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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net> on 2010/12/04 21:16:26 UTC

Re:Multitenancy documentation was SOLVED getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555) June 10th nightly builds localpostnew

I looked at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
and
the focus seems to being diluted and confusing.
I suggest some be moved to
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
as with different pages for different tenant architectures.

=========================
BJ Freeman
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BJ Freeman sent the following on 12/4/2010 11:45 AM:
> thanks, no, will.
>
>
> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/4/2010 10:05 AM:
>> You wrote
>>
>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from the
>>>>>> Base
>>
>> That's what I was talking about. Did you explain it in the wiki page?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>>> can you clarify what you asking about, couple of key words would help.
>>>
>>> I think the answer is Yes, but not sure what I am saying yes to.
>>> :D
>>>
>>> =========================
>>> BJ Freeman
>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>
>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>
>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/3/2010 7:53 PM:
>>>
>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>
>>>> Did you get a change to add your way of doing it?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Carsten Schinzer" <c....@googlemail.com>
>>>> Yup, It's runnign here and soon for some customers.
>>>> But you're right: I am not intending to do much of dynamic,
>>>> self-service
>>>> stuff since my offer looks more after "managed services" including data
>>>> loads, configuration help etc.
>>>> That's why I can still afford to have "maintenance windows" and my
>>>> customers
>>>> are local shops who mostly don't care when they can't access their
>>>> tools
>>>> during weekend-eve's (and we're all one single timeezone as well).
>>>>
>>>> So forgive me if I have messed up anything in the documentation, but
>>>> maybe
>>>> it's worth we describe both ways in the online documentation?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Carsten
>>>>
>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>
>>>>> just a thought, you can use a schedule service to export entities
>>>>> like is
>>>>> done by webtools.
>>>>> this gives you your data that has been added.
>>>>> a timed service or cron job can run a svn update for your local svn.
>>>>> this gives you versoning, as well a reload abiliity, if necessary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So your documentation of using the entityengine.xml and Ant for tenant
>>>>> says
>>>>> that the whole tenant systems has to be shutdown, every time you add a
>>>>> tenant. i can see that for a intranet type of website, but not for and
>>>>> internet type of website. For an internet type you would have to have
>>>>> scheduled maintainence, which mean the new client has to wait, or
>>>>> daily
>>>>> maintainence that means the other tenants are interrupted a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not looked at the code, but I don't think that those loaded
>>>>> from the
>>>>> entityengine.xml for tenants are access by the tenant code, since it
>>>>> is not
>>>>> loaded into the cache for the entity TenantDataSource.
>>>>> Have you run the setup you documented?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =========================
>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <
>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>
>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>
>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 6:39 AM:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm seems like I'm a console freak then ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I prefer controlled initial dataloads from a repository (to have
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> history). And I do a lot of catalogue management actually using
>>>>>> XSLT and
>>>>>> XML
>>>>>> loads / uploads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, too much operations minded from may day-job I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the hint. Maybe also something that needs to be added to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> wiki
>>>>>> page?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman<bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from the
>>>>>>> Base
>>>>>>> (default) DB. A script is run that actually creates the DB based
>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>> System setup, then added to the TenantDataSource. At this point the
>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>> is not configurable and has to be modified based on how the provider
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> their DB server set up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Seed data is loaded on the fly, not using Ant.
>>>>>>> they are then switched to their DB
>>>>>>> they are then sent to setup to build their system.
>>>>>>> This includes providing images for logos and other parameters to
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> Themes, and that is loaded on the fly into their DB. this is
>>>>>>> similar to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> products Images but instead creates a theme for this tenant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Based on the above the Tenant DB is stored in the TenantDataSource
>>>>>>> DB,
>>>>>>> instead of the entityengine.xml, as it was originally designed to
>>>>>>> do. So
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> restart of ofbiz is necessary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the ant configuration, in my opinion should only be used to setup
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> basic
>>>>>>> Tenant system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<
>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 12:30 AM:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've done some extended research and have played around with the
>>>>>>>> configuration. I have taken the liberty to add my findings in a
>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> Multitenant Configuraiton at:
>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please review and let me know your comments if there are any.
>>>>>>>> I guess with this we can close the issue and make life easier for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>> multitenant users.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really don't know much about the multi tenant functionality, it's
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> I haven't used it. But yeah you do need that tenant group mapped
>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>> datasource, it contains a set of tables that are needed in
>>>>>>>>> addition to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> separate tenant databases (I think).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 11:57 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, so possibly a mistake in the documents as the multitenant
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> would be defined in the config file placed on data/... (as
>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> above).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Using your aproach, I would be using the entityengine.xml to
>>>>>>>>> define any
>>>>>>>>>> datasource required?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then for data loading: How do I address a certain datasource?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I had the idea to use defined readers like e.g.
>>>>>>>>>> <entity-data-reader name="ext-tenant1"/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and define those readers only for the respective data sources.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does that make sense?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip!
>>>>>>>>>> I'll play around a little with this idea.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just one last question: What is the dedicated
>>>>>>>>>> TenantDatasources.xml
>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>> then used for at all? To map the datasource to the respective
>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> logins?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because irritatingly, this file also references jdbcUri,
>>>>>>>>> jdbcUsername
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> jdbcPassword. But all that I would have specified in
>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, it looks like I'd update some documents once I found my way
>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>> this. Stay tuned :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OOTB in 10.04 the delegator definition looks like this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderby"/>
>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.tenant"
>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbytenant"/>
>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your one appears to be missing the last group-map for
>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that is the problem. I have no idea why you and BJ
>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> missing that entry though, it was there before 10.04 existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 9:42 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I digged out this old thread as the very same seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>> happening
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> as well. Here's a little context:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am aiming at multitenant along with PostGreSQL database,
>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> created the DB for each tenant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed entityengine.xml to use the localpostnew DataSource
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> delegator:
>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localpostnew"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> of course localpostnew is updated with connection string
>>>>>>>>>>>> info as
>>>>>>>>>>>> usual
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the respective postgres drivers are placed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\lib\jdbc
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the multitenant info, i.e. the datasource setup for each
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenant's
>>>>>>>>>>>> database, went to the xml file in
>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\data\TenantDataSources.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>> (the filename is different and is updated accordingly in
>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I choose the localderby datasource, everything goes just
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> databases are generated, data loaded etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I change to the above configuration, i.e. using
>>>>>>>>>>>> localpostnew,
>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>> throws an exception as follows
>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>> COMMAND ISSUED:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> D:\__eclipse\ofbiz-multitenant>java -Xmx512m
>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:MaxPermSize=128m
>>>>>>>>>>>> -jar
>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed-initial -delegator=default
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *CONSOLE OUTPUT:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Set OFBIZ_HOME to - D:/__eclipse/ofbiz-multitenant
>>>>>>>>>>>> (...)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,283 (main) [ ModelReader.java:389:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> FINISHED
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LOADING ENTITIES - ALL FILES; #Entities=849 #ViewEntities=267
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> #Fields=8870
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> #Relationships=2925 #AutoRelationships=2157
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,392 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericDelegator.java:244:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> entity definition check...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,408 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>> ModelEntityChecker.java:502:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [initReservedWords] array length=1023
>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.model.ModelEntityChecker.checkEntities(ModelEntityChecker.java:101)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.<init>(GenericDelegator.java:245)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,627 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>>>>>>>>>>>> ContainerLoader.java:113:INFO ] Shutting down containers
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - what is going wrong? OFBIZ seems to have issues with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> entityfieldtypes for postnew. This is not observed for single
>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBIZ
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> setups -- or no-one out there is using single instances on
>>>>>>>>>>> postgres
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> release 10.04 or later.
>>>>>>>>>>>> - how can I dig deeper into the issue? Reviewing the classes
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>> sporadic log statement which I do not find back on the console,
>>>>>>>>>>>> hence:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> can I switch log levels for a component or the entire ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>> instance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint for any of these two are much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And thanks for focussing back on the topic :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry my bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you explain what changes you've made to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you to the point of something not working?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 6:04 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm. Again this has gone off towards debugging/logging (just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> older
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread from June).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone with proposals on how to include the Tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml as BJ indicated he had found a workaround
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that involves this? BJ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 David E Jones<de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 10:39 AM, James McGill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:08 AM, BJ Freeman<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bjfree@free-man.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure why it worked in derby mode but not in postgresql.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it hung up on the tenant entity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but adding the tenant stuff into the entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am such a slouch I used one line of debug.loginfo to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someday I will put energy into the remote debugging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find remote debugging is extremely easy, using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way to step into minilang services -- they make remote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debugging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating, especially if you want to breakpoint an ECA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can cheat a little sometimes with that. I regularly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <log level="always" message="${someVar}"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <transaction-rollback/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously not as good as breakpoints but you can move it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep refreshing the browser to continually execute the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> method and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> commit the changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, IMO, when you don't have to worry about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile/run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logging better than break points and variable inspection. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> little more typing, but a LOT less clicking and watching and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> through data. In fact, IMO logging is faster when you don't
>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about compilation making things intolerably slow. It's kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command-line versus a purely graphical way of doing things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, to each their own... most programmers can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> something that they aren't used and/or wasn't their idea... ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: DocBook documentation, Multitenancy documentation was SOLVED getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555) June 10th nightly builds localpostnew

Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
thanks Hans.
right looking at what it takes to use seperate sets for User and 
technical books.
also what has to be done to add CSS for them.
Just about done with Datafiles, to get an idea of what needs to be done.
then will work on wiki to dochbook file converter.


