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Hyphenation
FYI
Reworked hyphenation has been committed to Folio. It implements TeX's
discretionary hyphen in the patterns and exceptions. Takes more space
and runs more slowly. For the discretionary hyphens to work, the
hyphenation pattern files will have to be changed to reflect this, which
could be very useful for old German orthography, at least.
HyphenationTree.hyphenate returns a WordHyphenator which includes the
discretionary patterns. In fact, all inter-letter positions are marked
by discretionary patterns, mostly degenerate.
Oh, and it requires javax.xml.stream to build; i.e. Mustang.
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Folio <http://defoe.sourceforge.net/folio/>
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Re: Hyphenation
Posted by Clay Leeds <we...@mac.com>.
On Mar 24, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Peter B. West wrote:
> Clay,
>
> I wasn't expecting that the HyphenationTree would find its way into
> FOP, not least because of the stream parsing requirement. It was
> strictly an FYI post for anyone who is interested in hyphenation
> issues.
>
> Peter
Thanks for the clarification! Sorry for the confusion.
Clay Leeds
webmaestro@mac.com
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-- HH Dalai Lama of Tibet
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Re: Hyphenation
Posted by "Peter B. West" <li...@pbw.id.au>.
Clay Leeds wrote:
> On Mar 24, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Peter B. West wrote:
>
>> Web Maestro Clay wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for letting us know. What are the implications for folks
>>> running Java 1.3.x, 1.4.x or even 1.5 who can't upgrade to Mustang
>>> (Java 1.6)?
>>
>>
>> They'll catch up. And until then, there are a number of
>> implementations of stream parsing, including the reference
>> implementation (RI) which started life with BEA, Woodstox, as well as
>> the Sun implementation. Drop one of the other jars in, change the
>> package name, and you should be in business.
>>
>> Peter
>
>
> I understand folks will catch up. But if the rest of FOP runs on 1.3.x
> or better (and this is one portion of FOP requires 1.6, then FOP
> 1.0--when it's released--would require JRE 1.6. I don't think this is
> an acceptable solution--not when FOP has what I believe to be an
> adequate hyphenation implementation which does not require Java 1.6.
>
> Does your HyphenationTree system have hooks, thereby making it merely
> an option for those who run on Java 1.6, as opposed to requiring FOP
> itself change its system requirements to JRE 1.6?
>
Clay,
I wasn't expecting that the HyphenationTree would find its way into FOP,
not least because of the stream parsing requirement. It was strictly an
FYI post for anyone who is interested in hyphenation issues.
Peter
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Folio <http://defoe.sourceforge.net/folio/>
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Re: Hyphenation
Posted by Clay Leeds <we...@mac.com>.
On Mar 24, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Peter B. West wrote:
> Web Maestro Clay wrote:
>> Thank you for letting us know. What are the implications for
>> folks running Java 1.3.x, 1.4.x or even 1.5 who can't upgrade to
>> Mustang (Java 1.6)?
>
> They'll catch up. And until then, there are a number of
> implementations of stream parsing, including the reference
> implementation (RI) which started life with BEA, Woodstox, as well
> as the Sun implementation. Drop one of the other jars in, change
> the package name, and you should be in business.
>
> Peter
I understand folks will catch up. But if the rest of FOP runs on
1.3.x or better (and this is one portion of FOP requires 1.6, then
FOP 1.0--when it's released--would require JRE 1.6. I don't think
this is an acceptable solution--not when FOP has what I believe to be
an adequate hyphenation implementation which does not require Java 1.6.
Does your HyphenationTree system have hooks, thereby making it merely
an option for those who run on Java 1.6, as opposed to requiring FOP
itself change its system requirements to JRE 1.6?
Clay Leeds
webmaestro@mac.com
My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
-- HH Dalai Lama of Tibet
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Re: Hyphenation
Posted by "Peter B. West" <li...@pbw.id.au>.
Web Maestro Clay wrote:
> On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:13 PM, Peter B. West wrote:
>
>> FYI
>>
>> Reworked hyphenation has been committed to Folio. It implements TeX's
>> discretionary hyphen in the patterns and exceptions. Takes more space
>> and runs more slowly. For the discretionary hyphens to work, the
>> hyphenation pattern files will have to be changed to reflect this,
>> which could be very useful for old German orthography, at least.
>>
>> HyphenationTree.hyphenate returns a WordHyphenator which includes the
>> discretionary patterns. In fact, all inter-letter positions are
>> marked by discretionary patterns, mostly degenerate.
>>
>> Oh, and it requires javax.xml.stream to build; i.e. Mustang.
>> --
>> Peter B. West <http://cv.pbw.id.au/>
>> Folio <http://defoe.sourceforge.net/folio/>
>
>
> Thank you for letting us know. What are the implications for folks
> running Java 1.3.x, 1.4.x or even 1.5 who can't upgrade to Mustang
> (Java 1.6)?
They'll catch up. And until then, there are a number of implementations
of stream parsing, including the reference implementation (RI) which
started life with BEA, Woodstox, as well as the Sun implementation.
Drop one of the other jars in, change the package name, and you should
be in business.
Peter
--
Peter B. West <http://cv.pbw.id.au/>
Folio <http://defoe.sourceforge.net/folio/>
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Re: Hyphenation
Posted by Web Maestro Clay <th...@gmail.com>.
On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:13 PM, Peter B. West wrote:
> FYI
>
> Reworked hyphenation has been committed to Folio. It implements
> TeX's discretionary hyphen in the patterns and exceptions. Takes
> more space and runs more slowly. For the discretionary hyphens to
> work, the hyphenation pattern files will have to be changed to
> reflect this, which could be very useful for old German
> orthography, at least.
>
> HyphenationTree.hyphenate returns a WordHyphenator which includes
> the discretionary patterns. In fact, all inter-letter positions are
> marked by discretionary patterns, mostly degenerate.
>
> Oh, and it requires javax.xml.stream to build; i.e. Mustang.
> --
> Peter B. West <http://cv.pbw.id.au/>
> Folio <http://defoe.sourceforge.net/folio/>
Thank you for letting us know. What are the implications for folks
running Java 1.3.x, 1.4.x or even 1.5 who can't upgrade to Mustang
(Java 1.6)?
Clay Leeds
the.webmaestro@gmail.com
My religion is simple. My religion is kindness.
-- HH Dalai Lama of Tibet
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