud, we may find ourselves in a position where folks who don't
> use the latest version of $MAILCLIENT are unable to read the messages.  I
> myself use MS Outlook 2000 but I have no right to assume what the others are
> using.  Hence the warning in the FAQ.
> 
> This is not my first post on this topic and I'm afraid it won't be the last.
> I'm just trying to create awareness of the problem and I realise I sometimes
> have to resort to not-so-nice means to draw the subscribers' attention to
> it.  If I can convince one person not to use formatted messages on the list,
> I'll be a happy man.

Awareness is created by asking KINDLY "Can you please not post
HTML-formatted messages to the mailing list" more or less as you did on the
25th (even though I believe that the list of "offenders" is so ridiculous).

If you don't want to see HTML in messages, simply ask to get it removed by
the mailing list owner (whops ME!), as we did on several others...

> I don't claim to be an all-knowing guru, but what I do know I will not share
> with those who are arrogant enough not to respect the rules of the list
> they're asking for help from.

Ok then, try to be a little bit more polite and respectful or just shut up.




One thing I can ask to you guys is, do you want me to strip HTML out of your
messages and reject emails only with HTML content type? Plenary vote open
until 11:59 PM GMT of Monday 07/30/2001.

[ ] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.
[ ]  0 -> I don't give a damn shit.
[ ] -1 -> You mad? I love HTML in messages and want to keep using it.

Thanks :)

    Pier


Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness

Posted by Tim O'Neil <bw...@noteboard.org>.
At 09:44 AM 7/29/2001, you wrote:
>On 29 Jul 2001 15:42:01 +0100, Pier P. Fumagalli wrote:
>
> > One thing I can ask to you guys is, do you want me to strip HTML out of 
> your
> > messages and reject emails only with HTML content type? Plenary vote open
> > until 11:59 PM GMT of Monday 07/30/2001.
> >
>
>[X] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.

If the above means "Yeah, do that, strip out the html" I have
nothing but love for that move.


Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness

Posted by Ramsés Morales <ra...@computer.org>.
On 29 Jul 2001 15:42:01 +0100, Pier P. Fumagalli wrote:

> One thing I can ask to you guys is, do you want me to strip HTML out of your
> messages and reject emails only with HTML content type? Plenary vote open
> until 11:59 PM GMT of Monday 07/30/2001.
> 

[X] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.



Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridgeon linux)

Posted by Stuart Thomson <st...@swtsoft.demon.co.uk>.
+1

Re: HTML in Messages and politeness

Posted by Jeff Kilbride <je...@kilbride.com>.
> [X]  0 -> I don't give a damn shit.

I do, however, agree with the points on politeness.

I think if you reject HTML-only messages, a lot of new subscribers are not
going to be able to figure out why they can't post to the list. Most
probably don't even realize they are doing it, since the newer email clients
default that way.

"How do I turn off HTML formatting?" might be a good addition to the FAQ and
the auto-generated email that goes out when you sign up, if it's not already
there.

Thanks,
--jeff



Re: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridgeon linux)

Posted by German Alvarado <ge...@mapasydatos.com>.
> [X] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.

That would be nice,

German


Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

Posted by David Smith <dn...@cornell.edu>.
On Sunday 29 July 2001 10:42 am, you wrote:

[snip...]
> One thing I can ask to you guys is, do you want me to strip HTML out of
> your messages and reject emails only with HTML content type? Plenary vote
> open until 11:59 PM GMT of Monday 07/30/2001.
>

>  [ >X<] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.

> [ ]  0 -> I don't give a damn shit.
> [ ] -1 -> You mad? I love HTML in messages and want to keep using it.
>

I'd emphasize it more if I could.  HTML also comes with it's share of 
security headaches for those with HTML enabled email clients.

 
----------------------------------------------------
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Network Operations Supervisor
Cornell University Department of Entomology
2121 Comstock Hall
Ithaca, NY  14853
Phone: (607) 255-9571
Fax: (607) 255-0939
Email: dns4@cornell.edu

Re: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridgeon linux)

Posted by Matt Dilley <ma...@coins.net>.
> [X] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.
> [ ]  0 -> I don't give a damn shit.
> [ ] -1 -> You mad? I love HTML in messages and want to keep using it.

Could I suggest that if people want to post HTML, they could do so in an
attachment?
That way maybe it should keep everyone happy

Thanks

Matt


Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness

Posted by Kurt Bernhard Pruenner <le...@gmx.at>.
"Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote:
> [X] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.

After all, HTML in mails is just plain evil...

-- 
Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria
.......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N".......
np: Burnt Friedman - Platin Tundra (Con Ritmo)

RE: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridgeon linux)

Posted by Aravind Naidu <ar...@eha.net>.
+1



Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

Posted by "Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org>.
Pier P. Fumagalli at pier@betaversion.org wrote:

> Pier P. Fumagalli at pier@betaversion.org wrote:
>> 
>> [ ] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.
>> [ ]  0 -> I don't give a damn shit.
>> [ ] -1 -> You mad? I love HTML in messages and want to keep using it.
> 
> We got more than 20 +1s, a couple of 0s, and no -1. So I asked root to
> modify the mailing list...
> I'll keep you updated on how this is going to happen (maybe few hours, maybe
> few days!) :)

This is going the last message with HTML enabled on the mailing list. :)
Remember to modify your settings :) Those are the rejected stuff:
 - text/html
 - text/rtf
 - text/enriched
 - text/x-vcard

    Pier


Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

Posted by "Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org>.
Pier P. Fumagalli at pier@betaversion.org wrote:
> 
> [ ] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.
> [ ]  0 -> I don't give a damn shit.
> [ ] -1 -> You mad? I love HTML in messages and want to keep using it.

We got more than 20 +1s, a couple of 0s, and no -1. So I asked root to
modify the mailing list...
I'll keep you updated on how this is going to happen (maybe few hours, maybe
few days!) :)

    Pier