=========================
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
Hans Bakker sent the following on 12/7/2010 6:49 AM:


> Very good BJ, thanks for having another supporter of the docbook help
> system.
>
> Please put in jira, i will commit it.
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
> On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 05:44 -0800, BJ Freeman wrote:
>> researching and developing the tools as I write this.
>>
>> hopefully and christmas present to ofbiz.
>> will put in Docbooks help when ready, via a jira.
>>
>>
>> =========================
>> BJ Freeman
>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>
>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>
>>
>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 5:23 AM:
>>> "Webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and dochelp to wiki" ?
>>> Where it is? An URL? A service?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "BJ Freeman"<bj...@free-man.net>
>>>> sounds good, I hope you don't mind that I put my energy into the
>>>> putting these into the ofbiz dochelp.
>>>> http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML
>>>> based on my email in Dev,
>>>> I decided that it is more productive in my time to put everything in
>>>> dockhelp and use webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and
>>>> dochelp to wiki. Or what every format we decide, like the PDF and Html.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =========================
>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>
>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 2:12 AM:
>>>>> I agree that it should be splitted. But IMO not in pages but clear
>>>>> sections in the same page.
>>>>> This because it's easier to find the same thing in the same page when
>>>>> you are looking for the information without following a
>>>>> specific path (ie when using search in wiki or even outside of the wiki)
>>>>>
>>>>>> From
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You propose
>>>>> Multitenancy Basic Architecture
>>>>> Multitenancy for Automated self service
>>>>> Multitenancy support
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should 1st check/refactor the current page
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>>>>
>>>>> And then split in sections following the page you proposed but still in
>>>>> the sole Multitenancy+support page
>>>>>
>>>>> Also we need to clean the Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz page
>>>>> and at some point those pages should be move to OFBiz Technical
>>>>> Documentation space. Though it's closed and there are less and less
>>>>> efforts in the closed part of the wiki :/, which makes me wonder about
>>>>> it...
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be happy to help, what do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "BJ Freeman"<bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>> I looked at
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the focus seems to being diluted and confusing.
>>>>>> I suggest some be moved to
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as with different pages for different tenant architectures.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 12/4/2010 11:45 AM:
>>>>>>> thanks, no, will.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/4/2010 10:05 AM:
>>>>>>>> You wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Base
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's what I was talking about. Did you explain it in the wiki page?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "BJ Freeman"<bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>>>> can you clarify what you asking about, couple of key words would
>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think the answer is Yes, but not sure what I am saying yes to.
>>>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/3/2010 7:53 PM:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you get a change to add your way of doing it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Carsten Schinzer"<c....@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Yup, It's runnign here and soon for some customers.
>>>>>>>>>> But you're right: I am not intending to do much of dynamic,
>>>>>>>>>> self-service
>>>>>>>>>> stuff since my offer looks more after "managed services" including
>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>> loads, configuration help etc.
>>>>>>>>>> That's why I can still afford to have "maintenance windows" and my
>>>>>>>>>> customers
>>>>>>>>>> are local shops who mostly don't care when they can't access their
>>>>>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>>>>> during weekend-eve's (and we're all one single timeezone as well).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So forgive me if I have messed up anything in the documentation,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>> it's worth we describe both ways in the online documentation?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman<bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> just a thought, you can use a schedule service to export entities
>>>>>>>>>>> like is
>>>>>>>>>>> done by webtools.
>>>>>>>>>>> this gives you your data that has been added.
>>>>>>>>>>> a timed service or cron job can run a svn update for your local
>>>>>>>>>>> svn.
>>>>>>>>>>> this gives you versoning, as well a reload abiliity, if necessary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So your documentation of using the entityengine.xml and Ant for
>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>> that the whole tenant systems has to be shutdown, every time you
>>>>>>>>>>> add a
>>>>>>>>>>> tenant. i can see that for a intranet type of website, but not
>>>>>>>>>>> for and
>>>>>>>>>>> internet type of website. For an internet type you would have to
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> scheduled maintainence, which mean the new client has to wait, or
>>>>>>>>>>> daily
>>>>>>>>>>> maintainence that means the other tenants are interrupted a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have not looked at the code, but I don't think that those loaded
>>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml for tenants are access by the tenant code,
>>>>>>>>>>> since it
>>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>>> loaded into the cache for the entity TenantDataSource.
>>>>>>>>>>> Have you run the setup you documented?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 6:39 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hm seems like I'm a console freak then ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer controlled initial dataloads from a repository (to have
>>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>>> history). And I do a lot of catalogue management actually using
>>>>>>>>>>>> XSLT and
>>>>>>>>>>>> XML
>>>>>>>>>>>> loads / uploads.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, too much operations minded from may day-job I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the hint. Maybe also something that needs to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> added to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki
>>>>>>>>>>>> page?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman<bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (default) DB. A script is run that actually creates the DB based
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> System setup, then added to the TenantDataSource. At this point
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not configurable and has to be modified based on how the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provider
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their DB server set up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Seed data is loaded on the fly, not using Ant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are then switched to their DB
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are then sent to setup to build their system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This includes providing images for logos and other parameters to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Themes, and that is loaded on the fly into their DB. this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> products Images but instead creates a theme for this tenant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on the above the Tenant DB is stored in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TenantDataSource
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DB,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of the entityengine.xml, as it was originally
>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. So
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> restart of ofbiz is necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ant configuration, in my opinion should only be used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> setup
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenant system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 12:30 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've done some extended research and have played around with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration. I have taken the liberty to add my findings in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Multitenant Configuraiton at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please review and let me know your comments if there are any.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess with this we can close the issue and make life
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multitenant users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really don't know much about the multi tenant functionality,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't used it. But yeah you do need that tenant group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mapped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource, it contains a set of tables that are needed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate tenant databases (I think).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 11:57 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, so possibly a mistake in the documents as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multitenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be defined in the config file placed on data/... (as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using your aproach, I would be using the entityengine.xml to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> define any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource required?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then for data loading: How do I address a certain datasource?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had the idea to use defined readers like e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <entity-data-reader name="ext-tenant1"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and define those readers only for the respective data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that make sense?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll play around a little with this idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just one last question: What is the dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TenantDatasources.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then used for at all? To map the datasource to the respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logins?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because irritatingly, this file also references jdbcUri,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcUsername
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcPassword. But all that I would have specified in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it looks like I'd update some documents once I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this. Stay tuned :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OOTB in 10.04 the delegator definition looks like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderby"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.tenant"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbytenant"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your one appears to be missing the last group-map for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that is the problem. I have no idea why you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and BJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing that entry though, it was there before 10.04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 9:42 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I digged out this old thread as the very same seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well. Here's a little context:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am aiming at multitenant along with PostGreSQL database,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created the DB for each tenant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed entityengine.xml to use the localpostnew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DataSource
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegator:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localpostnew"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course localpostnew is updated with connection string
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the respective postgres drivers are placed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\lib\jdbc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the multitenant info, i.e. the datasource setup for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenant's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database, went to the xml file in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\data\TenantDataSources.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the filename is different and is updated accordingly in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I choose the localderby datasource, everything goes just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> databases are generated, data loaded etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I change to the above configuration, i.e. using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> localpostnew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throws an exception as follows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> COMMAND ISSUED:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D:\__eclipse\ofbiz-multitenant>java -Xmx512m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:MaxPermSize=128m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed-initial -delegator=default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CONSOLE OUTPUT:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Set OFBIZ_HOME to - D:/__eclipse/ofbiz-multitenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,283 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ModelReader.java:389:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FINISHED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOADING ENTITIES - ALL FILES; #Entities=849
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #ViewEntities=267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Fields=8870
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Relationships=2925 #AutoRelationships=2157
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,392 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericDelegator.java:244:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity definition check...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,408 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ModelEntityChecker.java:502:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [initReservedWords] array length=1023
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.model.ModelEntityChecker.checkEntities(ModelEntityChecker.java:101)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.<init>(GenericDelegator.java:245)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,627 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ContainerLoader.java:113:INFO ] Shutting down containers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - what is going wrong? OFBIZ seems to have issues with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityfieldtypes for postnew. This is not observed for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBIZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setups -- or no-one out there is using single instances on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release 10.04 or later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - how can I dig deeper into the issue? Reviewing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sporadic log statement which I do not find back on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can I switch log levels for a component or the entire ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint for any of these two are much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And thanks for focussing back on the topic :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry my bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you explain what changes you've made to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to the point of something not working?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 6:04 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm. Again this has gone off towards debugging/logging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread from June).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone with proposals on how to include the Tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml as BJ indicated he had found a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workaround
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that involves this? BJ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 David E Jones<de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 10:39 AM, James McGill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:08 AM, BJ Freeman<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bjfree@free-man.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure why it worked in derby mode but not in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgresql.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it hung up on the tenant entity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but adding the tenant stuff into the entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am such a slouch I used one line of debug.loginfo to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someday I will put energy into the remote debugging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find remote debugging is extremely easy, using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way to step into minilang services -- they make remote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debugging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating, especially if you want to breakpoint an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can cheat a little sometimes with that. I regularly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <log level="always" message="${someVar}"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <transaction-rollback/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously not as good as breakpoints but you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep refreshing the browser to continually execute the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit the changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, IMO, when you don't have to worry about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile/run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logging better than break points and variable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspection. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little more typing, but a LOT less clicking and watching and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through data. In fact, IMO logging is faster when you don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about compilation making things intolerably slow. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command-line versus a purely graphical way of doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, to each their own... most programmers can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that they aren't used and/or wasn't their idea... ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: DocBook documentation, Multitenancy documentation was SOLVED getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555) June 10th nightly builds localpostnew

