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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> on 2013/09/27 12:33:45 UTC

New localizations (was: Reminder: Time to update your entry in the Directory of Volunteers)

Hi Jan,

On 27.09.2013 10:27, janI wrote:
> On 27 September 2013 08:32, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Николай Нинков wrote:
>>> Because the translation of Bulgarian is almost ready, please do for me a
>> dev
>>> snapshot with the Bulgarian translation to carry out the necessary tests.
>>> I do not want to promise but I will try to handle the tests so that you
>>   turn
>>> the Bulgarian translation in the new Release 4.0.1.
>>
>> I have to admit that I don't know how get a *sdf file out of pootle. But
>> if someone can provide me with the latest *sdf file for Bulgarian I'd
>> volunteer to do a snapshot build for it. I extend that offer also for
>> Danish as that just got ready.
>>
>
> I think only 2 people know that, which is why I wrote a docu about a year
> ago. juergen is the real guru.
>
> I nobody beats me to it, I will give it a shoot during the weekend (I have
> already done for it danish, but not committed it).

Wonderful, thanks for the offer!

> Can I commit it to trunk ?

Yes. please do.

Having it on trunk would have the additional benefit that we add them to 
the schedule of our regular buildbots. New localizations benefiting from 
a few rounds of polishing wouldn't be surprising. AFAIK trunk and the 
AOO401 branch are still 100% compatible from a localization perspective.

Herbert


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Re: New localizations (was: Reminder: Time to update your entry in the Directory of Volunteers)

Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 27 September 2013 12:33, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Jan,
>
> On 27.09.2013 10:27, janI wrote:
>
>> On 27 September 2013 08:32, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>  Николай Нинков wrote:
>>>
>>>> Because the translation of Bulgarian is almost ready, please do for me a
>>>>
>>> dev
>>>
>>>> snapshot with the Bulgarian translation to carry out the necessary
>>>> tests.
>>>> I do not want to promise but I will try to handle the tests so that you
>>>>
>>>   turn
>>>
>>>> the Bulgarian translation in the new Release 4.0.1.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have to admit that I don't know how get a *sdf file out of pootle. But
>>> if someone can provide me with the latest *sdf file for Bulgarian I'd
>>> volunteer to do a snapshot build for it. I extend that offer also for
>>> Danish as that just got ready.
>>>
>>>
>> I think only 2 people know that, which is why I wrote a docu about a year
>> ago. juergen is the real guru.
>>
>> I nobody beats me to it, I will give it a shoot during the weekend (I have
>> already done for it danish, but not committed it).
>>
>
> Wonderful, thanks for the offer!
>

 Done, but no guarantees, I got a number of warnings the the .po files for
help contained entries of more than 2 lines, I have no idea what juergen
normally does with that.

When I tested danish, I did not bother making sdf files :-)


>  Can I commit it to trunk ?
>>
>
> Yes. please do.
>
> R1526888, I have problaly overwritten what you have just committed, sorry.

I only updated "da" and "bg", even though I can see multiple changes in
other languages.

have a nice weekend.

rgds
jan I.



> Having it on trunk would have the additional benefit that we add them to
> the schedule of our regular buildbots. New localizations benefiting from a
> few rounds of polishing wouldn't be surprising. AFAIK trunk and the AOO401
> branch are still 100% compatible from a localization perspective.
>
> Herbert
>
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Re: New localizations for testing (Danish and Bulgarian)

Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 30 September 2013 21:56, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 30/09/2013 Herbert Duerr wrote:
>
>> The first test builds are available now for Bulgarian [1] and Danish
>> [2].
>>
>
> Thank you! It would still be helpful for translators to have the keyid
> ("kid") builds available too. I can't find valid reasons not to build them:
> the "kid" SDF file on trunk is up-to-date, the one for 4.0.1 is at
> http://people.apache.org/~**pescetti/tmp/2013-09-keyid/<http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/2013-09-keyid/>since 4.0.1 was open for blockers only.
>

just a hint, dont build kid speciel, build e.g. --with-lang="kid da"

that allows fast and easy switching (at least in my branch).

