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Posted to dev@ace.apache.org by Brian Topping <to...@codehaus.org> on 2009/11/25 15:49:02 UTC
Maven Ace
Hi gang,
I've been speaking to Marcel for the couple weeks since ACUS about
getting on board with a Maven build for Ace, it's great to see there's
a complete army of folks that also have the same idea!
My analysis so far is probably not farther than Jean Baptiste's, but I
would agree with Toni that we could start a github to get things
going. I'm suspecting that the folder moves that will be required are
all going to be easily practical after creating the POM(s).
I'll move the discussion over to the Jira issue though.
Cheers, B
Re: Maven Ace
Posted by Brian Topping <to...@codehaus.org>.
Hi Jean-Baptiste,
It all works fine for me. I have a bunch of repos as well, was just
trying to keep everything neutral. Maybe I have too much "politically
correct" in me though :-)
Cheers, Brian
On Nov 25, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Toni, Brian (and the others :)),
>
> if you want, to work together on the maven build, I can temporary
> share the project on my own svn repo (svn.nanthrax.net). It can
> allow to speed up our work waiting the commitership.
>
> What do you think ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> Toni Menzel wrote:
>> Looks like a good start. Actually i think one has to start and
>> offer (at
>> least) a clean maven based ACE Core build. Flat structure, one
>> multimodule
>> pom. maven-bundle-plugin in place.
>> Thoughts on GAV:
>> GroupId: org.apache.ace
>> ArtifactId: ace-core-repository (and accordingly)
>> Version: 0.8.0-SNAPSHOT
>> Why 0.8.0-SNASPHOT ? Ok, ace is not entirely new (many commerical
>> deployments) + seeks a 1.0 with graduation (marcel, just thinking
>> out of
>> thin air to kickstart discussion). It does not really matter
>> anyhow. Just to
>> have something.
>> @Marcel: Are we going into trouble when working on this outside of
>> apache
>> first and contribute the whole thing (if apropriate and workable) ?
>> Talking about IP Clearance and stuff.
>> Toni
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Brian Topping
>> <to...@codehaus.org> wrote:
>>> Oops, it appears that the existing Maven issue is regarding an
>>> integration
>>> of the existing Ant script against the Maven repositories when I
>>> think what
>>> we're after is a reconstruction of the build under Maven, without
>>> using Ant.
>>>
>>> I've started an issue at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACE-62
>>> , and
>>> in agreement with Toni's suggestion, started a Github repository at
>>> http://github.com/topping/Apache-Ace-Mavenization. Jean-Baptiste,
>>> would
>>> you like to kick things off with your existing POM? I suspect
>>> yours is
>>> further along than mine, and I don't want to frustrate your
>>> efforts by
>>> checking mine in first.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Brian Topping wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi gang,
>>>> I've been speaking to Marcel for the couple weeks since ACUS
>>>> about getting
>>>> on board with a Maven build for Ace, it's great to see there's a
>>>> complete
>>>> army of folks that also have the same idea!
>>>>
>>>> My analysis so far is probably not farther than Jean Baptiste's,
>>>> but I
>>>> would agree with Toni that we could start a github to get things
>>>> going. I'm
>>>> suspecting that the folder moves that will be required are all
>>>> going to be
>>>> easily practical after creating the POM(s).
>>>>
>>>> I'll move the discussion over to the Jira issue though.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, B
>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: Maven Ace
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Toni, Brian (and the others :)),
if you want, to work together on the maven build, I can temporary share
the project on my own svn repo (svn.nanthrax.net). It can allow to speed
up our work waiting the commitership.
What do you think ?
Regards
JB
Toni Menzel wrote:
> Looks like a good start. Actually i think one has to start and offer (at
> least) a clean maven based ACE Core build. Flat structure, one multimodule
> pom. maven-bundle-plugin in place.
> Thoughts on GAV:
> GroupId: org.apache.ace
> ArtifactId: ace-core-repository (and accordingly)
> Version: 0.8.0-SNAPSHOT
>
> Why 0.8.0-SNASPHOT ? Ok, ace is not entirely new (many commerical
> deployments) + seeks a 1.0 with graduation (marcel, just thinking out of
> thin air to kickstart discussion). It does not really matter anyhow. Just to
> have something.
>
> @Marcel: Are we going into trouble when working on this outside of apache
> first and contribute the whole thing (if apropriate and workable) ?
> Talking about IP Clearance and stuff.
>
> Toni
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Brian Topping <to...@codehaus.org> wrote:
>
>> Oops, it appears that the existing Maven issue is regarding an integration
>> of the existing Ant script against the Maven repositories when I think what
>> we're after is a reconstruction of the build under Maven, without using Ant.
>>
>> I've started an issue at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACE-62, and
>> in agreement with Toni's suggestion, started a Github repository at
>> http://github.com/topping/Apache-Ace-Mavenization. Jean-Baptiste, would
>> you like to kick things off with your existing POM? I suspect yours is
>> further along than mine, and I don't want to frustrate your efforts by
>> checking mine in first.