Posted by Hans Bakker <ma...@antwebsystems.com>.
Very good BJ, thanks for having another supporter of the docbook help
system.

Please put in jira, i will commit it.

Regards,
Hans

On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 05:44 -0800, BJ Freeman wrote:
> researching and developing the tools as I write this.
> 
> hopefully and christmas present to ofbiz.
> will put in Docbooks help when ready, via a jira.
> 
> 
> =========================
> BJ Freeman
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> 
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> 
> 
> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 5:23 AM:
> > "Webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and dochelp to wiki" ?
> > Where it is? An URL? A service?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
> >> sounds good, I hope you don't mind that I put my energy into the
> >> putting these into the ofbiz dochelp.
> >> http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML
> >> based on my email in Dev,
> >> I decided that it is more productive in my time to put everything in
> >> dockhelp and use webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and
> >> dochelp to wiki. Or what every format we decide, like the PDF and Html.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> =========================
> >> BJ Freeman
> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
> >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> >>
> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> >>
> >>
> >> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 2:12 AM:
> >>> I agree that it should be splitted. But IMO not in pages but clear
> >>> sections in the same page.
> >>> This because it's easier to find the same thing in the same page when
> >>> you are looking for the information without following a
> >>> specific path (ie when using search in wiki or even outside of the wiki)
> >>>
> >>>> From
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> You propose
> >>> Multitenancy Basic Architecture
> >>> Multitenancy for Automated self service
> >>> Multitenancy support
> >>>
> >>> I think we should 1st check/refactor the current page
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
> >>>
> >>> And then split in sections following the page you proposed but still in
> >>> the sole Multitenancy+support page
> >>>
> >>> Also we need to clean the Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz page
> >>> and at some point those pages should be move to OFBiz Technical
> >>> Documentation space. Though it's closed and there are less and less
> >>> efforts in the closed part of the wiki :/, which makes me wonder about
> >>> it...
> >>>
> >>> I will be happy to help, what do you think?
> >>>
> >>> Jacques
> >>>
> >>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
> >>>> I looked at
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
> >>>> and
> >>>> the focus seems to being diluted and confusing.
> >>>> I suggest some be moved to
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> as with different pages for different tenant architectures.
> >>>>
> >>>> =========================
> >>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
> >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> >>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> >>>>
> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 12/4/2010 11:45 AM:
> >>>>> thanks, no, will.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/4/2010 10:05 AM:
> >>>>>> You wrote
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
> >>>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> Base
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's what I was talking about. Did you explain it in the wiki page?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
> >>>>>>> can you clarify what you asking about, couple of key words would
> >>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think the answer is Yes, but not sure what I am saying yes to.
> >>>>>>> :D
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> =========================
> >>>>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
> >>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> >>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/3/2010 7:53 PM:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi BJ,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Did you get a change to add your way of doing it?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From: "Carsten Schinzer" <c....@googlemail.com>
> >>>>>>>> Yup, It's runnign here and soon for some customers.
> >>>>>>>> But you're right: I am not intending to do much of dynamic,
> >>>>>>>> self-service
> >>>>>>>> stuff since my offer looks more after "managed services" including
> >>>>>>>> data
> >>>>>>>> loads, configuration help etc.
> >>>>>>>> That's why I can still afford to have "maintenance windows" and my
> >>>>>>>> customers
> >>>>>>>> are local shops who mostly don't care when they can't access their
> >>>>>>>> tools
> >>>>>>>> during weekend-eve's (and we're all one single timeezone as well).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So forgive me if I have messed up anything in the documentation,
> >>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>> maybe
> >>>>>>>> it's worth we describe both ways in the online documentation?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> just a thought, you can use a schedule service to export entities
> >>>>>>>>> like is
> >>>>>>>>> done by webtools.
> >>>>>>>>> this gives you your data that has been added.
> >>>>>>>>> a timed service or cron job can run a svn update for your local
> >>>>>>>>> svn.
> >>>>>>>>> this gives you versoning, as well a reload abiliity, if necessary
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So your documentation of using the entityengine.xml and Ant for
> >>>>>>>>> tenant
> >>>>>>>>> says
> >>>>>>>>> that the whole tenant systems has to be shutdown, every time you
> >>>>>>>>> add a
> >>>>>>>>> tenant. i can see that for a intranet type of website, but not
> >>>>>>>>> for and
> >>>>>>>>> internet type of website. For an internet type you would have to
> >>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> scheduled maintainence, which mean the new client has to wait, or
> >>>>>>>>> daily
> >>>>>>>>> maintainence that means the other tenants are interrupted a lot.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have not looked at the code, but I don't think that those loaded
> >>>>>>>>> from the
> >>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml for tenants are access by the tenant code,
> >>>>>>>>> since it
> >>>>>>>>> is not
> >>>>>>>>> loaded into the cache for the entity TenantDataSource.
> >>>>>>>>> Have you run the setup you documented?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> =========================
> >>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> >>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> >>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 6:39 AM:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hm seems like I'm a console freak then ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I prefer controlled initial dataloads from a repository (to have
> >>>>>>>>>> version
> >>>>>>>>>> history). And I do a lot of catalogue management actually using
> >>>>>>>>>> XSLT and
> >>>>>>>>>> XML
> >>>>>>>>>> loads / uploads.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Well, too much operations minded from may day-job I guess.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the hint. Maybe also something that needs to be
> >>>>>>>>>> added to
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> wiki
> >>>>>>>>>> page?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman<bj...@free-man.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
> >>>>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup
> >>>>>>>>>>> from the
> >>>>>>>>>>> Base
> >>>>>>>>>>> (default) DB. A script is run that actually creates the DB based
> >>>>>>>>>>> on the
> >>>>>>>>>>> System setup, then added to the TenantDataSource. At this point
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> script
> >>>>>>>>>>> is not configurable and has to be modified based on how the
> >>>>>>>>>>> provider
> >>>>>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>>> their DB server set up.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The Seed data is loaded on the fly, not using Ant.
> >>>>>>>>>>> they are then switched to their DB
> >>>>>>>>>>> they are then sent to setup to build their system.
> >>>>>>>>>>> This includes providing images for logos and other parameters to
> >>>>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>>>>>> Themes, and that is loaded on the fly into their DB. this is
> >>>>>>>>>>> similar to
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> products Images but instead creates a theme for this tenant.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Based on the above the Tenant DB is stored in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> TenantDataSource
> >>>>>>>>>>> DB,
> >>>>>>>>>>> instead of the entityengine.xml, as it was originally
> >>>>>>>>>>> designed to
> >>>>>>>>>>> do. So
> >>>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>> restart of ofbiz is necessary.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the ant configuration, in my opinion should only be used to
> >>>>>>>>>>> setup
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> basic
> >>>>>>>>>>> Tenant system.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> =========================
> >>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 12:30 AM:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> All,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've done some extended research and have played around with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> configuration. I have taken the liberty to add my findings in a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> section
> >>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Multitenant Configuraiton at:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please review and let me know your comments if there are any.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I guess with this we can close the issue and make life
> >>>>>>>>>>>> easier for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> next
> >>>>>>>>>>>> multitenant users.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I really don't know much about the multi tenant functionality,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't used it. But yeah you do need that tenant group
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mapped