I build at the moment --with-lang="keyid da es en-US" (keyid is the new
name for kid in l10n40).

rgds
jan I.


>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: New localizations for testing (Danish and Bulgarian)

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 10/1/13 12:00 PM, Herbert Duerr wrote:
> On 30.09.2013 21:56, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> On 30/09/2013 Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>> The first test builds are available now for Bulgarian [1] and Danish
>>> [2].
> 
> Now all the Bulgarian [1] and Danish [2] packages for Mac, Linux i686
> and Linux amd64 as RPM and DEB are created and uploaded. Their Windows
> counterparts will hopefully make it tomorrow.
> 
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/developer-snapshots/snapshot/extra/bg/
> [2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/developer-snapshots/snapshot/extra/da/
> 
>> Thank you! It would still be helpful for translators to have the keyid
>> ("kid") builds available too. I can't find valid reasons not to build
>> them: the "kid" SDF file on trunk is up-to-date, the one for 4.0.1 is at
>> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/2013-09-keyid/ since 4.0.1 was
>> open for blockers only.
> 
> A good idea. I created language packs for the keyid pseudo-localization
> for Mac, Linux i686 and Linux amd64 as RPM and and DEB packages and put
> them next to the new languages [3]. Their Windows counterparts will
> hopefully make it tomorrow.
> 
> [3] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/developer-snapshots/snapshot/extra/kid
> 
> Seeing all the manual effort that is needed to build these localizations
> I respectfully request that translators interested in having their
> language supported do it before the localization deadline.

to make it more clear the integration of languages after the
localization deadline was good will to recognize the hard work of the
volunteers. But this should not be the normal procedure in the future
and the new process Jan is working on will help to improve the overall
situation. But we will have translation deadlines in the future as well
and it is of course important that this work is somewhat aligned with
our release plans.

Juergen

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Re: New localizations for testing (Danish and Bulgarian)

Posted by Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>.
On 30.09.2013 21:56, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 30/09/2013 Herbert Duerr wrote:
>> The first test builds are available now for Bulgarian [1] and Danish
>> [2].

Now all the Bulgarian [1] and Danish [2] packages for Mac, Linux i686 
and Linux amd64 as RPM and DEB are created and uploaded. Their Windows 
counterparts will hopefully make it tomorrow.

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/developer-snapshots/snapshot/extra/bg/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/developer-snapshots/snapshot/extra/da/

> Thank you! It would still be helpful for translators to have the keyid
> ("kid") builds available too. I can't find valid reasons not to build
> them: the "kid" SDF file on trunk is up-to-date, the one for 4.0.1 is at
> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/2013-09-keyid/ since 4.0.1 was
> open for blockers only.

A good idea. I created language packs for the keyid pseudo-localization 
for Mac, Linux i686 and Linux amd64 as RPM and and DEB packages and put 
them next to the new languages [3]. Their Windows counterparts will 
hopefully make it tomorrow.

[3] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/developer-snapshots/snapshot/extra/kid

Seeing all the manual effort that is needed to build these localizations 
I respectfully request that translators interested in having their 
language supported do it before the localization deadline.

Herbert


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Re: New localizations for testing (Danish and Bulgarian)

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 30/09/2013 Herbert Duerr wrote:
> The first test builds are available now for Bulgarian [1] and Danish
> [2].

Thank you! It would still be helpful for translators to have the keyid 
("kid") builds available too. I can't find valid reasons not to build 
them: the "kid" SDF file on trunk is up-to-date, the one for 4.0.1 is at 
http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/2013-09-keyid/ since 4.0.1 was 
open for blockers only.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: New localizations for testing (Danish and Bulgarian)

Posted by Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>.
Many thanks to Jan for providing the *sdf files and for completing the 
danish translation. I fixed the remaining tag imbalances in the 
Bulgarian translation in both Pootle and SVN.

The first test builds are available now for Bulgarian [1] and Danish 
[2]. For now only the Mac builds, Linux 64bit is uploading, Linux 32bit 
and Windows will probably become available tomorrow.

[1] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/developer-snapshots/snapshot/extra/bg/
[2] http://people.apache.org/~hdu/developer-snapshots/snapshot/extra/da/

Herbert

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