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Posted to photark-dev@incubator.apache.org by Luis Fernando Carmo <lu...@gmail.com> on 2010/06/13 00:48:43 UTC
Album subscriptions and Search
My initial thoughts were to retrieve subscribed albums when they were
requested, and not really store anything locally. But I was wondering
if there are any special requirements by the "search functionality"
being developed. Do we need to have any information stored locally for
these subscriptions ? If so, what are the requirements on "resyncing"
these subscription information to retrieve new images and remove the
ones deleted from the remote album?
- Luis
Re: Album subscriptions and Search
Posted by Phillipe Ramalho <ph...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I think storing remote images in the local repository is a not a very good
idea.Instead we can store some meta data like title,description , image url
etc.Users can "resync" contents automatically (Periodically) and
manually(from admin ui).Only indexes and meta data should be updated during
the "resyncs" but there would still chances that the contents are not in
sync for a while.But thats fine because quering very frequently would kill
the performance.
No, the image itself will not be store, it doesn't even make sense to store
the same image in two different places. When I said image, I should have
said the Image object, where the search component can get all metadata from
and index it for later search.
For the search component, what does the sync actually doesn't matter, it
only needs to be notified whenever it changes, then the search index can be
updated.
"resyncs" but there would still chances that the contents are not in
sync for a while.But thats fine because quering very frequently would kill
the performance.
I think that's fine too, the user needs to decide whenever he wants to sync
the contents, and live with the limits of not syncing it if he chooses not
to.
Regards,
Phillipe Ramalho
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Avdhesh Yadav <av...@avdheshyadav.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think storing remote images in the local repository is a not a very
> good
> > idea.Instead we can store some meta data like title,description , image
> url
> > etc.Users can "resync" contents automatically (Periodically) and
> > manually(from admin ui).Only indexes and meta data should be updated
> during
> > the "resyncs" but there would still chances that the contents are not in
> > sync for a while.But thats fine because quering very frequently would
> kill
> > the performance.
> >
> >
>
> +1
>
> > On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Phillipe Ramalho <
> >> > The search component needs to be notified when a picture is added or
> >> > removed, then the search index can be updated, otherwise the search
> >> results
> >> > could retrieve pictures that no longer exist. Take a look into my
> latest
> >> > patch at [1] and see how jcralbum notifies the gallery, about
> >> added/removed
> >> > pictures. The search component will be listening to changes notified
> to
> >> the
> >> > gallery.
> >> >
>
> Based on Avdhesh comments above, the notification of a "picture added"
> or "picture removed" is something conceptual and does not require the
> actual picture to be stored locally, so, if a new image is added in
> the remote subscription, when then sync occurs, adding the "image
> metadata" should trigger the search indexer event.
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende <http://people.apache.org/%7Elresende>
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
--
Phillipe Ramalho
Re: Album subscriptions and Search
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Avdhesh Yadav <av...@avdheshyadav.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think storing remote images in the local repository is a not a very good
> idea.Instead we can store some meta data like title,description , image url
> etc.Users can "resync" contents automatically (Periodically) and
> manually(from admin ui).Only indexes and meta data should be updated during
> the "resyncs" but there would still chances that the contents are not in
> sync for a while.But thats fine because quering very frequently would kill
> the performance.
>
>
+1
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Phillipe Ramalho <
>> > The search component needs to be notified when a picture is added or
>> > removed, then the search index can be updated, otherwise the search
>> results
>> > could retrieve pictures that no longer exist. Take a look into my latest
>> > patch at [1] and see how jcralbum notifies the gallery, about
>> added/removed
>> > pictures. The search component will be listening to changes notified to
>> the
>> > gallery.
>> >
Based on Avdhesh comments above, the notification of a "picture added"
or "picture removed" is something conceptual and does not require the
actual picture to be stored locally, so, if a new image is added in
the remote subscription, when then sync occurs, adding the "image
metadata" should trigger the search indexer event.
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Album subscriptions and Search
Posted by Avdhesh Yadav <av...@avdheshyadav.com>.
Hi,
I think storing remote images in the local repository is a not a very good
idea.Instead we can store some meta data like title,description , image url
etc.Users can "resync" contents automatically (Periodically) and
manually(from admin ui).Only indexes and meta data should be updated during
the "resyncs" but there would still chances that the contents are not in
sync for a while.But thats fine because quering very frequently would kill
the performance.
--
Avdhesh Yadav
http://www.avdheshyadav.com
http://twitter.com/yadavavdhesh
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Phillipe Ramalho <
phillipe.ramalho@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah, I forgot about the link:
>
> [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOTARK-28
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Phillipe Ramalho <
> phillipe.ramalho@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Luis,
> >
> > The search component needs to be notified when a picture is added or
> > removed, then the search index can be updated, otherwise the search
> results
> > could retrieve pictures that no longer exist. Take a look into my latest
> > patch at [1] and see how jcralbum notifies the gallery, about
> added/removed
> > pictures. The search component will be listening to changes notified to
> the
> > gallery.
> >
> > I hope that answers your question ;)
> >
> > Phillipe Ramalho
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Luis Fernando Carmo <
> luis.gsoc@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> My initial thoughts were to retrieve subscribed albums when they were
> >> requested, and not really store anything locally. But I was wondering
> >> if there are any special requirements by the "search functionality"
> >> being developed. Do we need to have any information stored locally for
> >> these subscriptions ? If so, what are the requirements on "resyncing"
> >> these subscription information to retrieve new images and remove the
> >> ones deleted from the remote album?
> >>
> >> - Luis
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Phillipe Ramalho
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Phillipe Ramalho
>
Re: Album subscriptions and Search
Posted by Phillipe Ramalho <ph...@gmail.com>.
Ah, I forgot about the link:
[1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOTARK-28
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Phillipe Ramalho <
phillipe.ramalho@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Luis,
>
> The search component needs to be notified when a picture is added or
> removed, then the search index can be updated, otherwise the search results
> could retrieve pictures that no longer exist. Take a look into my latest
> patch at [1] and see how jcralbum notifies the gallery, about added/removed
> pictures. The search component will be listening to changes notified to the
> gallery.
>
> I hope that answers your question ;)
>
> Phillipe Ramalho
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Luis Fernando Carmo <lu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> My initial thoughts were to retrieve subscribed albums when they were
>> requested, and not really store anything locally. But I was wondering
>> if there are any special requirements by the "search functionality"
>> being developed. Do we need to have any information stored locally for
>> these subscriptions ? If so, what are the requirements on "resyncing"
>> these subscription information to retrieve new images and remove the
>> ones deleted from the remote album?
>>
>> - Luis
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Phillipe Ramalho
>
--
Phillipe Ramalho
Re: Album subscriptions and Search
Posted by Phillipe Ramalho <ph...@gmail.com>.
Hi Luis,
The search component needs to be notified when a picture is added or
removed, then the search index can be updated, otherwise the search results
could retrieve pictures that no longer exist. Take a look into my latest
patch at [1] and see how jcralbum notifies the gallery, about added/removed
pictures. The search component will be listening to changes notified to the
gallery.
I hope that answers your question ;)
Phillipe Ramalho
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Luis Fernando Carmo <lu...@gmail.com>wrote:
> My initial thoughts were to retrieve subscribed albums when they were
> requested, and not really store anything locally. But I was wondering
> if there are any special requirements by the "search functionality"
> being developed. Do we need to have any information stored locally for
> these subscriptions ? If so, what are the requirements on "resyncing"
> these subscription information to retrieve new images and remove the
> ones deleted from the remote album?
>
> - Luis
>
--
Phillipe Ramalho