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource, it contains a set of tables that are needed in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> addition to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> separate tenant databases (I think).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 11:57 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, so possibly a mistake in the documents as the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> multitenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> would be defined in the config file placed on data/... (as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> above).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Using your aproach, I would be using the entityengine.xml to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> define any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource required?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then for data loading: How do I address a certain datasource?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had the idea to use defined readers like e.g.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <entity-data-reader name="ext-tenant1"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and define those readers only for the respective data
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that make sense?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll play around a little with this idea.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just one last question: What is the dedicated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TenantDatasources.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then used for at all? To map the datasource to the respective
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> logins?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Because irritatingly, this file also references jdbcUri,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcUsername
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcPassword. But all that I would have specified in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it looks like I'd update some documents once I found
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my way
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this. Stay tuned :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OOTB in 10.04 the delegator definition looks like this:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderby"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.tenant"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbytenant"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your one appears to be missing the last group-map for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.tenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that is the problem. I have no idea why you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and BJ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing that entry though, it was there before 10.04
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 9:42 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I digged out this old thread as the very same seemed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well. Here's a little context:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am aiming at multitenant along with PostGreSQL database,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created the DB for each tenant.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed entityengine.xml to use the localpostnew
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DataSource
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegator:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localpostnew"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course localpostnew is updated with connection string
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the respective postgres drivers are placed in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\lib\jdbc
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the multitenant info, i.e. the datasource setup for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenant's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database, went to the xml file in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\data\TenantDataSources.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the filename is different and is updated accordingly in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\ofbiz-component.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I choose the localderby datasource, everything goes just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> databases are generated, data loaded etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I change to the above configuration, i.e. using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> localpostnew,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throws an exception as follows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> COMMAND ISSUED:*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D:\__eclipse\ofbiz-multitenant>java -Xmx512m
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:MaxPermSize=128m
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed-initial -delegator=default
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CONSOLE OUTPUT:*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Set OFBIZ_HOME to - D:/__eclipse/ofbiz-multitenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (...)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,283 (main) [
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ModelReader.java:389:INFO ]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FINISHED
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOADING ENTITIES - ALL FILES; #Entities=849
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #ViewEntities=267
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Fields=8870
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Relationships=2925 #AutoRelationships=2157
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,392 (main) [
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericDelegator.java:244:INFO ]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> entity definition check...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,408 (main) [
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ModelEntityChecker.java:502:INFO ]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [initReservedWords] array length=1023
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.model.ModelEntityChecker.checkEntities(ModelEntityChecker.java:101)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.<init>(GenericDelegator.java:245)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,627 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ContainerLoader.java:113:INFO ] Shutting down containers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand the following:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - what is going wrong? OFBIZ seems to have issues with the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityfieldtypes for postnew. This is not observed for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBIZ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setups -- or no-one out there is using single instances on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgres
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release 10.04 or later.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - how can I dig deeper into the issue? Reviewing the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sporadic log statement which I do not find back on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can I switch log levels for a component or the entire ofbiz
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instance?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint for any of these two are much appreciated.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And thanks for focussing back on the topic :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry my bad.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you explain what changes you've made to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> got
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to the point of something not working?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 6:04 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm. Again this has gone off towards debugging/logging
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> older
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread from June).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone with proposals on how to include the Tenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml as BJ indicated he had found a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workaround
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that involves this? BJ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 David E Jones<de...@me.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 10:39 AM, James McGill wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:08 AM, BJ Freeman<
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bjfree@free-man.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure why it worked in derby mode but not in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgresql.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it hung up on the tenant entity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but adding the tenant stuff into the entityengine.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> errors.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am such a slouch I used one line of debug.loginfo to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someday I will put energy into the remote debugging.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :D
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find remote debugging is extremely easy, using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse. If
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way to step into minilang services -- they make remote
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debugging
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating, especially if you want to breakpoint an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECA.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can cheat a little sometimes with that. I regularly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <log level="always" message="${someVar}"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <transaction-rollback/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously not as good as breakpoints but you can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep refreshing the browser to continually execute the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit the changes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, IMO, when you don't have to worry about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile/run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logging better than break points and variable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspection. It
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little more typing, but a LOT less clicking and watching and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> through data. In fact, IMO logging is faster when you don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about compilation making things intolerably slow. It's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command-line versus a purely graphical way of doing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, to each their own... most programmers can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> something that they aren't used and/or wasn't their idea... ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 

