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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Phil Steitz <ph...@steitz.com> on 2004/01/11 20:57:04 UTC

[math] SNAPSHOT dependencies

We currently depend on SNAPSHOTs for [discovery], [lang] and 
[collections].  I think these should be changed to depend on released 
versions.

Somehow, we need to get the released [discovery] 0.2 uploaded to ibiblio 
(only 0.1 and a way out of date snapshot -- which we depend on -- is there 
now).  If no one else does this in the next couple of days, I will figure 
out how to make the Jira request to get this done.  Once this is done, I 
would like to change to 0.2 release dependency, unless others have 
objections.

We should be depending on [lang] 2.0, which is available.  If there are no 
objections, I would like to make this change now.

Once [collections] 3 goes final, we should change to that.  I am OK 
staying with the SNAPSHOT for now (since it is pretty much up to date), 
and moving to 3 final when this goes up.

Phil


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Re: [math] SNAPSHOT dependencies

Posted by "Mark R. Diggory" <md...@latte.harvard.edu>.
Thanks, we will try to get some documentation and links going relating 
to this.

John Casey wrote:

> I believe you just have to go to http://jira.codehaus.org and add a new
> issue to the MAVENUPLOAD project. At least, that's what I see fly by at
> around 5 a day on the maven dev list...just FYI.
> 
> -john
> 
> On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 14:57, Phil Steitz wrote:
> 
>>We currently depend on SNAPSHOTs for [discovery], [lang] and 
>>[collections].  I think these should be changed to depend on released 
>>versions.
>>
>>Somehow, we need to get the released [discovery] 0.2 uploaded to ibiblio 
>>(only 0.1 and a way out of date snapshot -- which we depend on -- is there 
>>now).  If no one else does this in the next couple of days, I will figure 
>>out how to make the Jira request to get this done.  Once this is done, I 
>>would like to change to 0.2 release dependency, unless others have 
>>objections.
>>
>>We should be depending on [lang] 2.0, which is available.  If there are no 
>>objections, I would like to make this change now.
>>
>>Once [collections] 3 goes final, we should change to that.  I am OK 
>>staying with the SNAPSHOT for now (since it is pretty much up to date), 
>>and moving to 3 final when this goes up.
>>
>>Phil
>>
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Re: [all] Maven Distribution's

Posted by "Mark R. Diggory" <md...@latte.harvard.edu>.

Craig R. McClanahan wrote:

> Quoting "Mark R. Diggory" <md...@latte.harvard.edu>:
> 
> 
>>1.) Is there anyone in particular that is in charge or who has ssh 
>>access to deploy maven distributions of nightly builds to ibiblio from 
>>the jakarta commons area?
>>
> 
> 
> I create and upload the nightly builds that are at:
> 
>   http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/nightly/
> 
> but don't have a clue who manages updates of the ibiblio repository, since it's
> not an Apache thing.
> 

Yes, I was primarily seeking out Commons developers who may actually 
have accounts on ibiblio to upload thier distributions rather than going 
through the whole manual request process.

> 
>>2.) I'd like to start getting at least a weekly or monthly build 
>>(bin,src,jar) updated to ibiblio via whatever automated process is in 
>>place (if any yet).
> 
> 
> Note that there is a new project in the Apache Incubator focused on building a
> repository for all of Apache.
> 
>   http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ruper.html
> 
> I suggest that interested parties who want to see this happen sign up for the
> mailing list (depot-dev-subscribe@incubator.apache.org) and help make it so.
> 
 > Craig

Yes, I will be getting involved with this discussion list. In the 
meantime I was hoping for an interm solution.

thanks,
Mark

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Re: [all] Maven Distribution's

Posted by __matthewHawthorne <ma...@phreaker.net>.
I started a similar discussion a few weeks ago, which I tried to start 
again today.  The subject was:

[maven] developer repository

which I just sent to general@jakarta, due to Tim's suggestion.


Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
> Quoting "Mark R. Diggory" <md...@latte.harvard.edu>:
> 
> 
>>1.) Is there anyone in particular that is in charge or who has ssh 
>>access to deploy maven distributions of nightly builds to ibiblio from 
>>the jakarta commons area?
>>
> 
> 
> I create and upload the nightly builds that are at:
> 
>   http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/nightly/
> 
> but don't have a clue who manages updates of the ibiblio repository, since it's
> not an Apache thing.
> 
> 
>>2.) I'd like to start getting at least a weekly or monthly build 
>>(bin,src,jar) updated to ibiblio via whatever automated process is in 
>>place (if any yet).
> 
> 
> Note that there is a new project in the Apache Incubator focused on building a
> repository for all of Apache.
> 
>   http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ruper.html
> 
> I suggest that interested parties who want to see this happen sign up for the
> mailing list (depot-dev-subscribe@incubator.apache.org) and help make it so.
> 
> 
>>thanks,
>>-Mark
>>
> 
> 
> Craig


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Re: [all] Maven Distribution's

Posted by "Craig R. McClanahan" <cr...@apache.org>.
Quoting "Mark R. Diggory" <md...@latte.harvard.edu>:

> 1.) Is there anyone in particular that is in charge or who has ssh 
> access to deploy maven distributions of nightly builds to ibiblio from 
> the jakarta commons area?
> 

I create and upload the nightly builds that are at:

  http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/nightly/

but don't have a clue who manages updates of the ibiblio repository, since it's
not an Apache thing.

