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Posted to users@flex.apache.org by "kevin.godell" <ke...@gmail.com> on 2015/04/19 19:53:08 UTC

flex ide advice needed for new mac user

I just picked up the latest entry level macbook pro yesterday and will be
trying to set up a development environment for flex mobile apps. I have only
used flash builder on a windows pc making desktop and mobile apps as a
hobby. I have virtually no experience using mac products and need some
advice. 

-What flex IDEs are available for mac, other than flash builder or intellij?

-Does intellij have all of the same features as flash builder, or is it
lacking or superior in some way?

-If I choose flash builder, is it better to get a standalone license or
subscribe to adobe creative cloud?

Any advice or feedback is welcome.



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Re: flex ide advice needed for new mac user

Posted by Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>.

Hey Kevin,

I am using FB4.7 and have exactly the same problem here. Because of the big size
of the project and each component, I use the <fx:Script…

In FB I have a lot of yellow warnings. It seems that sometimes the as file can not find
the mxml file. So I close the as file and click in the mxml file on a function that leads
me into the as file (press cmd + mouse click). So it opens the as again and all
warnings are away. Maybe you can try this in IntelliJ. I know this is very frustrating.

Because of this problem, I thought of switching from FB to IntelliJ. But, when
this problem also occurs in IntelliJ, I maybe wait a little bit.

It’s very challenging to develop software without any errors, when the
IDE itself produces a lot of errors. ;-)

Thanks

Marcus

> Am 04.05.2015 um 15:13 schrieb kevin.godell <ke...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Well, I am slowly getting used to the macbook environment, and trying
> Intellij for the first time has been a challenge. It is definitely different
> than FB. At first, I did not like it. But after learning the shortcuts and
> tweaking some of the editor settings, I must say that Intellij is pretty
> great. I think they will be getting my money.
> 
> One little issue I had was using the script source, such as <fx:Script
> source="Main.as"/>. I used to think think it was good to keep a separate .as
> file to keep the code organized, but it seems that Intellij has some trouble
> with that setup[0] with a known bug[1]. Or maybe I am doing something wrong.
> Does anybody else use the Script source property without trouble? Or do you
> just put your code inside of the Script tags inside of the CDATA?
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. Your help is truly appreciated.
> 
> [0]http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14046352/using-intellij-idea-12-for-flex-development
> [1]https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-52598
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AW: flex ide advice needed for new mac user

Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.

I have to admit that I didn't know about that option, googling a little, I found out that it's the equivalent to the "include" in an .as file. Have to admit that even if I agree that this allows to separate code fragments easily, it's a pain to maintain as you never know the context the include is used in. That's why no IDE will be able to provide sensible code-assist here ... it simply can't know where it's used and even if it does, there is no guarantee that when including it somewhere else, it will not work. In order to have such a feedback the IDE would have to track the usages and provide feedback per usage ... sort of like when used by a.b.c.d.MyTest1 the property x is already defined, when imported in a.b.c.d.MyTest2 a method called "doSomething" is already defined (Don't think I would like an IDE with such a feature)

If you want to separate your code from the markup, I would suggest to create an AS class that extends the root type of your mxml and then to use that new component as root in your mxml. There the context is clear and the IDEs will be able to help you.

Chris

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Von: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Mai 2015 11:04
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Well I usually put the code inline, but I use .as files in favor of .mxml wherever I can and wherever it makes sense.

Chris

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Von: kevin.godell <ke...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 4. Mai 2015 15:13
An: users@flex.apache.org
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Well, I am slowly getting used to the macbook environment, and trying
Intellij for the first time has been a challenge. It is definitely different
than FB. At first, I did not like it. But after learning the shortcuts and
tweaking some of the editor settings, I must say that Intellij is pretty
great. I think they will be getting my money.

One little issue I had was using the script source, such as <fx:Script
source="Main.as"/>. I used to think think it was good to keep a separate .as
file to keep the code organized, but it seems that Intellij has some trouble
with that setup[0] with a known bug[1]. Or maybe I am doing something wrong.
Does anybody else use the Script source property without trouble? Or do you
just put your code inside of the Script tags inside of the CDATA?

