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Posted to dev@hive.apache.org by Gang Tim Liu <ga...@fb.com> on 2012/07/25 09:31:40 UTC

Lisk Bucketing DDL Patch

Dear all hive developers,

Please review the documentation:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/ListBucketing

Since we are close to release the first patch DDL.

We will continue to update the wiki about new information and in the
meanwhile want to collect your feedback.

Thanks

Tim


Re: Lisk Bucketing DDL Patch

Posted by Gang Tim Liu <ga...@fb.com>.
Yes, Namit has a great summary. thanks

On 7/27/12 9:09 PM, "Namit Jain" <nj...@fb.com> wrote:

>Yes, that patch will become quiet big to be done a single shot.
>
>Moreover, the skew information can be used by a variety of use-cases.
>
>1. List Bucketing
>2. Skew Joins: https://cwiki.apache.org/Hive/skewed-join-optimization.html
>3. Another variant of skew joins:
>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-3286
>
>So, the skew may not be limited to be used for list bucketing only.
>
>So, it might be simpler to split into DDL and DML support.
>
>DDL will be common to all the use-cases who want to use/store skew
>information. 
>
>Each use-case can implement the DML/Query separately.
>
>
>Thanks,
>-namit
>
>
>On 7/28/12 7:07 AM, "Carl Steinbach" <ca...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
>>> Since we are close to release the first patch DDL.
>>
>>In a comment on the design doc you said that the first phase would
>>involve
>>implementing this feature for a single-column end-to-end (DML+DDL). Has
>>that plan changed?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Gang Tim Liu <ga...@fb.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all hive developers,
>>>
>>> Please review the documentation:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/ListBucketing
>>>
>>> Since we are close to release the first patch DDL.
>>>
>>> We will continue to update the wiki about new information and in the
>>> meanwhile want to collect your feedback.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>


Re: Lisk Bucketing DDL Patch

Posted by Namit Jain <nj...@fb.com>.
Yes, that patch will become quiet big to be done a single shot.

Moreover, the skew information can be used by a variety of use-cases.

1. List Bucketing
2. Skew Joins: https://cwiki.apache.org/Hive/skewed-join-optimization.html
3. Another variant of skew joins:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-3286

So, the skew may not be limited to be used for list bucketing only.

So, it might be simpler to split into DDL and DML support.

DDL will be common to all the use-cases who want to use/store skew
information. 

Each use-case can implement the DML/Query separately.


Thanks,
-namit


On 7/28/12 7:07 AM, "Carl Steinbach" <ca...@cloudera.com> wrote:

>> Since we are close to release the first patch DDL.
>
>In a comment on the design doc you said that the first phase would involve
>implementing this feature for a single-column end-to-end (DML+DDL). Has
>that plan changed?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Carl
>
>On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Gang Tim Liu <ga...@fb.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all hive developers,
>>
>> Please review the documentation:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/ListBucketing
>>
>> Since we are close to release the first patch DDL.
>>
>> We will continue to update the wiki about new information and in the
>> meanwhile want to collect your feedback.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>


Re: Lisk Bucketing DDL Patch

Posted by Carl Steinbach <ca...@cloudera.com>.
> Since we are close to release the first patch DDL.

In a comment on the design doc you said that the first phase would involve
implementing this feature for a single-column end-to-end (DML+DDL). Has
that plan changed?

Thanks.

Carl

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Gang Tim Liu <ga...@fb.com> wrote:

> Dear all hive developers,
>
> Please review the documentation:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/ListBucketing
>
> Since we are close to release the first patch DDL.
>
> We will continue to update the wiki about new information and in the
> meanwhile want to collect your feedback.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>
>

Re: Lisk Bucketing DDL Patch

Posted by Namit Jain <nj...@fb.com>.
Note that, we are also planning to use the same syntax for specifying the
syntax for skew for
optimizing joins.

https://cwiki.apache.org/Hive/skewed-join-optimization.html


Thanks,
-namit



On 7/25/12 1:01 PM, "Gang Tim Liu" <ga...@fb.com> wrote:

>Dear all hive developers,
>
>Please review the documentation:
>
>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/ListBucketing
>
>Since we are close to release the first patch DDL.
>
>We will continue to update the wiki about new information and in the
>meanwhile want to collect your feedback.
>
>Thanks
>
>Tim
>