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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccess fine
Did you ever investigate the response headers or lookup basic auth in squid?
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
-----Original Message-----
From: Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:02:52
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranet
access fine
Hi guys,
sorry don't mean to be pushy or hasty but has anyone any idea of why my
security within .htaccess isn't working through the internet???
I kinda got some responses which at least I think helped identify the
problem more specifically but nothing to solve my issues... :-(
Thanks again, I do respect the fact that everyone has jobs and lives
which is why I waited till now as I assume the thread has got stale??
Many thanks for any solutions or probably ones ;-)
regards,
Kaya
Kaya Saman wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you remove the http password parts from your config, do things
>>> start to work for you?
>>
>> Yes then it works no probs :-)
>
> Sorry if was unclear on this....
>
> I can access the pages but then I have no security as .htaccess
> becomes disabled!
>
> Any thing else which can help me??
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet?
intranetaccessfine
Posted by Dick Davies <ra...@hellooperator.net>.
Do yourself a big favour and use something like curl.
Telnet is a crappy way to test http.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net> wrote:
> Using host: hostname from telnet I get this:
>
> [code]
> HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
> Server: squid/2.6.STABLE15
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:17:34 GMT
> Content-Type: text/html
> Content-Length: 1186
> Expires: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:17:34 GMT
> X-Squid-Error: ERR_INVALID_REQ 0
> X-Cache: MISS from NetraT1-Proxy
> Via: 1.0 NetraT1-Proxy:80 (squid/2.6.STABLE15)
> Proxy-Connection: close
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
> <HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html;
> charset=iso-8859-1">
> <TITLE>ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved</TITLE>
> <STYLE
> type="text/css"><!--BODY{background-color:#ffffff;font-family:verdana,sans-serif}PRE{font-family:sans-serif}--></STYLE>
> </HEAD><BODY>
> <H1>ERROR</H1>
> <H2>The requested URL could not be retrieved</H2>
> <HR noshade size="1px">
> <P>
> While trying to process the request:
> <PRE>
> host zeta-ray
>
> </PRE>
> <P>
> The following error was encountered:
> <UL>
> <LI>
> <STRONG>
> Invalid Request
> </STRONG>
> </UL>
>
> <P>
> Some aspect of the HTTP Request is invalid. Possible problems:
> <UL>
> <LI>Missing or unknown request method
> <LI>Missing URL
> <LI>Missing HTTP Identifier (HTTP/1.0)
> <LI>Request is too large
> <LI>Content-Length missing for POST or PUT requests
> <LI>Illegal character in hostname; underscores are not allowed
> </UL>
> <P>Your cache administrator is <A HREF="mailto:webmaster">webmaster</A>.
>
> <BR clear="all">
> <HR noshade size="1px">
> <ADDRESS>
> Generated Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:17:34 GMT by NetraT1-Proxy
> (squid/2.6.STABLE15)
> </ADDRESS>
> </BODY></HTML>
> [/code]
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet?
intranetaccess fine
Posted by Dick Davies <ra...@hellooperator.net>.
What's in the error/access logs on apache, Kaya?
That should tell you whether it's apache blocking the request, or Squid.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net> wrote:
> matt farey wrote:
>>
>> Did you ever investigate the response headers or lookup basic auth in
>> squid?
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>>
>
> Thanks for the response Matt!!
>
> I haven't checked the headers so will need to run Wireshark on it.
>
> Checked out basic auth in Squid and posted a line of conf which I thought
> was viable:
>
> #auth_param basic realm Squid proxy-caching web server
>
> after restarting however I got the same issue.
>
> When I get back later I'll do more Google'ing on it as I have to run out now
> as meeting for a job interview (currently transitioning between ex-student
> and IT/networking proffessional (make that junior))!!
>
> I think output from Wireshark will help you guys help me out more provided I
> don't get the issue fixed before hand :-)
>
> Thanks again for the response!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Kaya
>
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>.
matt farey wrote:
> Sorry this blasted blackberry misses letters! (And top posts!)