Thanks for the feedback. Your help is truly appreciated.

[0]http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14046352/using-intellij-idea-12-for-flex-development
[1]https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-52598

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AW: flex ide advice needed for new mac user

Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.

Well I usually put the code inline, but I use .as files in favor of .mxml wherever I can and wherever it makes sense.

Chris

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Gesendet: Montag, 4. Mai 2015 15:13
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Thanks for the feedback. Your help is truly appreciated.

[0]http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14046352/using-intellij-idea-12-for-flex-development
[1]https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-52598

Re: flex ide advice needed for new mac user

Posted by "kevin.godell" <ke...@gmail.com>.

Well, I am slowly getting used to the macbook environment, and trying
Intellij for the first time has been a challenge. It is definitely different
than FB. At first, I did not like it. But after learning the shortcuts and
tweaking some of the editor settings, I must say that Intellij is pretty
great. I think they will be getting my money.

One little issue I had was using the script source, such as <fx:Script
source="Main.as"/>. I used to think think it was good to keep a separate .as
file to keep the code organized, but it seems that Intellij has some trouble
with that setup[0] with a known bug[1]. Or maybe I am doing something wrong.
Does anybody else use the Script source property without trouble? Or do you
just put your code inside of the Script tags inside of the CDATA?

Thanks for the feedback. Your help is truly appreciated.

[0]http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14046352/using-intellij-idea-12-for-flex-development 
[1]https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-52598



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AW: flex ide advice needed for new mac user

Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.

Hi,

Well even if I support your opinion about IntelliJ,
to be fair you should mention some things that IntelliJ doesn't have, what FB provides:
- UI Editor (even if that used to crash in FB almost every time I used it)
- Built in Profiler (Not really an issue as I think Adobe Scout is way better anyway) 
- Built in generator for BlazeDS (Never used that)

As I am building my applications with Maven (Flexmojos) I can confirm that
since I moved to IntelliJ a lot of years ago, things have become more and more easy.
And the support is sensational :-)

Chris

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Von: piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 20. April 2015 06:50
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 Hi Kevin,

I can only answer for, a question about intellij. I've been working on a
flex mobile app year ago using intellij. I could tel you with full
responsibility that Intellij was a way better than Flash Builder. Everything
was faster, intuitive and all things which is in FB you have in Intellij. :)

Really recommend this IDE, belive me you won't regret. :)
Somwhere on this list were discussion about FB vs. Intellij you can find
more information there.

Piotr




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Re: flex ide advice needed for new mac user

Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.

 Hi Kevin,

I can only answer for, a question about intellij. I've been working on a
flex mobile app year ago using intellij. I could tel you with full
responsibility that Intellij was a way better than Flash Builder. Everything
was faster, intuitive and all things which is in FB you have in Intellij. :) 

Really recommend this IDE, belive me you won't regret. :) 
Somwhere on this list were discussion about FB vs. Intellij you can find
more information there. 

Piotr




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Re: flex ide advice needed for new mac user

Posted by Justin Ransom Dallas <ju...@gmail.com>.

FlashBuilder hasn't really been updated in a very long time.  I remember I
would end up with serious and frustrating issues whereby my settings such
as accessibility were outright ignored when using FB4.7.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:53 PM, kevin.godell <ke...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I just picked up the latest entry level macbook pro yesterday and will be
> trying to set up a development environment for flex mobile apps. I have
> only
> used flash builder on a windows pc making desktop and mobile apps as a
> hobby. I have virtually no experience using mac products and need some
> advice.
>
> -What flex IDEs are available for mac, other than flash builder or
> intellij?
>
> -Does intellij have all of the same features as flash builder, or is it
> lacking or superior in some way?
>
> -If I choose flash builder, is it better to get a standalone license or
> subscribe to adobe creative cloud?
>
> Any advice or feedback is welcome.
>
>
>
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