> 2.) I'd like to start getting at least a weekly or monthly build 
> (bin,src,jar) updated to ibiblio via whatever automated process is in 
> place (if any yet).

Note that there is a new project in the Apache Incubator focused on building a
repository for all of Apache.

  http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ruper.html

I suggest that interested parties who want to see this happen sign up for the
mailing list (depot-dev-subscribe@incubator.apache.org) and help make it so.

> 
> thanks,
> -Mark
> 

Craig


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[all] Maven Distribution's

Posted by "Mark R. Diggory" <md...@latte.harvard.edu>.
1.) Is there anyone in particular that is in charge or who has ssh 
access to deploy maven distributions of nightly builds to ibiblio from 
the jakarta commons area?

2.) I'd like to start getting at least a weekly or monthly build 
(bin,src,jar) updated to ibiblio via whatever automated process is in 
place (if any yet).

thanks,
-Mark

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Software Developer
Harvard MIT Data Center
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Re: [math] SNAPSHOT dependencies

Posted by "Mark R. Diggory" <md...@latte.harvard.edu>.
O.k. I'm trying to do a few things right now:

1.) Build release distributions (jar,src,zip,tar) for [math] to be 
published on Ibiblio with the dependencies resolved.

2.) make a jira request to have these published.

3.) Build a dated snapshot dist of discovery.

4.) make jira requests to have this discovery dist uploaded.

I propose the following,

a.) we try to formalize when we are going to release dated distributions 
of math. (once a month for instance).

b.) we try to formalize when updates need to happen to dependencies 
(when and if they fall behind, for instance discovery).

c.) Is there any formal way to automate the update process to ibiblio?

-Mark

Mark R. Diggory wrote:

> We do have the nightly builds directory producing nightly releases. My 
> question:
> Can we also push jars and src releases out into this directory using Maven?
> 
> -Mark
> 
> John Casey wrote:
> 
>> I believe you just have to go to http://jira.codehaus.org and add a new
>> issue to the MAVENUPLOAD project. At least, that's what I see fly by at
>> around 5 a day on the maven dev list...just FYI.
>>
>> -john
>>
>> On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 14:57, Phil Steitz wrote:
>>
>>> We currently depend on SNAPSHOTs for [discovery], [lang] and 
>>> [collections].  I think these should be changed to depend on released 
>>> versions.
>>>
>>> Somehow, we need to get the released [discovery] 0.2 uploaded to 
>>> ibiblio (only 0.1 and a way out of date snapshot -- which we depend 
>>> on -- is there now).  If no one else does this in the next couple of 
>>> days, I will figure out how to make the Jira request to get this 
>>> done.  Once this is done, I would like to change to 0.2 release 
>>> dependency, unless others have objections.
>>>
>>> We should be depending on [lang] 2.0, which is available.  If there 
>>> are no objections, I would like to make this change now.
>>>
>>> Once [collections] 3 goes final, we should change to that.  I am OK 
>>> staying with the SNAPSHOT for now (since it is pretty much up to 
>>> date), and moving to 3 final when this goes up.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
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Re: [math] SNAPSHOT dependencies

Posted by "Mark R. Diggory" <md...@latte.harvard.edu>.
We do have the nightly builds directory producing nightly releases. My 
question:
Can we also push jars and src releases out into this directory using Maven?

-Mark

John Casey wrote:

> I believe you just have to go to http://jira.codehaus.org and add a new
> issue to the MAVENUPLOAD project. At least, that's what I see fly by at
> around 5 a day on the maven dev list...just FYI.
> 
> -john
> 
> On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 14:57, Phil Steitz wrote:
> 
>>We currently depend on SNAPSHOTs for [discovery], [lang] and 
>>[collections].  I think these should be changed to depend on released 
>>versions.
>>
>>Somehow, we need to get the released [discovery] 0.2 uploaded to ibiblio 
>>(only 0.1 and a way out of date snapshot -- which we depend on -- is there 
>>now).  If no one else does this in the next couple of days, I will figure 
>>out how to make the Jira request to get this done.  Once this is done, I 
>>would like to change to 0.2 release dependency, unless others have 
>>objections.
>>
>>We should be depending on [lang] 2.0, which is available.  If there are no 
>>objections, I would like to make this change now.
>>
>>Once [collections] 3 goes final, we should change to that.  I am OK 
>>staying with the SNAPSHOT for now (since it is pretty much up to date), 
>>and moving to 3 final when this goes up.
>>
>>Phil
>>
>>
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Re: [math] SNAPSHOT dependencies

Posted by John Casey <jd...@commonjava.org>.
I believe you just have to go to http://jira.codehaus.org and add a new
issue to the MAVENUPLOAD project. At least, that's what I see fly by at
around 5 a day on the maven dev list...just FYI.

