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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by Varga Balázs <jo...@gmail.com> on 2014/02/25 11:00:57 UTC

OM extrem big loading time

Hello Max!

I try OM server (now 3.1) loadings.

Main internet not boost, simple ADSL 5/0,5 Mbps, avg 3,7/0.37 Mbps ~ 0.4 
MBps/0.04MBps.

The complete OM app (as moderator) download in non cached browser ~1.8 
MB in many block. On main connection ~ 17 sec (onloan ~6sec)
The finaly point, app downloaded, initialized, rendering completedi 
59.48 sec!

The loader process try 1,2 good, try 3 is very slow! In try 3 
flash/browser is freeze (grey layer on firefox, plugin not response in 
chrome) temporary

If login as partizipant (registered/nonregistered eq.) after try3 point 
is set language panel and have plus many loading (language specific 
content).
The partizipant loading time 1:40 !

How mutch the complete OM downolad size? Have optimize the app size eg. 
images
The firefox listening only http query size, not measure ower flash/rtmp 
download (theme.xml).

I don't understand, whie is many-many time the initialization. I try 
this procedure over high sped cable net (60/20Mbps) and the loading time 
not super speed into. What is a slowly "backend" procedure?

The network speed is avg 1-5Mbps download in european users. The 
partizipants not await above 30 sec on loading, leave the conference and 
not apply this in futhure!

Howto reduce downloading sizes and speed up rendering, processing ower 
flash process?

Balazs


Re: OM extrem big loading time

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I'm in business trip right now (from mobile), will try to send you info
later this week, maybe next week due to heavy work load :(
On Feb 26, 2014 7:04 PM, "Varga Balázs" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Thanks!
>
> If you send to me your geo info, ip , i send a request to main isp
> provider check the trace...etc.
> This an abnormally.
>
> Inside country not have a problem... i dont know the international way
> delay, supress, load...etc.
> On yesterday stop main server, have a network and disk problem. Today
> resolve this.
>
> http://195.56.44.167:8080/openmeetings/log/olds/jvm.stdout
>
> Balazs
>
>
> 2014-02-26 13:45 keltezéssel, Maxim Solodovnik írta:
>
> The fact is: I was unable to download your log files (approximately 68m)
> due to timeout after veeeeery slow download process. I believe you need to
> double Chechen your network configuration
> On Feb 26, 2014 6:28 PM, "Varga Balázs" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hello Max!
>>
>> Main server on 100/100 dedicated connection on servercenter.
>> International granted bw. min 20Mbit
>>
>> I tested now:
>>  lshw -C network
>> WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
>>   *-network
>>        description: Ethernet interface
>>        product: NetXtreme BCM5722 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
>>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
>>        physical id: 0
>>        bus info: pci@0000:0e:00.0
>>        logical name: eth0
>>        version: 00
>>        serial: f4:ce:46:e6:63:d0
>>        size: 100Mbit/s
>>        capacity: 1Gbit/s
>>        width: 64 bits
>>        clock: 33MHz
>>        capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt
>> 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
>>        configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=tg3
>> driverversion=3.121 duplex=full firmware=5722-v3.07 ip=195.56.44.167
>> latency=0 multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100Mbit/s