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Re: DocBook documentation, Multitenancy documentation was SOLVED getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555) June 10th nightly builds localpostnew

Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
researching and developing the tools as I write this.

hopefully and christmas present to ofbiz.
will put in Docbooks help when ready, via a jira.


=========================
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 5:23 AM:
> "Webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and dochelp to wiki" ?
> Where it is? An URL? A service?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>> sounds good, I hope you don't mind that I put my energy into the
>> putting these into the ofbiz dochelp.
>> http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML
>> based on my email in Dev,
>> I decided that it is more productive in my time to put everything in
>> dockhelp and use webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and
>> dochelp to wiki. Or what every format we decide, like the PDF and Html.
>>
>>
>>
>> =========================
>> BJ Freeman
>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>
>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>
>>
>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 2:12 AM:
>>> I agree that it should be splitted. But IMO not in pages but clear
>>> sections in the same page.
>>> This because it's easier to find the same thing in the same page when
>>> you are looking for the information without following a
>>> specific path (ie when using search in wiki or even outside of the wiki)
>>>
>>>> From
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You propose
>>> Multitenancy Basic Architecture
>>> Multitenancy for Automated self service
>>> Multitenancy support
>>>
>>> I think we should 1st check/refactor the current page
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>>
>>> And then split in sections following the page you proposed but still in
>>> the sole Multitenancy+support page
>>>
>>> Also we need to clean the Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz page
>>> and at some point those pages should be move to OFBiz Technical
>>> Documentation space. Though it's closed and there are less and less
>>> efforts in the closed part of the wiki :/, which makes me wonder about
>>> it...
>>>
>>> I will be happy to help, what do you think?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>> I looked at
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>>> and
>>>> the focus seems to being diluted and confusing.
>>>> I suggest some be moved to
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> as with different pages for different tenant architectures.
>>>>
>>>> =========================
>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>
>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 12/4/2010 11:45 AM:
>>>>> thanks, no, will.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/4/2010 10:05 AM:
>>>>>> You wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Base
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what I was talking about. Did you explain it in the wiki page?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>> can you clarify what you asking about, couple of key words would
>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the answer is Yes, but not sure what I am saying yes to.
>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/3/2010 7:53 PM:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you get a change to add your way of doing it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Carsten Schinzer" <c....@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>> Yup, It's runnign here and soon for some customers.
>>>>>>>> But you're right: I am not intending to do much of dynamic,
>>>>>>>> self-service
>>>>>>>> stuff since my offer looks more after "managed services" including
>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>> loads, configuration help etc.
>>>>>>>> That's why I can still afford to have "maintenance windows" and my
>>>>>>>> customers
>>>>>>>> are local shops who mostly don't care when they can't access their
>>>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>>> during weekend-eve's (and we're all one single timeezone as well).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So forgive me if I have messed up anything in the documentation,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>> it's worth we describe both ways in the online documentation?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> just a thought, you can use a schedule service to export entities
>>>>>>>>> like is
>>>>>>>>> done by webtools.
>>>>>>>>> this gives you your data that has been added.
>>>>>>>>> a timed service or cron job can run a svn update for your local
>>>>>>>>> svn.
>>>>>>>>> this gives you versoning, as well a reload abiliity, if necessary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So your documentation of using the entityengine.xml and Ant for
>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>> that the whole tenant systems has to be shutdown, every time you
>>>>>>>>> add a
>>>>>>>>> tenant. i can see that for a intranet type of website, but not
>>>>>>>>> for and
>>>>>>>>> internet type of website. For an internet type you would have to
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> scheduled maintainence, which mean the new client has to wait, or
>>>>>>>>> daily
>>>>>>>>> maintainence that means the other tenants are interrupted a lot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have not looked at the code, but I don't think that those loaded
>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml for tenants are access by the tenant code,
>>>>>>>>> since it
>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>> loaded into the cache for the entity TenantDataSource.
>>>>>>>>> Have you run the setup you documented?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <
>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 6:39 AM:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hm seems like I'm a console freak then ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I prefer controlled initial dataloads from a repository (to have
>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>> history). And I do a lot of catalogue management actually using
>>>>>>>>>> XSLT and
>>>>>>>>>> XML
>>>>>>>>>> loads / uploads.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, too much operations minded from may day-job I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the hint. Maybe also something that needs to be
>>>>>>>>>> added to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> wiki
>>>>>>>>>> page?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman<bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup
>>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>> Base
>>>>>>>>>>> (default) DB. A script is run that actually creates the DB based
>>>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>> System setup, then added to the TenantDataSource. At this point
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>>>>>> is not configurable and has to be modified based on how the
>>>>>>>>>>> provider
>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>> their DB server set up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Seed data is loaded on the fly, not using Ant.
>>>>>>>>>>> they are then switched to their DB
>>>>>>>>>>> they are then sent to setup to build their system.
>>>>>>>>>>> This includes providing images for logos and other parameters to
>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>> Themes, and that is loaded on the fly into their DB. this is
>>>>>>>>>>> similar to
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> products Images but instead creates a theme for this tenant.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Based on the above the Tenant DB is stored in the
>>>>>>>>>>> TenantDataSource
>>>>>>>>>>> DB,
>>>>>>>>>>> instead of the entityengine.xml, as it was originally
>>>>>>>>>>> designed to
>>>>>>>>>>> do. So
>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>> restart of ofbiz is necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the ant configuration, in my opinion should only be used to
>>>>>>>>>>> setup
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> basic
>>>>>>>>>>> Tenant system.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 12:30 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've done some extended research and have played around with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration. I have taken the liberty to add my findings in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> Multitenant Configuraiton at:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please review and let me know your comments if there are any.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess with this we can close the issue and make life
>>>>>>>>>>>> easier for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>> multitenant users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I really don't know much about the multi tenant functionality,
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't used it. But yeah you do need that tenant group
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mapped
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource, it contains a set of tables that are needed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate tenant databases (I think).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 11:57 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, so possibly a mistake in the documents as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> multitenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be defined in the config file placed on data/... (as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using your aproach, I would be using the entityengine.xml to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> define any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource required?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then for data loading: How do I address a certain datasource?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had the idea to use defined readers like e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <entity-data-reader name="ext-tenant1"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and define those readers only for the respective data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that make sense?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll play around a little with this idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just one last question: What is the dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TenantDatasources.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then used for at all? To map the datasource to the respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logins?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because irritatingly, this file also references jdbcUri,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcUsername
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcPassword. But all that I would have specified in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it looks like I'd update some documents once I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this. Stay tuned :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OOTB in 10.04 the delegator definition looks like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderby"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.tenant"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbytenant"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your one appears to be missing the last group-map for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that is the problem. I have no idea why you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and BJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing that entry though, it was there before 10.04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 9:42 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I digged out this old thread as the very same seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well. Here's a little context:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am aiming at multitenant along with PostGreSQL database,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created the DB for each tenant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed entityengine.xml to use the localpostnew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DataSource
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegator:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localpostnew"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course localpostnew is updated with connection string
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the respective postgres drivers are placed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\lib\jdbc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the multitenant info, i.e. the datasource setup for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenant's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database, went to the xml file in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\data\TenantDataSources.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the filename is different and is updated accordingly in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I choose the localderby datasource, everything goes just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> databases are generated, data loaded etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I change to the above configuration, i.e. using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> localpostnew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throws an exception as follows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> COMMAND ISSUED:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D:\__eclipse\ofbiz-multitenant>java -Xmx512m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:MaxPermSize=128m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed-initial -delegator=default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CONSOLE OUTPUT:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Set OFBIZ_HOME to - D:/__eclipse/ofbiz-multitenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,283 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ModelReader.java:389:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FINISHED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOADING ENTITIES - ALL FILES; #Entities=849
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #ViewEntities=267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Fields=8870
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Relationships=2925 #AutoRelationships=2157
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,392 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericDelegator.java:244:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity definition check...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,408 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ModelEntityChecker.java:502:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [initReservedWords] array length=1023
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.model.ModelEntityChecker.checkEntities(ModelEntityChecker.java:101)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.<init>(GenericDelegator.java:245)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,627 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ContainerLoader.java:113:INFO ] Shutting down containers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - what is going wrong? OFBIZ seems to have issues with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityfieldtypes for postnew. This is not observed for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBIZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setups -- or no-one out there is using single instances on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release 10.04 or later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - how can I dig deeper into the issue? Reviewing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sporadic log statement which I do not find back on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can I switch log levels for a component or the entire ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint for any of these two are much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And thanks for focussing back on the topic :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry my bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you explain what changes you've made to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to the point of something not working?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 6:04 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm. Again this has gone off towards debugging/logging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread from June).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone with proposals on how to include the Tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml as BJ indicated he had found a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workaround
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that involves this? BJ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 David E Jones<de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 10:39 AM, James McGill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:08 AM, BJ Freeman<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bjfree@free-man.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure why it worked in derby mode but not in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgresql.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it hung up on the tenant entity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but adding the tenant stuff into the entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am such a slouch I used one line of debug.loginfo to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someday I will put energy into the remote debugging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find remote debugging is extremely easy, using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way to step into minilang services -- they make remote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debugging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating, especially if you want to breakpoint an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can cheat a little sometimes with that. I regularly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <log level="always" message="${someVar}"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <transaction-rollback/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously not as good as breakpoints but you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep refreshing the browser to continually execute the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit the changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, IMO, when you don't have to worry about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile/run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logging better than break points and variable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspection. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little more typing, but a LOT less clicking and watching and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> through data. In fact, IMO logging is faster when you don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about compilation making things intolerably slow. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command-line versus a purely graphical way of doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, to each their own... most programmers can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that they aren't used and/or wasn't their idea... ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>


Re: Multitenancy documentation was SOLVED getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555) June 10th nightly builds localpostnew

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
"Webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and dochelp to wiki" ?
Where it is? An URL? A service?

