[Fwd: Re: Making Daffodil Replicator an Open Source : Suggestion]

[Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org>]

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> From: Simon Kitching <si...@ecnetwork.co.nz>
> To: community@apache.org
> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org, general@jakarta.apache.org, general@db.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Making Daffodil Replicator an Open Source : Suggestion
> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 13:10:17 +1200
> 
> On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 05:20, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> > Ashish Srivastava wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > We are a product based company named Daffodil Software Ltd, based in
> > > India. We have developed many good products using JAVA out of which our
> > > two premium product Daffodil DB (an RDBMS) and Daffodil Replicator
> > > (database utility software) is largely accepted by world software
> > > community.
> > > 
> > > We are planning to make our Daffodil Replicator an open source project.
> > > 
> > > How can we make it with www.apache.org please let us know how we have to
> > > proceed.
> > > 
> > > I visited at http://incubator.apache.org but unable to find the answer
> > > how to proceed in order to make our product open source. 
> > 
> > I'm cross-posting to lists where there might be interest in helping you 
> > out on this.
> > 
> > > www.daffodildb.com
> 
> Hi Ashish,
> 
> The following is just my personal opinion, as a member of the ASF
> (Apache Software Foundation); I am not speaking on behalf of the ASF.
> 
> I think it is great that you are considering releasing some of your code
> under an open-source licence. I am sure there are a number of people
> that are willing to offer advice on the process of releasing your code
> as open-source. And if you do this, you are certainly welcome to reuse
> the Apache Public License legal document as the base for the license
> terms you release your code under; the ASF and its legal advisors
> deliberately designed the license in a way that makes it easy for
> non-ASF-hosted projects to use.
> 
> However if you are suggesting that the code you release may be hosted
> and maintained by the Apache Software Foundation, I personally think
> this is unlikely to happen.
> 
> Firstly, the code you are considering releasing under an open-source
> licence is an add-on to a proprietory product. The ASF is unlikely to
> consider adopting that kind of project. This doesn't mean that making
> the code open-source is a bad idea, it's just something that the ASF
> usually avoids being involved with.
> 
> Secondly when the ASF adopts existing code, the provider of the code is
> expected to show evidence that there is a group of developers willing to
> continue maintenance and development of the code in the future. Apache
> doesn't want to end up hosting lots of code with no associated
> developers. Given that the code you are considering releasing can only
> be used with a proprietory database which does not have a large market
> share, I think this will be a difficult thing for the Daffodil
> Replicator project to demonstrate.
> 
> If your replicator tool can actually replicate data for multiple
> different brands of database then please let us know; that would make
> the project much more interesting, and therefore more likely to obtain
> an adequate pool of developers. In particular, if it could be used with
> the IBM "CloudScape" product which has recently been offered by IBM and
> accepted by the ASF (and to be renamed "Derby" I believe), there could
> be significant interest. The result could well be an improved replicator
> for both Derby and Daffodil - but only if the architecture of your
> current code is not too tightly bound to the Daffodil database.
> 
> If you are interested in discussing this further, then please describe
> what Daffodil Software expects to gain by outsourcing this software.
> There are a number of different open-source licences available, and
> which one is appropriate depends upon the business strategy of Daffodil.
> The ASF always uses the apache license, which is a "BSD-like" license,
> but there are many successful open-source projects that use a different
> approach. You may wish to investigate MySQL and JBoss as alternative
> business models.
> 
> As I am sure you are aware, the ASF is not the only way to make code
> open-source. You can always host the source code and associated
> development framework (newsgroups, email lists, etc) on your own site,
> or use the SourceForge site. If you let us know a little more about the
> business goals of Daffodil Software we may be able to offer better
> advice.
> 
> Disclaimer: No responsibility is taken for any consequences of you or
> your company acting on any statements made in this email.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Simon
> 
> PS: Sorry for the wide cross-posting. Nicola's reply suggested this
> topic may be of interest to all these groups..
> 
> PPS: Nicola, I hope Ashish is actually subscribed to one of the lists
> receiving this email. If this is not the case, could you please forward
> this email. Thanks.


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