>>
>> @server6:~$ ./speedtest-cli
>> Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
>> Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
>> Testing from GTS Hungary Telecommunications Limited (195.56.44.167)...
>> Selecting best server based on ping...
>> Hosted by TvNetTel (Szentes) [43.37 km]: 11.285 ms
>> Testing download speed........................................
>> Download: 93.79 Mbit/s
>> Testing upload speed..................................................
>> Upload: 87.88 Mbit/s
>>
>> The up/down link is good.
>> The log files send out nginx, not throtled.
>>
>> The OM throtling bw only Red5 config, i not modifye this.
>> In red5 find bw settings, maximised 10 Mbit/client.
>>
>> I try download log - on another server - from om server (100/100
>> dedicated).
>> $ wget http://195.56.44.167:8080/openmeetings/log/olds/jvm.stdout
>> --2014-02-26 13:20:24--
>> http://195.56.44.167:8080/openmeetings/log/olds/jvm.stdout
>> Connecting to 195.56.44.167:8080... connected.
>> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
>> Length: 24909958 (24M) [application/octet-stream]
>> Saving to: “jvm.stdout”
>>
>> 100%[======================================>] 24,909,958  11.2M/s   in
>> 2.1s
>>
>> 2014-02-26 13:20:26 (11.2 MB/s) - “jvm.stdout” saved [24909958/24909958]
>>
>>
>> The nginx based log bandwith is good. 11.2 MB/s ~ 100Mbps
>>
>> This test consequent:
>>
>> If red5 send unthrotled, the <2MByte app ~ downloadable max 20Mbps -
>> current settings dwl max (on 10 Mbps linit) 2 sec.
>> If client network 3 Mbps dwl bw, the 2 MByte app dwl time - on math base
>> -  < 10 sec.
>>
>> This results they are distant to the real app loading procedure 35~120
>> sec loading time.
>>
>> Balazs
>>
>> 2014-02-26 12:29 keltezéssel, Maxim Solodovnik írta:
>>
>> Hello Varga,
>> Your server is very slow (I was unable to download your log file due to
>> timeout)
>> You need faster inet connection on server for videoconferencing
>> On Feb 25, 2014 4:02 PM, "Varga Balázs" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Max!
>>>
>>> I try OM server (now 3.1) loadings.
>>>
>>> Main internet not boost, simple ADSL 5/0,5 Mbps, avg 3,7/0.37 Mbps ~ 0.4
>>> MBps/0.04MBps.
>>>
>>> The complete OM app (as moderator) download in non cached browser ~1.8
>>> MB in many block. On main connection ~ 17 sec (onloan ~6sec)
>>> The finaly point, app downloaded, initialized, rendering completedi
>>> 59.48 sec!
>>>
>>> The loader process try 1,2 good, try 3 is very slow! In try 3
>>> flash/browser is freeze (grey layer on firefox, plugin not response in
>>> chrome) temporary
>>>
>>> If login as partizipant (registered/nonregistered eq.) after try3 point
>>> is set language panel and have plus many loading (language specific
>>> content).
>>> The partizipant loading time 1:40 !
>>>
>>> How mutch the complete OM downolad size? Have optimize the app size eg.
>>> images
>>> The firefox listening only http query size, not measure ower flash/rtmp
>>> download (theme.xml).
>>>
>>> I don't understand, whie is many-many time the initialization. I try
>>> this procedure over high sped cable net (60/20Mbps) and the loading time
>>> not super speed into. What is a slowly "backend" procedure?
>>>
>>> The network speed is avg 1-5Mbps download in european users. The
>>> partizipants not await above 30 sec on loading, leave the conference and
>>> not apply this in futhure!
>>>
>>> Howto reduce downloading sizes and speed up rendering, processing ower
>>> flash process?
>>>
>>> Balazs
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: OM extrem big loading time