Thanks

Jacques

From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
> sounds good, I hope you don't mind that I put my energy into the putting these into the ofbiz dochelp.
> http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML
> based on my email in Dev,
> I decided that it is more productive in my time to put everything in dockhelp and use webtools converters to go from wiki to 
> dochelp and dochelp to wiki. Or what every format we decide, like the PDF and Html.
>
>
>
> =========================
> BJ Freeman
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>
>
> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 2:12 AM:
>> I agree that it should be splitted. But IMO not in pages but clear
>> sections in the same page.
>> This because it's easier to find the same thing in the same page when
>> you are looking for the information without following a
>> specific path (ie when using search in wiki or even outside of the wiki)
>>
>>> From
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
>>>
>>
>> You propose
>> Multitenancy Basic Architecture
>> Multitenancy for Automated self service
>> Multitenancy support
>>
>> I think we should 1st check/refactor the current page
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>
>> And then split in sections following the page you proposed but still in
>> the sole Multitenancy+support page
>>
>> Also we need to clean the Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz page
>> and at some point those pages should be move to OFBiz Technical
>> Documentation space. Though it's closed and there are less and less
>> efforts in the closed part of the wiki :/, which makes me wonder about
>> it...
>>
>> I will be happy to help, what do you think?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>>> I looked at
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>> and
>>> the focus seems to being diluted and confusing.
>>> I suggest some be moved to
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
>>>
>>> as with different pages for different tenant architectures.
>>>
>>> =========================
>>> BJ Freeman
>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>
>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 12/4/2010 11:45 AM:
>>>> thanks, no, will.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/4/2010 10:05 AM:
>>>>> You wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Base
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what I was talking about. Did you explain it in the wiki page?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>> can you clarify what you asking about, couple of key words would help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the answer is Yes, but not sure what I am saying yes to.
>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/3/2010 7:53 PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you get a change to add your way of doing it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Carsten Schinzer" <c....@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>> Yup, It's runnign here and soon for some customers.
>>>>>>> But you're right: I am not intending to do much of dynamic,
>>>>>>> self-service
>>>>>>> stuff since my offer looks more after "managed services" including
>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>> loads, configuration help etc.
>>>>>>> That's why I can still afford to have "maintenance windows" and my
>>>>>>> customers
>>>>>>> are local shops who mostly don't care when they can't access their
>>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>> during weekend-eve's (and we're all one single timeezone as well).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So forgive me if I have messed up anything in the documentation, but
>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>> it's worth we describe both ways in the online documentation?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just a thought, you can use a schedule service to export entities
>>>>>>>> like is
>>>>>>>> done by webtools.
>>>>>>>> this gives you your data that has been added.
>>>>>>>> a timed service or cron job can run a svn update for your local svn.
>>>>>>>> this gives you versoning, as well a reload abiliity, if necessary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So your documentation of using the entityengine.xml and Ant for
>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>> that the whole tenant systems has to be shutdown, every time you
>>>>>>>> add a
>>>>>>>> tenant. i can see that for a intranet type of website, but not
>>>>>>>> for and
>>>>>>>> internet type of website. For an internet type you would have to
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> scheduled maintainence, which mean the new client has to wait, or
>>>>>>>> daily
>>>>>>>> maintainence that means the other tenants are interrupted a lot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have not looked at the code, but I don't think that those loaded
>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml for tenants are access by the tenant code, since it
>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>> loaded into the cache for the entity TenantDataSource.
>>>>>>>> Have you run the setup you documented?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <
>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 6:39 AM:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hm seems like I'm a console freak then ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I prefer controlled initial dataloads from a repository (to have
>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> history). And I do a lot of catalogue management actually using
>>>>>>>>> XSLT and
>>>>>>>>> XML
>>>>>>>>> loads / uploads.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, too much operations minded from may day-job I guess.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the hint. Maybe also something that needs to be added to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> wiki
>>>>>>>>> page?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman<bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup
>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>> Base
>>>>>>>>>> (default) DB. A script is run that actually creates the DB based
>>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>> System setup, then added to the TenantDataSource. At this point
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>>>>> is not configurable and has to be modified based on how the
>>>>>>>>>> provider
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> their DB server set up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Seed data is loaded on the fly, not using Ant.
>>>>>>>>>> they are then switched to their DB
>>>>>>>>>> they are then sent to setup to build their system.
>>>>>>>>>> This includes providing images for logos and other parameters to
>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> Themes, and that is loaded on the fly into their DB. this is
>>>>>>>>>> similar to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> products Images but instead creates a theme for this tenant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Based on the above the Tenant DB is stored in the TenantDataSource
>>>>>>>>>> DB,
>>>>>>>>>> instead of the entityengine.xml, as it was originally designed to
>>>>>>>>>> do. So
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> restart of ofbiz is necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the ant configuration, in my opinion should only be used to setup
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> basic
>>>>>>>>>> Tenant system.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 12:30 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've done some extended research and have played around with the
>>>>>>>>>>> configuration. I have taken the liberty to add my findings in a
>>>>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> Multitenant Configuraiton at:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please review and let me know your comments if there are any.
>>>>>>>>>>> I guess with this we can close the issue and make life easier for
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>> multitenant users.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I really don't know much about the multi tenant functionality,
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't used it. But yeah you do need that tenant group mapped
>>>>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource, it contains a set of tables that are needed in
>>>>>>>>>>>> addition to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> separate tenant databases (I think).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 11:57 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, so possibly a mistake in the documents as the multitenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> would be defined in the config file placed on data/... (as
>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> above).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Using your aproach, I would be using the entityengine.xml to
>>>>>>>>>>>> define any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource required?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then for data loading: How do I address a certain datasource?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had the idea to use defined readers like e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <entity-data-reader name="ext-tenant1"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and define those readers only for the respective data sources.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that make sense?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll play around a little with this idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just one last question: What is the dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TenantDatasources.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then used for at all? To map the datasource to the respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logins?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Because irritatingly, this file also references jdbcUri,
>>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcUsername
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcPassword. But all that I would have specified in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it looks like I'd update some documents once I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this. Stay tuned :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OOTB in 10.04 the delegator definition looks like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderby"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.tenant"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbytenant"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your one appears to be missing the last group-map for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that is the problem. I have no idea why you and BJ
>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing that entry though, it was there before 10.04 existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 9:42 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I digged out this old thread as the very same seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well. Here's a little context:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am aiming at multitenant along with PostGreSQL database,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created the DB for each tenant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed entityengine.xml to use the localpostnew DataSource
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegator:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localpostnew"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course localpostnew is updated with connection string
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the respective postgres drivers are placed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\lib\jdbc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the multitenant info, i.e. the datasource setup for each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenant's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database, went to the xml file in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\data\TenantDataSources.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the filename is different and is updated accordingly in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I choose the localderby datasource, everything goes just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> databases are generated, data loaded etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I change to the above configuration, i.e. using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> localpostnew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throws an exception as follows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> COMMAND ISSUED:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D:\__eclipse\ofbiz-multitenant>java -Xmx512m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:MaxPermSize=128m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed-initial -delegator=default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CONSOLE OUTPUT:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Set OFBIZ_HOME to - D:/__eclipse/ofbiz-multitenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,283 (main) [ ModelReader.java:389:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FINISHED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOADING ENTITIES - ALL FILES; #Entities=849 #ViewEntities=267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Fields=8870
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Relationships=2925 #AutoRelationships=2157
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,392 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericDelegator.java:244:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> entity definition check...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,408 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ModelEntityChecker.java:502:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [initReservedWords] array length=1023
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.model.ModelEntityChecker.checkEntities(ModelEntityChecker.java:101)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.<init>(GenericDelegator.java:245)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,627 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ContainerLoader.java:113:INFO ] Shutting down containers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - what is going wrong? OFBIZ seems to have issues with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityfieldtypes for postnew. This is not observed for single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBIZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setups -- or no-one out there is using single instances on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release 10.04 or later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - how can I dig deeper into the issue? Reviewing the classes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sporadic log statement which I do not find back on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can I switch log levels for a component or the entire ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint for any of these two are much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And thanks for focussing back on the topic :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry my bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you explain what changes you've made to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to the point of something not working?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 6:04 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm. Again this has gone off towards debugging/logging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread from June).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone with proposals on how to include the Tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml as BJ indicated he had found a workaround
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that involves this? BJ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 David E Jones<de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 10:39 AM, James McGill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:08 AM, BJ Freeman<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bjfree@free-man.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure why it worked in derby mode but not in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgresql.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it hung up on the tenant entity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but adding the tenant stuff into the entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am such a slouch I used one line of debug.loginfo to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someday I will put energy into the remote debugging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find remote debugging is extremely easy, using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way to step into minilang services -- they make remote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debugging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating, especially if you want to breakpoint an ECA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can cheat a little sometimes with that. I regularly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <log level="always" message="${someVar}"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <transaction-rollback/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously not as good as breakpoints but you can move it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep refreshing the browser to continually execute the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit the changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, IMO, when you don't have to worry about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile/run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logging better than break points and variable inspection. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little more typing, but a LOT less clicking and watching and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> through data. In fact, IMO logging is faster when you don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about compilation making things intolerably slow. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command-line versus a purely graphical way of doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, to each their own... most programmers can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> something that they aren't used and/or wasn't their idea... ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> 



Re: Multitenancy documentation was SOLVED getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555) June 10th nightly builds localpostnew

Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
sounds good, I hope you don't mind that I put my energy into the putting 
these into the ofbiz dochelp.
http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML
based on my email in Dev,
I decided that it is more productive in my time to put everything in 
dockhelp and use webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and 
dochelp to wiki. Or what every format we decide, like the PDF and Html.



