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Posted to dev@tuscany.apache.org by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> on 2008/02/27 19:41:27 UTC
Re: A Chinese version of Tuscany's technical page
We have fixed the technical issues that were preventing us to continue
with this effort, so I guess we are ready to accept the Chinese
translation of the Tuscany website.
I think the following are the next steps we should take :
- Remove the old corrupted contents from our wiki ( I can do this
later today if people are ok)
- Chinese community to post a fresh version of the Chinese translation
of Tuscany website
- Raymond (our Chinese guru) would help us review the contents
- Make sure the contributors ha CLAs on file with Apache (they don't
have it as of today), see [1]
- Once contents are reviewed and CLAs in place, migrate the contents
to our website wiki.
Thoughts ?
[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg25115.html
2007/11/7 Mike Edwards <mi...@gmail.com>:
> Luciano,
>
> Just to let you know that in principle Confluence Wiki software can deal
> with pages in Chinese and other languages using non-Western scripts.
>
> The OSOA Wiki has some Chinese and Japanese pages, here is an example:
>
> http://www.osoa.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=416
>
> The OSOA installation uses the Postgre database. Which one is being
> used by the Apache Wiki?
>
>
> Yours, Mike.
>
>
>
> Luciano Resende wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I haven't heard back from infra@ yet, and the guys on
> > Infra IRC weren't able to give much help this morning. I'm going to
> > check if the confluence guys have a IRC chat or something similar...
> >
> > On 11/6/07, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Yes, it looks like there is some kind of post-process on these pages
> >>> that are transforming all the unicode/internation characters in ???.
> >>> Let me fire a mail to infra guys...
> >> Luciano,
> >> Did you hear back from infra? Is there a solution?
> >>
> >> Haleh
> >>
> >> On 11/5/07, 王洪伟 <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Yes, I had the same experience. it works well in time of editoring and
> >>> saving, but goes wrong after some time.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2007/11/6, Junjie Guo <gu...@gmail.com>:
> >>>> I edited and changed the wrong Chinese page to right page,but it is
> >>> wrong
> >>>> yet in this morning.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know what happened in the evening.For example,audited by others
> >>>> and
> >>>> autoexec tasks by wiki software, ect. I'm guessing that the question is
> >>> in
> >>>> here possibly.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/6/07, Simon Nash <na...@hursley.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>>>> I am seeing all these strings as ????. I'm guessing that there was
> >>>>> some difference between them when Raymond entered them in his post.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Simon
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Raymond Feng wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I did a test following the instructions from confluence and it
> >>> turned
> >>>>>> out that the Database cannot handle the roundtrip correctly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/admin/encodingtestrun.action
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Test 2: Form submission
> >>>>>> This is the test string pasted by you into the web form and
> >>> submitted
> >>>>>> back to Confluence
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ????
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Test 3: Database round-trip (select as lower-case)
> >>>>>> This is the string from Test 2 after being stored in the database
> >>> and
> >>>>>> then retrieved as lower-case
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ????
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Test 4: Database round-trip (select as upper-case)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is the string from Test 2 after being stored in the database
> >>> and
> >>>>>> then retrieved as upper-case
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ????
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Expected result (converting Java string to uppercase)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Raymond
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luciano Resende" <
> >>>>> luckbr1975@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> To: <tu...@ws.apache.org>
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:14 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: A Chinese version of Tuscany's technical page
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes, it looks like there is some kind of post-process on these
> >>> pages
> >>>>>>> that are transforming all the unicode/internation characters in
> >>> ???.
> >>>>>>> Let me fire a mail to infra guys...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 11/5/07, Simon Nash <na...@hursley.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I see some characters "??" on [1], and I also see many ?