Posted by Varga Balázs <jo...@gmail.com>.
Thanks!

If you send to me your geo info, ip , i send a request to main isp 
provider check the trace...etc.
This an abnormally.

Inside country not have a problem... i dont know the international way 
delay, supress, load...etc.
On yesterday stop main server, have a network and disk problem. Today 
resolve this.

http://195.56.44.167:8080/openmeetings/log/olds/jvm.stdout

Balazs


2014-02-26 13:45 keltezéssel, Maxim Solodovnik írta:
>
> The fact is: I was unable to download your log files (approximately 
> 68m) due to timeout after veeeeery slow download process. I believe 
> you need to double Chechen your network configuration
>
> On Feb 26, 2014 6:28 PM, "Varga Balázs" <joinfok@gmail.com 
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello Max!
>
>     Main server on 100/100 dedicated connection on servercenter.
>     International granted bw. min 20Mbit
>
>     I tested now:
>      lshw -C network
>     WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
>       *-network
>            description: Ethernet interface
>            product: NetXtreme BCM5722 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
>            vendor: Broadcom Corporation
>            physical id: 0
>            bus info: pci@0000:0e:00.0 <mailto:pci@0000:0e:00.0>
>            logical name: eth0
>            version: 00
>            serial: f4:ce:46:e6:63:d0
>            size: 100Mbit/s
>            capacity: 1Gbit/s
>            width: 64 bits
>            clock: 33MHz
>            capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt
>     10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
>            configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=tg3
>     driverversion=3.121 duplex=full firmware=5722-v3.07
>     ip=195.56.44.167 latency=0 multicast=yes port=twisted pair
>     speed=100Mbit/s
>
>     @server6:~$ ./speedtest-cli
>     Retrieving speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net> configuration...
>     Retrieving speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net> server list...
>     Testing from GTS Hungary Telecommunications Limited (195.56.44.167)...
>     Selecting best server based on ping...
>     Hosted by TvNetTel (Szentes) [43.37 km]: 11.285 ms
>     Testing download speed........................................
>     Download: 93.79 Mbit/s
>     Testing upload speed..................................................
>     Upload: 87.88 Mbit/s
>
>     The up/down link is good.
>     The log files send out nginx, not throtled.
>
>     The OM throtling bw only Red5 config, i not modifye this.
>     In red5 find bw settings, maximised 10 Mbit/client.
>
>     I try download log - on another server - from om server (100/100
>     dedicated).
>     $ wget http://195.56.44.167:8080/openmeetings/log/olds/jvm.stdout
>     --2014-02-26 13:20:24--
>     http://195.56.44.167:8080/openmeetings/log/olds/jvm.stdout
>     Connecting to 195.56.44.167:8080... connected.
>     HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
>     Length: 24909958 (24M) [application/octet-stream]
>     Saving to: “jvm.stdout”
>
>     100%[======================================>] 24,909,958 11.2M/s  
>     in 2.1s
>
>     2014-02-26 13:20:26 (11.2 MB/s) - “jvm.stdout” saved
>     [24909958/24909958]
>
>
>     The nginx based log bandwith is good. 11.2 MB/s ~ 100Mbps
>
>     This test consequent:
>
>     If red5 send unthrotled, the <2MByte app ~ downloadable max 20Mbps
>     - current settings dwl max (on 10 Mbps linit) 2 sec.
>     If client network 3 Mbps dwl bw, the 2 MByte app dwl time - on
>     math base -  < 10 sec.
>
>     This results they are distant to the real app loading procedure
>     35~120 sec loading time.
>
>     Balazs
>
>     2014-02-26 12:29 keltezéssel, Maxim Solodovnik írta:
>>
>>     Hello Varga,
>>     Your server is very slow (I was unable to download your log file
>>     due to timeout)
>>     You need faster inet connection on server for videoconferencing
>>
>>     On Feb 25, 2014 4:02 PM, "Varga Balázs" <joinfok@gmail.com
>>     <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hello Max!
>>
>>         I try OM server (now 3.1) loadings.
>>
>>         Main internet not boost, simple ADSL 5/0,5 Mbps, avg 3,7/0.37
>>         Mbps ~ 0.4 MBps/0.04MBps.
>>
>>         The complete OM app (as moderator) download in non cached
>>         browser ~1.8 MB in many block. On main connection ~ 17 sec
>>         (onloan ~6sec)
>>         The finaly point, app downloaded, initialized, rendering
>>         completedi 59.48 sec!
>>
>>         The loader process try 1,2 good, try 3 is very slow! In try 3
>>         flash/browser is freeze (grey layer on firefox, plugin not
>>         response in chrome) temporary
>>
>>         If login as partizipant (registered/nonregistered eq.) after
>>         try3 point is set language panel and have plus many loading
>>         (language specific content).
>>         The partizipant loading time 1:40 !
>>
>>         How mutch the complete OM downolad size? Have optimize the
>>         app size eg. images
>>         The firefox listening only http query size, not measure ower
>>         flash/rtmp download (theme.xml).
>>
>>         I don't understand, whie is many-many time the
>>         initialization. I try this procedure over high sped cable net
>>         (60/20Mbps) and the loading time not super speed into. What
>>         is a slowly "backend" procedure?
>>
>>         The network speed is avg 1-5Mbps download in european users.
>>         The partizipants not await above 30 sec on loading, leave the
>>         conference and not apply this in futhure!
>>
>>         Howto reduce downloading sizes and speed up rendering,
>>         processing ower flash process?
>>
>>         Balazs
>>
>


