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Posted to dev@chukwa.apache.org by Eric Yang <ey...@yahoo-inc.com> on 2009/10/03 03:11:06 UTC
Cloudera Desktop
This is the Cloudera Desktop demo for the Web based management UI. It is
more into tasks oriented functions instead of system monitoring.
>
> http://www.cloudera.com/desktop
Cloudera Desktop has similar use cases that I envisioned for chukwa. The
only difference is the UI model. There are many element aren¹t scalable in
their model. For example, the system monitoring are showing as grid of
green and red lights. It probably won¹t scale beyond 200 nodes. Chukwa has
visualization and summarization of the system state in heatmap. Which
provides much more useful visualization for large scale cluster. Something
to think about.
Regards,
Eric
Re: Cloudera Desktop
Posted by Jeff Hammerbacher <ha...@cloudera.com>.
Hey Jiaqi,
Thanks for the questions. In the future, could you please use
http://tiny.cloudera.com/desktop-feedback for questions about the product?
Anyways, here are the answers:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Jiaqi Tan <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1. Are there plans to open-source, or provide an API, to Cloudera Desktop?
>
The window manager and several other Javascript components are already open
source through MooTools More; see http://github.com/anutron/art, for
example. The Cloudera Desktop basic framework will not be open source. There
is a rough API right now that we're polishing up for some early alpha
testers. If you'd be interested in developing on Cloudera Desktop, drop a
line to desktop-api-subscribe@cloudera.com, and we'll be in touch some time
in the next few months.
>
> 2. Will the Job Designer plug into Oozie/does it already do that right now?
>
The version of Oozie available in the public domain does not work for us
after several weeks of tinkering. We have many customers running complex
workflows using similar tools already, and whatever solution we provide in
this domain we hope to make work with Oozie as well.
Thanks,
Jeff
>
> Jiaqi
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Jeff Hammerbacher <ha...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> > Hey Eric,
> > Thanks for the feedback! At Cloudera, we use Get Satisfaction for
> customer
> > comments; in the future, we'd love to have you post to
> > http://getsatisfaction.com/cloudera/products/cloudera_cloudera_desktopwith
> > your feedback on the product.
> >
> > I agree that large clusters require different visualization techniques
> than
> > small clusters. The Desktop metaphor will allow anyone to build system
> > monitoring applications that target specific scenarios, e.g. very large
> > clusters. The UI design for the Cluster Health dashboard that we shipped
> on
> > Friday is one take on system monitoring and is intended to provide
> increased
> > utility for the vast majority of Hadoop clusters we see in practice,
> which
> > are under 200 nodes.
> >
> > We're certainly looking forward to folks breaking Cloudera Desktop in all
> > sorts of ways and iterating on the product until we get it right.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Eric Yang <ey...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This is the Cloudera Desktop demo for the Web based management UI. It is
> >> more into tasks oriented functions instead of system monitoring.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.cloudera.com/desktop
> >>
> >> Cloudera Desktop has similar use cases that I envisioned for chukwa.
> The
> >> only difference is the UI model. There are many element aren¹t scalable
> in
> >> their model. For example, the system monitoring are showing as grid of
> >> green and red lights. It probably won¹t scale beyond 200 nodes. Chukwa
> >> has
> >> visualization and summarization of the system state in heatmap. Which
> >> provides much more useful visualization for large scale cluster.
> Something
> >> to think about.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Eric
> >>
> >>
> >
>
Re: Cloudera Desktop
Posted by Jiaqi Tan <ta...@gmail.com>.
Hi Jeff,
Two questions:
1. Are there plans to open-source, or provide an API, to Cloudera Desktop?
2. Will the Job Designer plug into Oozie/does it already do that right now?
Jiaqi
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Jeff Hammerbacher <ha...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Hey Eric,
> Thanks for the feedback! At Cloudera, we use Get Satisfaction for customer
> comments; in the future, we'd love to have you post to
> http://getsatisfaction.com/cloudera/products/cloudera_cloudera_desktop with
> your feedback on the product.
>
> I agree that large clusters require different visualization techniques than
> small clusters. The Desktop metaphor will allow anyone to build system
> monitoring applications that target specific scenarios, e.g. very large
> clusters. The UI design for the Cluster Health dashboard that we shipped on
> Friday is one take on system monitoring and is intended to provide increased
> utility for the vast majority of Hadoop clusters we see in practice, which
> are under 200 nodes.
>
> We're certainly looking forward to folks breaking Cloudera Desktop in all
> sorts of ways and iterating on the product until we get it right.
>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Eric Yang <ey...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>
>> This is the Cloudera Desktop demo for the Web based management UI. It is
>> more into tasks oriented functions instead of system monitoring.
>> >
>> > http://www.cloudera.com/desktop
>>
>> Cloudera Desktop has similar use cases that I envisioned for chukwa. The
>> only difference is the UI model. There are many element aren¹t scalable in
>> their model. For example, the system monitoring are showing as grid of
>> green and red lights. It probably won¹t scale beyond 200 nodes. Chukwa
>> has
>> visualization and summarization of the system state in heatmap. Which
>> provides much more useful visualization for large scale cluster. Something
>> to think about.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eric
>>
>>
>
Re: Cloudera Desktop
Posted by Jeff Hammerbacher <ha...@cloudera.com>.
Hey Eric,
Thanks for the feedback! At Cloudera, we use Get Satisfaction for customer
comments; in the future, we'd love to have you post to
http://getsatisfaction.com/cloudera/products/cloudera_cloudera_desktop with
your feedback on the product.
I agree that large clusters require different visualization techniques than
small clusters. The Desktop metaphor will allow anyone to build system
monitoring applications that target specific scenarios, e.g. very large
clusters. The UI design for the Cluster Health dashboard that we shipped on
Friday is one take on system monitoring and is intended to provide increased
utility for the vast majority of Hadoop clusters we see in practice, which
are under 200 nodes.
We're certainly looking forward to folks breaking Cloudera Desktop in all
sorts of ways and iterating on the product until we get it right.
Regards,
Jeff
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Eric Yang <ey...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
> This is the Cloudera Desktop demo for the Web based management UI. It is
> more into tasks oriented functions instead of system monitoring.
> >
> > http://www.cloudera.com/desktop
>
> Cloudera Desktop has similar use cases that I envisioned for chukwa. The
> only difference is the UI model. There are many element aren¹t scalable in
> their model. For example, the system monitoring are showing as grid of
> green and red lights. It probably won¹t scale beyond 200 nodes. Chukwa
> has
> visualization and summarization of the system state in heatmap. Which
> provides much more useful visualization for large scale cluster. Something
> to think about.
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>
>