[OT] getting no mails from Apache (again)

[Joerg Heinicke <jo...@gmx.de>]

Hello,

it's now the second time that I don't get any mail from Apache, though 
I'm subscribed to several lists. Because I'm not the only one using GMX 
I wanted to ask if anybody else has problems receiving Apache mails. 
They simply seem to stop without any particular reason - and the last 
time after some weeks I got the mails again, also without any reason. 
It's not a problem of subscribing, the mails simply don't come through 
from Apache to GMX. After the outage the last time I got big mails from 
Apache mailing software ezmlm that it could not deliver the mails with 
"host not found" or something similar. But I don't want to take my 
Apache address (I have now resubscribed with it for receiving the mails) 
for writing mails as long as I can not use my Mozilla mail for it. I'm 
not that shortcut junkie, that likes to use pine ...

One of the last mails I got yesterday is 54342 at 
users@cocoon.apache.org. I didn't receive my own reply on this mail 54346.
(Maybe this helps for finding out the reason.)

Joerg

Re: [OT] getting no mails from Apache (again)

[Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>]

Joerg, did you get my last mail about unreliability to gmx.de and gmx.net
from apache.org?  I regularly see messages destined for those two domains
stuck in the queue for the maximum allowed length of time (3 days), at
which point they bounce.  Based on this, I would not recommend using them
for significant amounts of email traffic.

	Brian

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Joerg Heinicke wrote:
> Thanks for the information, Reinhard. Though this time it took less than
> 2 days I switched to my company address.
>
> The only thing I find really strange, is the fact, that the mails were
> correctly forwarded from apache.org to gmx.de (subscription with
> joerg@apache.org), but at the same time I don't get the mails from
> Apache mailing lists (subscription with joerg.heinicke@gmx.de).
>
> Joerg

Re: [OT] getting no mails from Apache (again)

[Joerg Heinicke <jh...@virbus.de>]

Thanks for the information, Reinhard. Though this time it took less than 
2 days I switched to my company address.

The only thing I find really strange, is the fact, that the mails were 
correctly forwarded from apache.org to gmx.de (subscription with 
joerg@apache.org), but at the same time I don't get the mails from 
Apache mailing lists (subscription with joerg.heinicke@gmx.de).

Joerg

Reinhard Pötz wrote:

> Hi Jörg,
> 
> I also have problems with my Apache mails and I asked apmail@apache.org
> some days ago similar questions. Brian Behlendorf responded:
> 
> "...for some reason, mail destined for gmx.net frequently goes for days
> without being deliverable.  I can't tell you why, only the gmx.net
> admins can.  If a message can not be delivered for 3 days, it is
> bounced; so now that (if!) gmx.net mail is working, you will probably
> get messages from mailing lists you were on either probing to see if the
> account is still bouncing, or letting you know you were removed (though
> those messages may have bounced as well).  I would strongly recommend
> that you choose some other mail provider.  In the past I have added
> gmx.net to the list of domains to bounce immediately in an attempt to
> clean up the delivery queue a bit; I'll try not to do that next time."
> 
> HTH
> Cheers,
> Reinhard
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joerg Heinicke [mailto:joerg.heinicke@gmx.de] 
>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>it's now the second time that I don't get any mail from 
>>Apache, though 
>>I'm subscribed to several lists. Because I'm not the only one 
>>using GMX 
>>I wanted to ask if anybody else has problems receiving Apache mails. 
>>They simply seem to stop without any particular reason - and the last 
>>time after some weeks I got the mails again, also without any reason. 
>>It's not a problem of subscribing, the mails simply don't 
>>come through 
>>from Apache to GMX. After the outage the last time I got big 
>>mails from 
>>Apache mailing software ezmlm that it could not deliver the 
>>mails with 
>>"host not found" or something similar. But I don't want to take my 
>>Apache address (I have now resubscribed with it for receiving 
>>the mails) 
>>for writing mails as long as I can not use my Mozilla mail 
>>for it. I'm 
>>not that shortcut junkie, that likes to use pine ...
>>
>>One of the last mails I got yesterday is 54342 at 
>>users@cocoon.apache.org. I didn't receive my own reply on 
>>this mail 54346. (Maybe this helps for finding out the reason.)
>>
>>Joerg

RE: [OT] getting no mails from Apache (again)

[Reinhard Pötz <re...@gmx.net>]

Hi Jörg,

I also have problems with my Apache mails and I asked apmail@apache.org
some days ago similar questions. Brian Behlendorf responded:

"...for some reason, mail destined for gmx.net frequently goes for days
without being deliverable.  I can't tell you why, only the gmx.net
admins can.  If a message can not be delivered for 3 days, it is
bounced; so now that (if!) gmx.net mail is working, you will probably
get messages from mailing lists you were on either probing to see if the
account is still bouncing, or letting you know you were removed (though
those messages may have bounced as well).  I would strongly recommend
that you choose some other mail provider.  In the past I have added
gmx.net to the list of domains to bounce immediately in an attempt to
clean up the delivery queue a bit; I'll try not to do that next time."

HTH
Cheers,
Reinhard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joerg Heinicke [mailto:joerg.heinicke@gmx.de] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 4:19 PM
> To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
> Cc: infrastructure@apache.org
> Subject: [OT] getting no mails from Apache (again)
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> it's now the second time that I don't get any mail from 
> Apache, though 
> I'm subscribed to several lists. Because I'm not the only one 
> using GMX 
> I wanted to ask if anybody else has problems receiving Apache mails. 
> They simply seem to stop without any particular reason - and the last 
> time after some weeks I got the mails again, also without any reason. 
> It's not a problem of subscribing, the mails simply don't 
> come through 
> from Apache to GMX. After the outage the last time I got big 
> mails from 
> Apache mailing software ezmlm that it could not deliver the 
> mails with 
> "host not found" or something similar. But I don't want to take my 
> Apache address (I have now resubscribed with it for receiving 
> the mails) 
> for writing mails as long as I can not use my Mozilla mail 
> for it. I'm 
> not that shortcut junkie, that likes to use pine ...
> 
> One of the last mails I got yesterday is 54342 at 
> users@cocoon.apache.org. I didn't receive my own reply on 
> this mail 54346. (Maybe this helps for finding out the reason.)
> 
> Joerg
>