Re: OM extrem big loading time

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
The fact is: I was unable to download your log files (approximately 68m)
due to timeout after veeeeery slow download process. I believe you need to
double Chechen your network configuration
On Feb 26, 2014 6:28 PM, "Varga Balázs" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hello Max!
>
> Main server on 100/100 dedicated connection on servercenter. International
> granted bw. min 20Mbit
>
> I tested now:
>  lshw -C network
> WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
>   *-network
>        description: Ethernet interface
>        product: NetXtreme BCM5722 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
>        physical id: 0
>        bus info: pci@0000:0e:00.0
>        logical name: eth0
>        version: 00
>        serial: f4:ce:46:e6:63:d0
>        size: 100Mbit/s
>        capacity: 1Gbit/s
>        width: 64 bits
>        clock: 33MHz
>        capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd
> 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
>        configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=tg3
> driverversion=3.121 duplex=full firmware=5722-v3.07 ip=195.56.44.167
> latency=0 multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100Mbit/s
>
> @server6:~$ ./speedtest-cli
> Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
> Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
> Testing from GTS Hungary Telecommunications Limited (195.56.44.167)...
> Selecting best server based on ping...
> Hosted by TvNetTel (Szentes) [43.37 km]: 11.285 ms
> Testing download speed........................................
> Download: 93.79 Mbit/s
> Testing upload speed..................................................
> Upload: 87.88 Mbit/s
>
> The up/down link is good.
> The log files send out nginx, not throtled.
>
> The OM throtling bw only Red5 config, i not modifye this.
> In red5 find bw settings, maximised 10 Mbit/client.
>
> I try download log - on another server - from om server (100/100
> dedicated).
> $ wget http://195.56.44.167:8080/openmeetings/log/olds/jvm.stdout
> --2014-02-26 13:20:24--
> http://195.56.44.167:8080/openmeetings/log/olds/jvm.stdout
> Connecting to 195.56.44.167:8080... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> Length: 24909958 (24M) [application/octet-stream]
> Saving to: “jvm.stdout”
>
> 100%[======================================>] 24,909,958  11.2M/s   in
> 2.1s
>
> 2014-02-26 13:20:26 (11.2 MB/s) - “jvm.stdout” saved [24909958/24909958]
>
>
> The nginx based log bandwith is good. 11.2 MB/s ~ 100Mbps
>
> This test consequent:
>
> If red5 send unthrotled, the <2MByte app ~ downloadable max 20Mbps -
> current settings dwl max (on 10 Mbps linit) 2 sec.
> If client network 3 Mbps dwl bw, the 2 MByte app dwl time - on math base
> -  < 10 sec.
>
> This results they are distant to the real app loading procedure 35~120 sec
> loading time.
>
> Balazs
>
> 2014-02-26 12:29 keltezéssel, Maxim Solodovnik írta:
>
> Hello Varga,
> Your server is very slow (I was unable to download your log file due to
> timeout)
> You need faster inet connection on server for videoconferencing
> On Feb 25, 2014 4:02 PM, "Varga Balázs" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Max!
>>
>> I try OM server (now 3.1) loadings.
>>
>> Main internet not boost, simple ADSL 5/0,5 Mbps, avg 3,7/0.37 Mbps ~ 0.4
>> MBps/0.04MBps.
>>
>> The complete OM app (as moderator) download in non cached browser ~1.8 MB
>> in many block. On main connection ~ 17 sec (onloan ~6sec)
>> The finaly point, app downloaded, initialized, rendering completedi 59.48
>> sec!
>>
>> The loader process try 1,2 good, try 3 is very slow! In try 3
>> flash/browser is freeze (grey layer on firefox, plugin not response in
>> chrome) temporary
>>
>> If login as partizipant (registered/nonregistered eq.) after try3 point
>> is set language panel and have plus many loading (language specific
>> content).
>> The partizipant loading time 1:40 !
>>
>> How mutch the complete OM downolad size? Have optimize the app size eg.
>> images
>> The firefox listening only http query size, not measure ower flash/rtmp
>> download (theme.xml).
>>
>> I don't understand, whie is many-many time the initialization. I try this
>> procedure over high sped cable net (60/20Mbps) and the loading time not
>> super speed into. What is a slowly "backend" procedure?
>>
>> The network speed is avg 1-5Mbps download in european users. The
>> partizipants not await above 30 sec on loading, leave the conference and
>> not apply this in futhure!
>>
>> Howto reduce downloading sizes and speed up rendering, processing ower
>> flash process?
>>
>> Balazs
>>
>>
>

Re: OM extrem big loading time

Posted by Varga Balázs <jo...@gmail.com>.
Hello Max!

Main server on 100/100 dedicated connection on servercenter. 
International granted bw. min 20Mbit

I tested now:
  lshw -C network
WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
   *-network
        description: Ethernet interface
        product: NetXtreme BCM5722 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
        physical id: 0
        bus info: pci@0000:0e:00.0
        logical name: eth0
        version: 00
        serial: f4:ce:46:e6:63:d0
        size: 100Mbit/s
        capacity: 1Gbit/s
        width: 64 bits
        clock: 33MHz
        capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 
10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
        configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=tg3 
driverversion=3.121 duplex=full firmware=5722-v3.07 ip=195.56.44.167 
latency=0 multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100Mbit/s

@server6:~$ ./speedtest-cli
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Testing from GTS Hungary Telecommunications Limited (195.56.44.167)...
Selecting best server based on ping...
Hosted by TvNetTel (Szentes) [43.37 km]: 11.285 ms
Testing download speed........................................
Download: 93.79 Mbit/s
Testing upload speed..................................................
Upload: 87.88 Mbit/s

The up/down link is good.
The log files send out nginx, not throtled.