>
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>
>
That's cool :-) my next step is to learn how to synch Blackberry's with
colab systems such as Zimbra and Scalix..... it's nice being an
enthusiastic student! - although once I get that first job which is so
near now I doubt it'll last but then again I love what I do so... there
may be some chance to love my job after all;
That aside exact output I'm getting is this:
[code]
----------------------------------------------------------
http://zeta-ray.optiplex-networks.com/munin/
GET /munin/ HTTP/1.1
Host: zeta-ray.optiplex-networks.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.14)
Gecko/2009090217 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.14
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Authorization: Basic YWRtaW46U2NscjExWFA5OQ==
HTTP/1.x 401 Unauthorized
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:57:23 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat)
WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="Restricted Files"
Content-Length: 497
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
X-Cache: MISS from NetraT1-Proxy
Via: 1.0 NetraT1-Proxy:80 (squid/2.6.STABLE15)
Connection: close
----------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by matt farey <ma...@gmail.com>.
Sorry this blasted blackberry misses letters! (And top posts!)
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
-----Original Message-----
From: Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:10:11
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Firefox plugin is giving me quite an interesting readout and I think
I've located the issue which is what Matt Farey has been saying all
along about the Squid forwarding of HTTP Auth Basic Headers:
I get WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="Restricted Files" message which I'm
pretty sure is this part of Squid:
#auth_param basic realm
of which after I get an X-cache: MISS message.
Time to go to Squid mailing list I think, would you guys agree???
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by matt farey <ma...@gmail.com>.
What should happen, is that
Firefox requests URL
Goes via squid,
Squid sends on firefoxes request headers
Apache backend sends "must authenticate" headers
These must be picked u by squid and reversed out to firefox, if this is happening, you will see the firefox basic authentication pop-up.
Once firefox sees those authentication headers and you fill in the boxes it will send the a header with a payload of base64 encoded username:password
This must be proxied by squid to apache for the resource to be allowed back.
Firefox should now cache these credentials and resend them every single request, and so on
Where does this fail, are you getting the firefox pop up?
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
-----Original Message-----
From: Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:10:11
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Firefox plugin is giving me quite an interesting readout and I think
I've located the issue which is what Matt Farey has been saying all
along about the Squid forwarding of HTTP Auth Basic Headers:
I get WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="Restricted Files" message which I'm
pretty sure is this part of Squid:
#auth_param basic realm
of which after I get an X-cache: MISS message.
Time to go to Squid mailing list I think, would you guys agree???
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>.
Firefox plugin is giving me quite an interesting readout and I think
I've located the issue which is what Matt Farey has been saying all
along about the Squid forwarding of HTTP Auth Basic Headers:
I get WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="Restricted Files" message which I'm
pretty sure is this part of Squid:
#auth_param basic realm
of which after I get an X-cache: MISS message.
Time to go to Squid mailing list I think, would you guys agree???
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by matt farey <ma...@gmail.com>.
Curl is not showing the response headers, Is it -X or -H (or neither - I forget!)
If you have access to windows, you can use fiddlertool proxy, damn hot debugging proxy.
But at least you can see that squid does not understand how to supply the credentials from the html!
Matt
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:48:03
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Hi guys,
this is output from curl:
[code]
root@Hp-Compaq-2230s:~# curl http://zeta-ray.optiplex-networks.com/munin/
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
<html><head>
<title>401 Authorization Required</title>
</head><body>
<h1>Authorization Required</h1>
<p>This server could not verify that you
are authorized to access the document
requested. Either you supplied the wrong
credentials (e.g., bad password), or your
browser doesn't understand how to supply
the credentials required.</p>
<hr>
<address>Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat) Server at zeta-ray.optiplex-networks.com
Port 80</address>
</body></html>
[/code]
Am gona try the firefox addons now!!
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>.
Hi guys,
this is output from curl:
[code]
root@Hp-Compaq-2230s:~# curl http://zeta-ray.optiplex-networks.com/munin/
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
<html><head>
<title>401 Authorization Required</title>
</head><body>
<h1>Authorization Required</h1>
<p>This server could not verify that you
are authorized to access the document
requested. Either you supplied the wrong
credentials (e.g., bad password), or your
browser doesn't understand how to supply
the credentials required.</p>
<hr>
<address>Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat) Server at zeta-ray.optiplex-networks.com
Port 80</address>
</body></html>
[/code]
Am gona try the firefox addons now!!
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>.
> You have to simulate what the browser would do.
> So "URL" or "hostname" must be http://the.url.you.never/told/us.here,
> OK? :)
Whoops, sorry got so caught up in my own stuff major apologies!!
URL is http://zeta-ray.optiplex-networks.com/munin/
This is one of the systems I have .htaccess passwd files on.....
