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Posted to dev@wicket.apache.org by Neeme Praks <ne...@apache.org> on 2007/02/01 18:51:38 UTC
WML support in Wicket?
Reposting, as at least developers mailing list seems to have moved.
Also, it would be useful to add at least link to
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wicket-dev/ on
http://incubator.apache.org/wicket/
I also sent request to gmane.org to start collecting e-mails from new
location.
Please keep me on CC, when you reply, I'm not subscribed to the list (I
prefer gmane).
Neeme
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: WML support in Wicket?
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:08:10 +0200
From: Neeme Praks <ne...@apache.org>
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.java.wicket.devel
Hi,
I'm in the process of evaluating different web application development
frameworks for my day job and I came across Wicket.
As a background info, my requirements are (in brief):
* component based development with packaging (JAR up components) -
here I mainly mean UI components or "web application features"
* easy i18n and l10n
* fairly easy skinnability, output customization for different
customers (application logic stays the same but design and even links
can change)
* support for rich clients (HTML+AJAX) and "thin clients" (WML and
XHTML Basic)
* template and java logic separation
Overall, Wicket seems to be a good fit.
My main concern is about "thin client" support - in Wicket source code,
I see only references to HTML. In documentation, I have also seen
references to XML, so I guess it can render WML as well. However, what
I'm looking for is not just rendering capability but full support for
WML UI components as well (input-output) - what is the level of
dependency between wicket.markup.html.* classes and actual HTML markup?
In principle, WML is pretty much like stripped down HTML - it has
textboxes, radio buttons, checkboxes, etc. Just the markup looks
different and has its own quirks. So I wonder, in case I want to use
Wicket to render WML and handle input from WML, do I need to
(re)implement all the relevant components in wicket.markup.html.*
package for WML? Or are the existing HTML components actually abstract
enough so they can also be used for WML?
I searched the list archives and I saw that similar (albeit in much
shorter form) question has been asked also before (in September 2005)
but then the question was never answered.
Also, I've seen in TSS discussions that in principle it is possible to
add WML support to Wicket, "there just has not been enough interest".
So, in short, what I'm asking here: how much effort would it take to add
WML support to Wicket?
Rgds,
Neeme
Re: WML support in Wicket?
Posted by Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>.
i think some things you will be able to reuse, probably not all. if anything
we will be happy to extract some abstract base components if you hit a
roadblock.
-igor
On 2/1/07, Neeme Praks <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Reposting, as at least developers mailing list seems to have moved.
> Also, it would be useful to add at least link to
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wicket-dev/ on
> http://incubator.apache.org/wicket/
> I also sent request to gmane.org to start collecting e-mails from new
> location.
>
> Please keep me on CC, when you reply, I'm not subscribed to the list (I
> prefer gmane).
>
> Neeme
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: WML support in Wicket?
> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:08:10 +0200
> From: Neeme Praks <ne...@apache.org>
> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.java.wicket.devel
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of evaluating different web application development
> frameworks for my day job and I came across Wicket.
>
> As a background info, my requirements are (in brief):
> * component based development with packaging (JAR up components) -
> here I mainly mean UI components or "web application features"
> * easy i18n and l10n
> * fairly easy skinnability, output customization for different
> customers (application logic stays the same but design and even links
> can change)
> * support for rich clients (HTML+AJAX) and "thin clients" (WML and
> XHTML Basic)
> * template and java logic separation
>
> Overall, Wicket seems to be a good fit.
> My main concern is about "thin client" support - in Wicket source code,
> I see only references to HTML. In documentation, I have also seen
> references to XML, so I guess it can render WML as well. However, what
> I'm looking for is not just rendering capability but full support for
> WML UI components as well (input-output) - what is the level of
> dependency between wicket.markup.html.* classes and actual HTML markup?
>
> In principle, WML is pretty much like stripped down HTML - it has
> textboxes, radio buttons, checkboxes, etc. Just the markup looks
> different and has its own quirks. So I wonder, in case I want to use
> Wicket to render WML and handle input from WML, do I need to
> (re)implement all the relevant components in wicket.markup.html.*
> package for WML? Or are the existing HTML components actually abstract
> enough so they can also be used for WML?
>
> I searched the list archives and I saw that similar (albeit in much
> shorter form) question has been asked also before (in September 2005)
> but then the question was never answered.
>
> Also, I've seen in TSS discussions that in principle it is possible to
> add WML support to Wicket, "there just has not been enough interest".
>
> So, in short, what I'm asking here: how much effort would it take to add
> WML support to Wicket?
>
> Rgds,
> Neeme
>
>
>
Re: WML support in Wicket?
Posted by Juergen Donnerstag <ju...@gmail.com>.
I remember that about a year ago someone has create WML.with Wicket.
The old sourceforge mail archive might contain some information
Juergen
On 2/1/07, Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So, in short, what I'm asking here: how much effort would it take to add
> > WML support to Wicket?
>
> Not sure. I think if you know WML good already, it shouldn't be too
> much work, and you would have our support when it comes to the
> framework facilitating this (in case some abstractions miss).
>
> I think the best thing to do is give it a try for a few days and see
> where you end up. Keep us informed!
>
> Eelco
>
Re: WML support in Wicket?
Posted by Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com>.
> So, in short, what I'm asking here: how much effort would it take to add
> WML support to Wicket?
Not sure. I think if you know WML good already, it shouldn't be too
much work, and you would have our support when it comes to the
framework facilitating this (in case some abstractions miss).
I think the best thing to do is give it a try for a few days and see
where you end up. Keep us informed!
Eelco