=========================
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Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 2:12 AM:
> I agree that it should be splitted. But IMO not in pages but clear
> sections in the same page.
> This because it's easier to find the same thing in the same page when
> you are looking for the information without following a
> specific path (ie when using search in wiki or even outside of the wiki)
>
>> From
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
>>
>
> You propose
> Multitenancy Basic Architecture
> Multitenancy for Automated self service
> Multitenancy support
>
> I think we should 1st check/refactor the current page
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>
> And then split in sections following the page you proposed but still in
> the sole Multitenancy+support page
>
> Also we need to clean the Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz page
> and at some point those pages should be move to OFBiz Technical
> Documentation space. Though it's closed and there are less and less
> efforts in the closed part of the wiki :/, which makes me wonder about
> it...
>
> I will be happy to help, what do you think?
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>> I looked at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>> and
>> the focus seems to being diluted and confusing.
>> I suggest some be moved to
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
>>
>> as with different pages for different tenant architectures.
>>
>> =========================
>> BJ Freeman
>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>
>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>
>>
>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 12/4/2010 11:45 AM:
>>> thanks, no, will.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/4/2010 10:05 AM:
>>>> You wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Base
>>>>
>>>> That's what I was talking about. Did you explain it in the wiki page?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>> can you clarify what you asking about, couple of key words would help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the answer is Yes, but not sure what I am saying yes to.
>>>>> :D
>>>>>
>>>>> =========================
>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>
>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/3/2010 7:53 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you get a change to add your way of doing it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Carsten Schinzer" <c....@googlemail.com>
>>>>>> Yup, It's runnign here and soon for some customers.
>>>>>> But you're right: I am not intending to do much of dynamic,
>>>>>> self-service
>>>>>> stuff since my offer looks more after "managed services" including
>>>>>> data
>>>>>> loads, configuration help etc.
>>>>>> That's why I can still afford to have "maintenance windows" and my
>>>>>> customers
>>>>>> are local shops who mostly don't care when they can't access their
>>>>>> tools
>>>>>> during weekend-eve's (and we're all one single timeezone as well).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So forgive me if I have messed up anything in the documentation, but
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>> it's worth we describe both ways in the online documentation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just a thought, you can use a schedule service to export entities
>>>>>>> like is
>>>>>>> done by webtools.
>>>>>>> this gives you your data that has been added.
>>>>>>> a timed service or cron job can run a svn update for your local svn.
>>>>>>> this gives you versoning, as well a reload abiliity, if necessary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So your documentation of using the entityengine.xml and Ant for
>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>> that the whole tenant systems has to be shutdown, every time you
>>>>>>> add a
>>>>>>> tenant. i can see that for a intranet type of website, but not
>>>>>>> for and
>>>>>>> internet type of website. For an internet type you would have to
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> scheduled maintainence, which mean the new client has to wait, or
>>>>>>> daily
>>>>>>> maintainence that means the other tenants are interrupted a lot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have not looked at the code, but I don't think that those loaded
>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>> entityengine.xml for tenants are access by the tenant code, since it
>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>> loaded into the cache for the entity TenantDataSource.
>>>>>>> Have you run the setup you documented?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <
>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 6:39 AM:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hm seems like I'm a console freak then ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I prefer controlled initial dataloads from a repository (to have
>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>> history). And I do a lot of catalogue management actually using
>>>>>>>> XSLT and
>>>>>>>> XML
>>>>>>>> loads / uploads.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, too much operations minded from may day-job I guess.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the hint. Maybe also something that needs to be added to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> wiki
>>>>>>>> page?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman<bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup
>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>> Base
>>>>>>>>> (default) DB. A script is run that actually creates the DB based
>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>> System setup, then added to the TenantDataSource. At this point
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>>>> is not configurable and has to be modified based on how the
>>>>>>>>> provider
>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>> their DB server set up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Seed data is loaded on the fly, not using Ant.
>>>>>>>>> they are then switched to their DB
>>>>>>>>> they are then sent to setup to build their system.
>>>>>>>>> This includes providing images for logos and other parameters to
>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> Themes, and that is loaded on the fly into their DB. this is
>>>>>>>>> similar to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> products Images but instead creates a theme for this tenant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Based on the above the Tenant DB is stored in the TenantDataSource
>>>>>>>>> DB,
>>>>>>>>> instead of the entityengine.xml, as it was originally designed to
>>>>>>>>> do. So
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> restart of ofbiz is necessary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the ant configuration, in my opinion should only be used to setup
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> basic
>>>>>>>>> Tenant system.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<
>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 12:30 AM:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've done some extended research and have played around with the
>>>>>>>>>> configuration. I have taken the liberty to add my findings in a
>>>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> Multitenant Configuraiton at:
>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please review and let me know your comments if there are any.
>>>>>>>>>> I guess with this we can close the issue and make life easier for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>> multitenant users.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I really don't know much about the multi tenant functionality,
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't used it. But yeah you do need that tenant group mapped
>>>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>>>> datasource, it contains a set of tables that are needed in
>>>>>>>>>>> addition to
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> separate tenant databases (I think).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 11:57 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, so possibly a mistake in the documents as the multitenant
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> would be defined in the config file placed on data/... (as
>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> above).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Using your aproach, I would be using the entityengine.xml to
>>>>>>>>>>> define any
>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource required?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then for data loading: How do I address a certain datasource?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had the idea to use defined readers like e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>>> <entity-data-reader name="ext-tenant1"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and define those readers only for the respective data sources.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that make sense?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip!
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll play around a little with this idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just one last question: What is the dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>> TenantDatasources.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>> then used for at all? To map the datasource to the respective
>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> logins?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Because irritatingly, this file also references jdbcUri,
>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcUsername
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcPassword. But all that I would have specified in
>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it looks like I'd update some documents once I found
>>>>>>>>>>>> my way
>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>> this. Stay tuned :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OOTB in 10.04 the delegator definition looks like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderby"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.tenant"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbytenant"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your one appears to be missing the last group-map for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that is the problem. I have no idea why you and BJ
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing that entry though, it was there before 10.04 existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 9:42 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I digged out this old thread as the very same seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well. Here's a little context:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am aiming at multitenant along with PostGreSQL database,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created the DB for each tenant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed entityengine.xml to use the localpostnew DataSource
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegator:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localpostnew"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course localpostnew is updated with connection string
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the respective postgres drivers are placed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\lib\jdbc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the multitenant info, i.e. the datasource setup for each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenant's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database, went to the xml file in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\data\TenantDataSources.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the filename is different and is updated accordingly in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I choose the localderby datasource, everything goes just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> databases are generated, data loaded etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I change to the above configuration, i.e. using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> localpostnew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throws an exception as follows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> COMMAND ISSUED:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D:\__eclipse\ofbiz-multitenant>java -Xmx512m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:MaxPermSize=128m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed-initial -delegator=default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CONSOLE OUTPUT:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Set OFBIZ_HOME to - D:/__eclipse/ofbiz-multitenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,283 (main) [ ModelReader.java:389:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FINISHED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOADING ENTITIES - ALL FILES; #Entities=849 #ViewEntities=267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Fields=8870
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Relationships=2925 #AutoRelationships=2157
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,392 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericDelegator.java:244:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> entity definition check...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,408 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ModelEntityChecker.java:502:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [initReservedWords] array length=1023
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.model.ModelEntityChecker.checkEntities(ModelEntityChecker.java:101)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.<init>(GenericDelegator.java:245)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,627 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ContainerLoader.java:113:INFO ] Shutting down containers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - what is going wrong? OFBIZ seems to have issues with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityfieldtypes for postnew. This is not observed for single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBIZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> setups -- or no-one out there is using single instances on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release 10.04 or later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - how can I dig deeper into the issue? Reviewing the classes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sporadic log statement which I do not find back on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can I switch log levels for a component or the entire ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint for any of these two are much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And thanks for focussing back on the topic :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry my bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you explain what changes you've made to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to the point of something not working?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 6:04 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm. Again this has gone off towards debugging/logging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> older
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread from June).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone with proposals on how to include the Tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml as BJ indicated he had found a workaround
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that involves this? BJ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 David E Jones<de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 10:39 AM, James McGill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:08 AM, BJ Freeman<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bjfree@free-man.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure why it worked in derby mode but not in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgresql.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it hung up on the tenant entity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but adding the tenant stuff into the entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am such a slouch I used one line of debug.loginfo to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someday I will put energy into the remote debugging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find remote debugging is extremely easy, using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way to step into minilang services -- they make remote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debugging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating, especially if you want to breakpoint an ECA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can cheat a little sometimes with that. I regularly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <log level="always" message="${someVar}"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <transaction-rollback/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously not as good as breakpoints but you can move it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep refreshing the browser to continually execute the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit the changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, IMO, when you don't have to worry about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile/run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logging better than break points and variable inspection. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> little more typing, but a LOT less clicking and watching and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> through data. In fact, IMO logging is faster when you don't
>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about compilation making things intolerably slow. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command-line versus a purely graphical way of doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, to each their own... most programmers can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> something that they aren't used and/or wasn't their idea... ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>


Re: Re:Multitenancy documentation was SOLVED getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555) June 10th nightly builds localpostnew

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
I agree that it should be splitted. But IMO not in pages but clear sections in the same page.
This because it's easier to find the same thing in the same page when you are looking for the information without following a
specific path (ie when using search in wiki or even outside of the wiki)

>From https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz

You propose
Multitenancy Basic Architecture
Multitenancy for Automated self service
Multitenancy support

I think we should 1st check/refactor the current page
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support

And then split in sections following the page you proposed but still in the sole Multitenancy+support page

Also we need to clean the Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz page and at some point those pages should be move to OFBiz 
Technical Documentation space. Though it's closed and there are less and less efforts in the closed part of the wiki :/, which makes 
me wonder about it...

I will be happy to help, what do you think?