>
> You could try Firefox and LiveHTTPHeaders add-on.
> http://www.mozilla-europe.org/de/firefox/
> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/3829
Thank you I will try these and curl as well, as suggested previously :-)
>
> Then you may see, what's going on.
>
>
> Marc
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by Marc Patermann <ha...@ofd-sth.niedersachsen.de>.
Kaya Saman schrieb:
> Using host: hostname from telnet I get this:
You have to simulate what the browser would do.
So "URL" or "hostname" must be http://the.url.you.never/told/us.here, OK? :)
You could try Firefox and LiveHTTPHeaders add-on.
http://www.mozilla-europe.org/de/firefox/
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/3829
Then you may see, what's going on.
Marc
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>.
Using host: hostname from telnet I get this:
[code]
HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
Server: squid/2.6.STABLE15
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:17:34 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 1186
Expires: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:17:34 GMT
X-Squid-Error: ERR_INVALID_REQ 0
X-Cache: MISS from NetraT1-Proxy
Via: 1.0 NetraT1-Proxy:80 (squid/2.6.STABLE15)
Proxy-Connection: close
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">
<TITLE>ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved</TITLE>
<STYLE
type="text/css"><!--BODY{background-color:#ffffff;font-family:verdana,sans-serif}PRE{font-family:sans-serif}--></STYLE>
</HEAD><BODY>
<H1>ERROR</H1>
<H2>The requested URL could not be retrieved</H2>
<HR noshade size="1px">
<P>
While trying to process the request:
<PRE>
host zeta-ray
</PRE>
<P>
The following error was encountered:
<UL>
<LI>
<STRONG>
Invalid Request
</STRONG>
</UL>
<P>
Some aspect of the HTTP Request is invalid. Possible problems:
<UL>
<LI>Missing or unknown request method
<LI>Missing URL
<LI>Missing HTTP Identifier (HTTP/1.0)
<LI>Request is too large
<LI>Content-Length missing for POST or PUT requests
<LI>Illegal character in hostname; underscores are not allowed
</UL>
<P>Your cache administrator is <A HREF="mailto:webmaster">webmaster</A>.
<BR clear="all">
<HR noshade size="1px">
<ADDRESS>
Generated Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:17:34 GMT by NetraT1-Proxy
(squid/2.6.STABLE15)
</ADDRESS>
</BODY></HTML>
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>.
Dick Davies wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> You have to type the GET bit yourself :)
>
Oops... newbie mistake haha :-)
Output:
[code]
GET url HTTP/1.1
HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
Server: squid/2.6.STABLE15
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:14:05 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 1143
Expires: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:14:05 GMT
X-Squid-Error: ERR_INVALID_URL 0
X-Cache: MISS from NetraT1-Proxy
Via: 1.0 NetraT1-Proxy:80 (squid/2.6.STABLE15)
Connection: close
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">
<TITLE>ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved</TITLE>
<STYLE
type="text/css"><!--BODY{background-color:#ffffff;font-family:verdana,sans-serif}PRE{font-family:sans-serif}--></STYLE>
</HEAD><BODY>
<H1>ERROR</H1>
<H2>The requested URL could not be retrieved</H2>
<HR noshade size="1px">
<P>
While trying to retrieve the URL:
<A HREF="url">url</A>
<P>
The following error was encountered:
<UL>
<LI>
<STRONG>
Invalid URL
</STRONG>
</UL>
<P>
Some aspect of the requested URL is incorrect. Possible problems:
<UL>
<LI>Missing or incorrect access protocol (should be `http://'' or similar)
<LI>Missing hostname
<LI>Illegal double-escape in the URL-Path
<LI>Illegal character in hostname; underscores are not allowed
</UL>
<P>Your cache administrator is <A HREF="mailto:webmaster">webmaster</A>.
<BR clear="all">
<HR noshade size="1px">
<ADDRESS>
Generated Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:14:05 GMT by NetraT1-Proxy
(squid/2.6.STABLE15)
</ADDRESS>
</BODY></HTML>
[/code]
>
>
> If squid is running on the same box, you'd see an error like that if
> squid was letting you
> in and you requested /announce .
>
Separate box!! Is a standalone proxy...
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet?
intranetaccessfine
Posted by Dick Davies <ra...@hellooperator.net>.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net> wrote:
> I used: telnet {mydomain.com} 80 and it just gives me connected??? No 'get
> url' etc... - am on Ubuntu 9.04 currently but even within the Solaris and
> Cent OS servers I don't get that kind of response.