-john

On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 14:57, Phil Steitz wrote:
> We currently depend on SNAPSHOTs for [discovery], [lang] and 
> [collections].  I think these should be changed to depend on released 
> versions.
> 
> Somehow, we need to get the released [discovery] 0.2 uploaded to ibiblio 
> (only 0.1 and a way out of date snapshot -- which we depend on -- is there 
> now).  If no one else does this in the next couple of days, I will figure 
> out how to make the Jira request to get this done.  Once this is done, I 
> would like to change to 0.2 release dependency, unless others have 
> objections.
> 
> We should be depending on [lang] 2.0, which is available.  If there are no 
> objections, I would like to make this change now.
> 
> Once [collections] 3 goes final, we should change to that.  I am OK 
> staying with the SNAPSHOT for now (since it is pretty much up to date), 
> and moving to 3 final when this goes up.
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
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Re: [math] SNAPSHOT dependencies

Posted by "Mark R. Diggory" <md...@latte.harvard.edu>.
Phil Steitz wrote:

> We currently depend on SNAPSHOTs for [discovery], [lang] and 
> [collections].  I think these should be changed to depend on released 
> versions.
> 

We had a bunch of discussions about this awhile back. I think my 
position was different to others who wanted us to place specific 
versions for dependencies in place.

The general strategy I've been taking is straight out of the Maven User 
Guide.

http://maven.apache.org/reference/user-guide.html#Deploying

When Maven is used to create a distribution of the project the snapshot 
dependencies are resolved to their corresponding versioned releases. 
This way the development trunk is always building against the latest 
snapshot of the dependencies and we stay caught up in our development 
against these while an actual src/binary distribution will stay 
dependent on the specific versions established at its point of release.


> Somehow, we need to get the released [discovery] 0.2 uploaded to ibiblio 
> (only 0.1 and a way out of date snapshot -- which we depend on -- is 
> there now).  If no one else does this in the next couple of days, I will 
> figure out how to make the Jira request to get this done.  Once this is 
> done, I would like to change to 0.2 release dependency, unless others 
> have objections.

Yes, [discovery] looks pretty out of date on ibiblio

http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/commons-discovery/jars/

> 
> We should be depending on [lang] 2.0, which is available.  If there are 
> no objections, I would like to make this change now.
> 

Right now the Snapshoot for lang is identical to 2.0 (see file sizes and 
checksums). It should resolve to 2.0 when the distributions are 
generated in Maven.

http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/commons-lang/jars/



> Once [collections] 3 goes final, we should change to that.  I am OK 
> staying with the SNAPSHOT for now (since it is pretty much up to date), 
> and moving to 3 final when this goes up.
> 

The snapshot for collections is actually newer than the last version 3.0 
dev release.

http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/commons-collections/jars/

  commons-collections-..> 07-Nov-2003 12:34   598k  <-- Nov. snapshot
  commons-collections-..> 07-Nov-2003 12:35     1k
  commons-collections-..> 03-Jan-2004 00:32   842k <-- jan snapshoot
  commons-collections-..> 03-Jan-2004 00:32     1k
  commons-collections-..> 22-Apr-2003 08:58   463k
  commons-collections-..> 27-Oct-2003 18:40     1k
  commons-collections-..> 07-Nov-2003 12:35   598k <--3.0-dev2(Nov.snap)
  commons-collections-..> 03-Jan-2004 00:32   842k <--link to jan snap
  commons-collections-..> 03-Jan-2004 00:32     1k
  commons-collections-..> 18-Apr-2003 04:40     1k
  commons-collections-..> 27-Oct-2003 16:39    60k
  commons-collections-..> 27-Oct-2003 18:40     1k
  commons-collections-..> 03-Jan-2004 00:11    98k
  commons-collections-..> 03-Jan-2004 00:11     1k
  commons-collections-..> 03-Jan-2004 00:11    98k



Why don't we both document and work out the details for publishing to 
ibiblio for [math] as snapshot and to get the dependencies updated as 
well. We should be getting out dated snapshot src/binary distributions 
as well and make sure these get updated on a more regular basis.

-Mark

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