Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

["Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>]

On Oct 29, 2004, at 4:43 PM, Paul Russell wrote:

> Guys,
>
> On 26 Oct 2004, at 09:02, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>> On Oct 26, 2004, at 3:27 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
>>> Very practically,  what is the conclusion of this discussion ? :)
>> Not sure if one is required.  I don't think solving the TLP problem 
>> is a good idea now because we're going to learn a lot more as time 
>> goes on.  I'm optimistic that we'll go that way at the end, but lets 
>> decide that later.  If we have enough size and strength to be a TLP, 
>> we do it.  If not, we don't. Until then, lets try and build some 
>> really great software and a great community.
>> I do think that working to have BPEL implementation at the ASF is a 
>> great idea, and while I'm 100% committed to seeing it a part of 
>> Agila, it doesn't have to only be in Agila.  For example, we could 
>> have a BPEL engine as part of the project that can be used standalone 
>> or inside Agila.
>
> Indeed! I might have missed some mails on this (personal 
> infrastructure problems -- was dropping lots of mails the beginning 
> half of this week), so forgive me if I'm covering old ground, but I'd 
> advocate a 'test and learn' approach here -- Why don't we incubate the 
> two projects separately for a while. It'll become obvious if they 
> should be merged or not, and I can't see any reason why merging two 
> projects in the incubator would be a problem?
>
> Does that seem reasonable, or am I being dumb?

I'd do it the other way :)  We'd have better strength in numbers as a 
community, and we don't have to glom the codebases together, so neither 
identity is "lost" to the other.  We can always split later....

geir

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Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

[Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>]

Yep, I agree with that. And if that's the choice, the two codebases
should be merged ASAP too. The more we wait, the more painful the
merging will be. I wouldn't like having to throw away half of
Twister's code in the process...


On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 03:14:23 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 29, 2004, at 4:43 PM, Paul Russell wrote:
> 
> > Guys,
> >
> > On 26 Oct 2004, at 09:02, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> >> On Oct 26, 2004, at 3:27 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
> >>> Very practically,  what is the conclusion of this discussion ? :)
> >> Not sure if one is required.  I don't think solving the TLP problem
> >> is a good idea now because we're going to learn a lot more as time
> >> goes on.  I'm optimistic that we'll go that way at the end, but lets
> >> decide that later.  If we have enough size and strength to be a TLP,
> >> we do it.  If not, we don't. Until then, lets try and build some
> >> really great software and a great community.
> >> I do think that working to have BPEL implementation at the ASF is a
> >> great idea, and while I'm 100% committed to seeing it a part of
> >> Agila, it doesn't have to only be in Agila.  For example, we could
> >> have a BPEL engine as part of the project that can be used standalone
> >> or inside Agila.
> >
> > Indeed! I might have missed some mails on this (personal
> > infrastructure problems -- was dropping lots of mails the beginning
> > half of this week), so forgive me if I'm covering old ground, but I'd
> > advocate a 'test and learn' approach here -- Why don't we incubate the
> > two projects separately for a while. It'll become obvious if they
> > should be merged or not, and I can't see any reason why merging two
> > projects in the incubator would be a problem?
> >
> > Does that seem reasonable, or am I being dumb?
> 
> I'd do it the other way :)  We'd have better strength in numbers as a
> community, and we don't have to glom the codebases together, so neither
> identity is "lost" to the other.  We can always split later....
> 
> geir
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Russell
> > E-mail: prussell@apache.org
> > iChat/AIM: russelp@mac.com
> >
> --
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> geirm@apache.org
> 
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