You have to type the GET bit yourself :)
> Dick, I have nothing in access log apart from BitTorrent stuff, but in
> error_log I get this:
>
> [Tue Oct 13 14:30:16 2009] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist:
> /var/www/html/announce
If squid is running on the same box, you'd see an error like that if
squid was letting you
in and you requested /announce .
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>.
Got a wireshark output on this and get:
X-cache=MISS
but nothing really distinguishable within the http headers..... :-(
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>.
Many thanks for the responses :-)
I am back now with possible job placements which is a good sign!
Matt, I tried telnet but my telnet version doesn't give me as specific
detailed output as that....
I used: telnet {mydomain.com} 80 and it just gives me connected??? No
'get url' etc... - am on Ubuntu 9.04 currently but even within the
Solaris and Cent OS servers I don't get that kind of response.
Dick, I have nothing in access log apart from BitTorrent stuff, but in
error_log I get this:
[Tue Oct 13 14:30:16 2009] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not
exist: /var/www/html/announce
I don't think it is relevant but however the issue looks to be squid by
my inexperienced knowledge...?? :-)
Time to fire up wireshark or tshark on this one I think....
Regards,
Kaya
matt farey wrote:
> You can use a telnet
>
>
> Telnet hostname 80
>
>
> GET url HTTP/1.1
> Host: hostname
> Enter enter
>
>
> And see what comes back
>
>
> It strike me squid is not passing back the headers or you would see the browser pop up, but squid *is* seeing the challenge since it fails with 403.
>
> Now do same telnet direct to page and see the difference
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:45:01
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccess
> fine
> matt farey wrote:
>
>> Did you ever investigate the response headers or lookup basic auth in squid?
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>>
>>
>>
> Thanks for the response Matt!!
>
> I haven't checked the headers so will need to run Wireshark on it.
>
> Checked out basic auth in Squid and posted a line of conf which I
> thought was viable:
>
> #auth_param basic realm Squid proxy-caching web server
>
> after restarting however I got the same issue.
>
> When I get back later I'll do more Google'ing on it as I have to run out
> now as meeting for a job interview (currently transitioning between
> ex-student and IT/networking proffessional (make that junior))!!
>
> I think output from Wireshark will help you guys help me out more
> provided I don't get the issue fixed before hand :-)
>
> Thanks again for the response!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Kaya
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccessfine
Posted by matt farey <ma...@gmail.com>.
You can use a telnet
Telnet hostname 80
GET url HTTP/1.1
Host: hostname
Enter enter
And see what comes back
It strike me squid is not passing back the headers or you would see the browser pop up, but squid *is* seeing the challenge since it fails with 403.
Now do same telnet direct to page and see the difference
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
-----Original Message-----
From: Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:45:01
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccess
fine
matt farey wrote:
> Did you ever investigate the response headers or lookup basic auth in squid?
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>
>
Thanks for the response Matt!!
I haven't checked the headers so will need to run Wireshark on it.
Checked out basic auth in Squid and posted a line of conf which I
thought was viable:
#auth_param basic realm Squid proxy-caching web server
after restarting however I got the same issue.
When I get back later I'll do more Google'ing on it as I have to run out
now as meeting for a job interview (currently transitioning between
ex-student and IT/networking proffessional (make that junior))!!
I think output from Wireshark will help you guys help me out more
provided I don't get the issue fixed before hand :-)
Thanks again for the response!!
Regards,
Kaya
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Re: [users@httpd] .htaccess files not working from internet? intranetaccess
fine
Posted by Kaya Saman <Sa...@netscape.net>.
matt farey wrote:
> Did you ever investigate the response headers or lookup basic auth in squid?
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>
>
Thanks for the response Matt!!
I haven't checked the headers so will need to run Wireshark on it.
Checked out basic auth in Squid and posted a line of conf which I
thought was viable:
#auth_param basic realm Squid proxy-caching web server
after restarting however I got the same issue.
When I get back later I'll do more Google'ing on it as I have to run out
now as meeting for a job interview (currently transitioning between
ex-student and IT/networking proffessional (make that junior))!!
I think output from Wireshark will help you guys help me out more
provided I don't get the issue fixed before hand :-)
Thanks again for the response!!
Regards,
Kaya
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