The OM throtling bw only Red5 config, i not modifye this.
In red5 find bw settings, maximised 10 Mbit/client.

I try download log - on another server - from om server (100/100 dedicated).
$ wget http://195.56.44.167:8080/openmeetings/log/olds/jvm.stdout
--2014-02-26 13:20:24-- 
http://195.56.44.167:8080/openmeetings/log/olds/jvm.stdout
Connecting to 195.56.44.167:8080... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 24909958 (24M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: “jvm.stdout”

100%[======================================>] 24,909,958 11.2M/s   in 2.1s

2014-02-26 13:20:26 (11.2 MB/s) - “jvm.stdout” saved [24909958/24909958]


The nginx based log bandwith is good. 11.2 MB/s ~ 100Mbps

This test consequent:

If red5 send unthrotled, the <2MByte app ~ downloadable max 20Mbps - 
current settings dwl max (on 10 Mbps linit) 2 sec.
If client network 3 Mbps dwl bw, the 2 MByte app dwl time - on math base 
-  < 10 sec.

This results they are distant to the real app loading procedure 35~120 
sec loading time.

Balazs

2014-02-26 12:29 keltezéssel, Maxim Solodovnik írta:
>
> Hello Varga,
> Your server is very slow (I was unable to download your log file due 
> to timeout)
> You need faster inet connection on server for videoconferencing
>
> On Feb 25, 2014 4:02 PM, "Varga Balázs" <joinfok@gmail.com 
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello Max!
>
>     I try OM server (now 3.1) loadings.
>
>     Main internet not boost, simple ADSL 5/0,5 Mbps, avg 3,7/0.37 Mbps
>     ~ 0.4 MBps/0.04MBps.
>
>     The complete OM app (as moderator) download in non cached browser
>     ~1.8 MB in many block. On main connection ~ 17 sec (onloan ~6sec)
>     The finaly point, app downloaded, initialized, rendering
>     completedi 59.48 sec!
>
>     The loader process try 1,2 good, try 3 is very slow! In try 3
>     flash/browser is freeze (grey layer on firefox, plugin not
>     response in chrome) temporary
>
>     If login as partizipant (registered/nonregistered eq.) after try3
>     point is set language panel and have plus many loading (language
>     specific content).
>     The partizipant loading time 1:40 !
>
>     How mutch the complete OM downolad size? Have optimize the app
>     size eg. images
>     The firefox listening only http query size, not measure ower
>     flash/rtmp download (theme.xml).
>
>     I don't understand, whie is many-many time the initialization. I
>     try this procedure over high sped cable net (60/20Mbps) and the
>     loading time not super speed into. What is a slowly "backend"
>     procedure?
>
>     The network speed is avg 1-5Mbps download in european users. The
>     partizipants not await above 30 sec on loading, leave the
>     conference and not apply this in futhure!
>
>     Howto reduce downloading sizes and speed up rendering, processing
>     ower flash process?
>
>     Balazs
>


Re: OM extrem big loading time

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Varga,
Your server is very slow (I was unable to download your log file due to
timeout)
You need faster inet connection on server for videoconferencing
On Feb 25, 2014 4:02 PM, "Varga Balázs" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Max!
>
> I try OM server (now 3.1) loadings.
>
> Main internet not boost, simple ADSL 5/0,5 Mbps, avg 3,7/0.37 Mbps ~ 0.4
> MBps/0.04MBps.
>
> The complete OM app (as moderator) download in non cached browser ~1.8 MB
> in many block. On main connection ~ 17 sec (onloan ~6sec)
> The finaly point, app downloaded, initialized, rendering completedi 59.48
> sec!
>
> The loader process try 1,2 good, try 3 is very slow! In try 3
> flash/browser is freeze (grey layer on firefox, plugin not response in
> chrome) temporary
>
> If login as partizipant (registered/nonregistered eq.) after try3 point is
> set language panel and have plus many loading (language specific content).
> The partizipant loading time 1:40 !
>
> How mutch the complete OM downolad size? Have optimize the app size eg.
> images
> The firefox listening only http query size, not measure ower flash/rtmp
> download (theme.xml).
>
> I don't understand, whie is many-many time the initialization. I try this
> procedure over high sped cable net (60/20Mbps) and the loading time not
> super speed into. What is a slowly "backend" procedure?
>
> The network speed is avg 1-5Mbps download in european users. The
> partizipants not await above 30 sec on loading, leave the conference and
> not apply this in futhure!
>
> Howto reduce downloading sizes and speed up rendering, processing ower
> flash process?
>
> Balazs
>
>