Jacques

From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>I looked at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
> and
> the focus seems to being diluted and confusing.
> I suggest some be moved to
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
> as with different pages for different tenant architectures.
>
> =========================
> BJ Freeman
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>
>
> BJ Freeman sent the following on 12/4/2010 11:45 AM:
>> thanks, no, will.
>>
>>
>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/4/2010 10:05 AM:
>>> You wrote
>>>
>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from the
>>>>>>> Base
>>>
>>> That's what I was talking about. Did you explain it in the wiki page?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>> can you clarify what you asking about, couple of key words would help.
>>>>
>>>> I think the answer is Yes, but not sure what I am saying yes to.
>>>> :D
>>>>
>>>> =========================
>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>
>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>
>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/3/2010 7:53 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you get a change to add your way of doing it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Carsten Schinzer" <c....@googlemail.com>
>>>>> Yup, It's runnign here and soon for some customers.
>>>>> But you're right: I am not intending to do much of dynamic,
>>>>> self-service
>>>>> stuff since my offer looks more after "managed services" including data
>>>>> loads, configuration help etc.
>>>>> That's why I can still afford to have "maintenance windows" and my
>>>>> customers
>>>>> are local shops who mostly don't care when they can't access their
>>>>> tools
>>>>> during weekend-eve's (and we're all one single timeezone as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> So forgive me if I have messed up anything in the documentation, but
>>>>> maybe
>>>>> it's worth we describe both ways in the online documentation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>> just a thought, you can use a schedule service to export entities
>>>>>> like is
>>>>>> done by webtools.
>>>>>> this gives you your data that has been added.
>>>>>> a timed service or cron job can run a svn update for your local svn.
>>>>>> this gives you versoning, as well a reload abiliity, if necessary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So your documentation of using the entityengine.xml and Ant for tenant
>>>>>> says
>>>>>> that the whole tenant systems has to be shutdown, every time you add a
>>>>>> tenant. i can see that for a intranet type of website, but not for and
>>>>>> internet type of website. For an internet type you would have to have
>>>>>> scheduled maintainence, which mean the new client has to wait, or
>>>>>> daily
>>>>>> maintainence that means the other tenants are interrupted a lot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have not looked at the code, but I don't think that those loaded
>>>>>> from the
>>>>>> entityengine.xml for tenants are access by the tenant code, since it
>>>>>> is not
>>>>>> loaded into the cache for the entity TenantDataSource.
>>>>>> Have you run the setup you documented?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <
>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 6:39 AM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hm seems like I'm a console freak then ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I prefer controlled initial dataloads from a repository (to have
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>> history). And I do a lot of catalogue management actually using
>>>>>>> XSLT and
>>>>>>> XML
>>>>>>> loads / uploads.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, too much operations minded from may day-job I guess.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the hint. Maybe also something that needs to be added to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> wiki
>>>>>>> page?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman<bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from the
>>>>>>>> Base
>>>>>>>> (default) DB. A script is run that actually creates the DB based
>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>> System setup, then added to the TenantDataSource. At this point the
>>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>>> is not configurable and has to be modified based on how the provider
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> their DB server set up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Seed data is loaded on the fly, not using Ant.
>>>>>>>> they are then switched to their DB
>>>>>>>> they are then sent to setup to build their system.
>>>>>>>> This includes providing images for logos and other parameters to
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> Themes, and that is loaded on the fly into their DB. this is
>>>>>>>> similar to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> products Images but instead creates a theme for this tenant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Based on the above the Tenant DB is stored in the TenantDataSource
>>>>>>>> DB,
>>>>>>>> instead of the entityengine.xml, as it was originally designed to
>>>>>>>> do. So
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> restart of ofbiz is necessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the ant configuration, in my opinion should only be used to setup
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> basic
>>>>>>>> Tenant system.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<
>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 12:30 AM:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've done some extended research and have played around with the
>>>>>>>>> configuration. I have taken the liberty to add my findings in a
>>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> Multitenant Configuraiton at:
>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please review and let me know your comments if there are any.
>>>>>>>>> I guess with this we can close the issue and make life easier for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>> multitenant users.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I really don't know much about the multi tenant functionality, it's
>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't used it. But yeah you do need that tenant group mapped
>>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>>> datasource, it contains a set of tables that are needed in
>>>>>>>>>> addition to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> separate tenant databases (I think).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 11:57 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, so possibly a mistake in the documents as the multitenant
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> would be defined in the config file placed on data/... (as
>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> above).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Using your aproach, I would be using the entityengine.xml to
>>>>>>>>>> define any
>>>>>>>>>>> datasource required?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then for data loading: How do I address a certain datasource?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I had the idea to use defined readers like e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>> <entity-data-reader name="ext-tenant1"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and define those readers only for the respective data sources.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does that make sense?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip!
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll play around a little with this idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just one last question: What is the dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>> TenantDatasources.xml
>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>> then used for at all? To map the datasource to the respective
>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> logins?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because irritatingly, this file also references jdbcUri,
>>>>>>>>>> jdbcUsername
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcPassword. But all that I would have specified in
>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it looks like I'd update some documents once I found my way
>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>> this. Stay tuned :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OOTB in 10.04 the delegator definition looks like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderby"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.tenant"
>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbytenant"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your one appears to be missing the last group-map for
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that is the problem. I have no idea why you and BJ
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> missing that entry though, it was there before 10.04 existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 9:42 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I digged out this old thread as the very same seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> as well. Here's a little context:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am aiming at multitenant along with PostGreSQL database,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> created the DB for each tenant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed entityengine.xml to use the localpostnew DataSource
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> delegator:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localpostnew"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course localpostnew is updated with connection string
>>>>>>>>>>>>> info as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the respective postgres drivers are placed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\lib\jdbc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the multitenant info, i.e. the datasource setup for each
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenant's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> database, went to the xml file in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\data\TenantDataSources.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the filename is different and is updated accordingly in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I choose the localderby datasource, everything goes just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> databases are generated, data loaded etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I change to the above configuration, i.e. using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> localpostnew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> throws an exception as follows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> COMMAND ISSUED:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> D:\__eclipse\ofbiz-multitenant>java -Xmx512m
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:MaxPermSize=128m
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed-initial -delegator=default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CONSOLE OUTPUT:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Set OFBIZ_HOME to - D:/__eclipse/ofbiz-multitenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,283 (main) [ ModelReader.java:389:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FINISHED
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOADING ENTITIES - ALL FILES; #Entities=849 #ViewEntities=267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Fields=8870
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> #Relationships=2925 #AutoRelationships=2157
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,392 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericDelegator.java:244:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> entity definition check...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,408 (main) [
>>>>>>>>>>>> ModelEntityChecker.java:502:INFO ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [initReservedWords] array length=1023
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.model.ModelEntityChecker.checkEntities(ModelEntityChecker.java:101)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.<init>(GenericDelegator.java:245)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,627 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ContainerLoader.java:113:INFO ] Shutting down containers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - what is going wrong? OFBIZ seems to have issues with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityfieldtypes for postnew. This is not observed for single
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBIZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> setups -- or no-one out there is using single instances on
>>>>>>>>>>>> postgres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> release 10.04 or later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - how can I dig deeper into the issue? Reviewing the classes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sporadic log statement which I do not find back on the console,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> can I switch log levels for a component or the entire ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint for any of these two are much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And thanks for focussing back on the topic :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry my bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you explain what changes you've made to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you to the point of something not working?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 6:04 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm. Again this has gone off towards debugging/logging (just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> older
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread from June).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone with proposals on how to include the Tenant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml as BJ indicated he had found a workaround
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> that involves this? BJ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 David E Jones<de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 10:39 AM, James McGill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:08 AM, BJ Freeman<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bjfree@free-man.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure why it worked in derby mode but not in postgresql.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it hung up on the tenant entity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but adding the tenant stuff into the entityengine.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am such a slouch I used one line of debug.loginfo to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someday I will put energy into the remote debugging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find remote debugging is extremely easy, using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way to step into minilang services -- they make remote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debugging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating, especially if you want to breakpoint an ECA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can cheat a little sometimes with that. I regularly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <log level="always" message="${someVar}"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <transaction-rollback/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously not as good as breakpoints but you can move it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep refreshing the browser to continually execute the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> commit the changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, IMO, when you don't have to worry about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile/run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logging better than break points and variable inspection. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> little more typing, but a LOT less clicking and watching and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> through data. In fact, IMO logging is faster when you don't
>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about compilation making things intolerably slow. It's kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command-line versus a purely graphical way of doing things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, to each their own... most programmers can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> something that they aren't used and/or wasn't their idea... ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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