>>
>> Cheers, Brian
>>
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Brian Topping wrote:
>>
>> Hi gang,
>>> I've been speaking to Marcel for the couple weeks since ACUS about getting
>>> on board with a Maven build for Ace, it's great to see there's a complete
>>> army of folks that also have the same idea!
>>>
>>> My analysis so far is probably not farther than Jean Baptiste's, but I
>>> would agree with Toni that we could start a github to get things going. I'm
>>> suspecting that the folder moves that will be required are all going to be
>>> easily practical after creating the POM(s).
>>>
>>> I'll move the discussion over to the Jira issue though.
>>>
>>> Cheers, B
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: Maven Ace
Posted by Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com> wrote:
> Looks like a good start. Actually i think one has to start and offer (at
> least) a clean maven based ACE Core build. Flat structure, one multimodule
> pom. maven-bundle-plugin in place.
> Thoughts on GAV:
> GroupId: org.apache.ace
> ArtifactId: ace-core-repository (and accordingly)
> Version: 0.8.0-SNAPSHOT
>
> Why 0.8.0-SNASPHOT ? Ok, ace is not entirely new (many commerical
> deployments) + seeks a 1.0 with graduation (marcel, just thinking out of
> thin air to kickstart discussion). It does not really matter anyhow. Just to
> have something.
>
> @Marcel: Are we going into trouble when working on this outside of apache
> first and contribute the whole thing (if apropriate and workable) ?
> Talking about IP Clearance and stuff.
Depends. If it is not too big a patch then attaching it to JIRA might
be enough. If there are several people working on it and it becomes a
substantial patch then we will need at least an icla (ccla if
applicable) and a grant from the people involved.
regards,
Karl
> Toni
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Brian Topping <to...@codehaus.org> wrote:
>
>> Oops, it appears that the existing Maven issue is regarding an integration
>> of the existing Ant script against the Maven repositories when I think what
>> we're after is a reconstruction of the build under Maven, without using Ant.
>>
>> I've started an issue at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACE-62, and
>> in agreement with Toni's suggestion, started a Github repository at
>> http://github.com/topping/Apache-Ace-Mavenization. Jean-Baptiste, would
>> you like to kick things off with your existing POM? I suspect yours is
>> further along than mine, and I don't want to frustrate your efforts by
>> checking mine in first.
>>
>> Cheers, Brian
>>
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Brian Topping wrote:
>>
>> Hi gang,
>>>
>>> I've been speaking to Marcel for the couple weeks since ACUS about getting
>>> on board with a Maven build for Ace, it's great to see there's a complete
>>> army of folks that also have the same idea!
>>>
>>> My analysis so far is probably not farther than Jean Baptiste's, but I
>>> would agree with Toni that we could start a github to get things going. I'm
>>> suspecting that the folder moves that will be required are all going to be
>>> easily practical after creating the POM(s).
>>>
>>> I'll move the discussion over to the Jira issue though.
>>>
>>> Cheers, B
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Toni Menzel
> Independent Software Developer
> Professional Profile: http://okidokiteam.com
> toni@okidokiteam.com
> http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open
> Participation Software.
>
--
Karl Pauls
karlpauls@gmail.com
Re: Maven Ace
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Toni,
Agree with you, it's exactly that I have done excepted the version number.
I will try to send you the POMs patch later tonight.
Regards
JB
Toni Menzel wrote:
> Looks like a good start. Actually i think one has to start and offer (at
> least) a clean maven based ACE Core build. Flat structure, one multimodule
> pom. maven-bundle-plugin in place.
> Thoughts on GAV:
> GroupId: org.apache.ace
> ArtifactId: ace-core-repository (and accordingly)
> Version: 0.8.0-SNAPSHOT
>
> Why 0.8.0-SNASPHOT ? Ok, ace is not entirely new (many commerical
> deployments) + seeks a 1.0 with graduation (marcel, just thinking out of
> thin air to kickstart discussion). It does not really matter anyhow. Just to
> have something.
>
> @Marcel: Are we going into trouble when working on this outside of apache
> first and contribute the whole thing (if apropriate and workable) ?
> Talking about IP Clearance and stuff.
>
> Toni
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Brian Topping <to...@codehaus.org> wrote:
>
>> Oops, it appears that the existing Maven issue is regarding an integration
>> of the existing Ant script against the Maven repositories when I think what
>> we're after is a reconstruction of the build under Maven, without using Ant.
>>
>> I've started an issue at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACE-62, and
>> in agreement with Toni's suggestion, started a Github repository at
>> http://github.com/topping/Apache-Ace-Mavenization. Jean-Baptiste, would
>> you like to kick things off with your existing POM? I suspect yours is
>> further along than mine, and I don't want to frustrate your efforts by
>> checking mine in first.
>>
>> Cheers, Brian
>>
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Brian Topping wrote:
>>
>> Hi gang,
>>> I've been speaking to Marcel for the couple weeks since ACUS about getting
>>> on board with a Maven build for Ace, it's great to see there's a complete
>>> army of folks that also have the same idea!
>>>
>>> My analysis so far is probably not farther than Jean Baptiste's, but I
>>> would agree with Toni that we could start a github to get things going. I'm
>>> suspecting that the folder moves that will be required are all going to be
>>> easily practical after creating the POM(s).
>>>
>>> I'll move the discussion over to the Jira issue though.
>>>
>>> Cheers, B
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: Maven Ace
Posted by Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Marcel Offermans
<ma...@luminis.nl> wrote:
> I'll have a look at the work in progress asap!
>
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 19:50 , Toni Menzel wrote:
>
>> Why 0.8.0-SNASPHOT ? Ok, ace is not entirely new (many commerical
>> deployments) + seeks a 1.0 with graduation (marcel, just thinking out of
>> thin air to kickstart discussion). It does not really matter anyhow. Just to
>> have something.
>
> As far as I know there are no real guidelines about versioning while in the incubator, but I would definitely want to start with a 1.0.0 release.
>
>> @Marcel: Are we going into trouble when working on this outside of apache
>> first and contribute the whole thing (if apropriate and workable) ?
>> Talking about IP Clearance and stuff.
>
> If we do develop things outside of Apache and then donate it, it needs to go through IP clearance.
Well, we are in the incubator already :-)
regards,
Karl
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
>
--
Karl Pauls
karlpauls@gmail.com
Re: Maven Ace
Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
I'll have a look at the work in progress asap!
On Nov 25, 2009, at 19:50 , Toni Menzel wrote:
> Why 0.8.0-SNASPHOT ? Ok, ace is not entirely new (many commerical
> deployments) + seeks a 1.0 with graduation (marcel, just thinking out of
> thin air to kickstart discussion). It does not really matter anyhow. Just to
> have something.
As far as I know there are no real guidelines about versioning while in the incubator, but I would definitely want to start with a 1.0.0 release.
> @Marcel: Are we going into trouble when working on this outside of apache
> first and contribute the whole thing (if apropriate and workable) ?
> Talking about IP Clearance and stuff.
If we do develop things outside of Apache and then donate it, it needs to go through IP clearance.
Greetings, Marcel
Re: Maven Ace
Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
Looks like a good start. Actually i think one has to start and offer (at
least) a clean maven based ACE Core build. Flat structure, one multimodule
pom. maven-bundle-plugin in place.
Thoughts on GAV:
GroupId: org.apache.ace
ArtifactId: ace-core-repository (and accordingly)
Version: 0.8.0-SNAPSHOT
Why 0.8.0-SNASPHOT ? Ok, ace is not entirely new (many commerical
deployments) + seeks a 1.0 with graduation (marcel, just thinking out of
thin air to kickstart discussion). It does not really matter anyhow. Just to
have something.
@Marcel: Are we going into trouble when working on this outside of apache
first and contribute the whole thing (if apropriate and workable) ?
Talking about IP Clearance and stuff.
Toni
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Brian Topping <to...@codehaus.org> wrote:
> Oops, it appears that the existing Maven issue is regarding an integration
> of the existing Ant script against the Maven repositories when I think what
> we're after is a reconstruction of the build under Maven, without using Ant.
>
> I've started an issue at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACE-62, and
> in agreement with Toni's suggestion, started a Github repository at
> http://github.com/topping/Apache-Ace-Mavenization. Jean-Baptiste, would
> you like to kick things off with your existing POM? I suspect yours is
> further along than mine, and I don't want to frustrate your efforts by
> checking mine in first.
>
> Cheers, Brian
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Brian Topping wrote:
>
> Hi gang,
>>
>> I've been speaking to Marcel for the couple weeks since ACUS about getting
>> on board with a Maven build for Ace, it's great to see there's a complete
>> army of folks that also have the same idea!
>>
>> My analysis so far is probably not farther than Jean Baptiste's, but I
>> would agree with Toni that we could start a github to get things going. I'm
>> suspecting that the folder moves that will be required are all going to be
>> easily practical after creating the POM(s).
>>
>> I'll move the discussion over to the Jira issue though.
>>
>> Cheers, B
>>
>>
>
--
Toni Menzel
Independent Software Developer
Professional Profile: http://okidokiteam.com
toni@okidokiteam.com
http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open
Participation Software.
Re: Maven Ace
Posted by Brian Topping <to...@codehaus.org>.
Oops, it appears that the existing Maven issue is regarding an
integration of the existing Ant script against the Maven repositories
when I think what we're after is a reconstruction of the build under
Maven, without using Ant.
I've started an issue at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACE-62,
and in agreement with Toni's suggestion, started a Github repository
at http://github.com/topping/Apache-Ace-Mavenization. Jean-Baptiste,
would you like to kick things off with your existing POM? I suspect
yours is further along than mine, and I don't want to frustrate your
efforts by checking mine in first.
Cheers, Brian
On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Brian Topping wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> I've been speaking to Marcel for the couple weeks since ACUS about
> getting on board with a Maven build for Ace, it's great to see
> there's a complete army of folks that also have the same idea!
>
> My analysis so far is probably not farther than Jean Baptiste's, but
> I would agree with Toni that we could start a github to get things
> going. I'm suspecting that the folder moves that will be required
> are all going to be easily practical after creating the POM(s).
>
> I'll move the discussion over to the Jira issue though.
>
> Cheers, B
>