> >>> characters
> >>>> on
> >>>>>>>> the Wiki pages that Junjie put up.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Do other people see these "?" characters as well? I think this is
> >>>>>>>> the problem that Junjie is describing.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Simon
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> haleh mahbod wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> It looks fine to me, but I can't understand it :) Raymond can
> >>> you
> >>>>>>>>> please
> >>>>>>>>> check it out before it is moved to the website?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 11/3/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I made a quick test, and added a page [1] with some special
> >>>>>>>>>> characters, and Chinese characters, and it looks like confluence
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>> handling it OK...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Could you try copying one page again and let's see how it goes ?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Test+lresende
> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/1/07, Junjie Guo <gu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> All the Chinese pages that I wrote in the wiki yestoday change
> >>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> ?????, it was OK yestoday,but now...... Why?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Chinese+Website
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/24/07, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Junjie,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can help to move the page to the website. Let me know when
> >>> you
> >>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>> done
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> with your update. How are you planning to keep the pages in
> >>> sync
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> English version moving forward?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Haleh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/23/07, Simon Nash <na...@hursley.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Junjie,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's great news. The easiest way to do this would be for
> >>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to put these pages on the Tuscany Wiki. It's at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Home
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can create a new child page under the top level home page
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and put the Chinese pages there. When the pages are there,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Tuscany community can take a look at them and someone who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> has read-write access to the Tuscany Web site can move them
> >>>> over
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the Web site. We can handle later updates to these pages
> >>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the same way.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have a Contributor License Agreement on file with
> >>>> Apache?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is needed for licensing reasons before we can put the
> >>>> pages
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the Tuscany Web site. The page
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> explains what is needed. See the descriptions of the
> >>>> Individual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Contributor License Agreement and the Corporate CLA in the
> >>>>> section
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled Contributor License Agreements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Simon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Junjie Guo wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simon,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in Shangguang Geng's team, we would like to put the
> >>>> Chinese
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content to the Tuscany Web site.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which format or way we use send it to you? We want the
> >>> better
> >>>>> way
> >>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we have a account for Tuscany Web site and can edit it
> >>> in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Junjie
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/18/07, Simon Nash <na...@hursley.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geng,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These Chinese pages look like a great way to increase
> >>> Tuscany
> >>>>>>>>>> interest
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and accessibility for the Chinese developer community.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can they be hosted on the Tuscany Web site instead of on a
> >>>>>>>>>> separate
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site? I am thinking of a toggle on the Tuscany site that
> >>>>> allows
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viewer to select either an English or Chinese version of
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> pages.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would prevent any problems with Tuscany or ASF
> >>>>> intellectual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property, because these pages would be part of the Tuscany
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>> ASF
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web site.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shaoguang geng wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, every one:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In name of CE.Dongli (China,Beijing). We registersd tow
> >>>>>>>>>> namespaces as:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.ce-tuscany.cn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.tuscany.org.cn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out intention is to promote Tuscany in China. Pages in the
> >>>>> site
> >>>>>>>>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> translated from Tuscany's page and English doc, and there is
> >>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>> BBS and
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki to raise interests from local developers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the site is ready for review from all of you, and we
> >>>>> expect
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions from you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Logo and page style are all possibly confilcting with
> >>>> Tuscany
> >>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>> ASF's
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> intellect property.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But please belive that all those are going to be improved!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regard, Geng.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________
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> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Luciano Resende
> >>>>>>>>>> Apache Tuscany Committer
> >>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> >>>>>>>>>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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> >>>>>>> Luciano Resende
> >>>>>>> Apache Tuscany Committer
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> >>>>>>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: A Chinese version of Tuscany's technical page
Posted by Simon Nash <na...@apache.org>.
Luciano Resende wrote:
> We have fixed the technical issues that were preventing us to continue
> with this effort, so I guess we are ready to accept the Chinese
> translation of the Tuscany website.
>
> I think the following are the next steps we should take :
>
> - Remove the old corrupted contents from our wiki ( I can do this
> later today if people are ok)
> - Chinese community to post a fresh version of the Chinese translation
> of Tuscany website
> - Raymond (our Chinese guru) would help us review the contents
> - Make sure the contributors ha CLAs on file with Apache (they don't
> have it as of today), see [1]
> - Once contents are reviewed and CLAs in place, migrate the contents
> to our website wiki.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
Thanks Luciano for following through on this.
+1 to all your suggestions for how to proceed.
Simon
> [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg25115.html
>
> 2007/11/7 Mike Edwards <mi...@gmail.com>:
>> Luciano,
>>
>> Just to let you know that in principle Confluence Wiki software can deal
>> with pages in Chinese and other languages using non-Western scripts.
>>
>> The OSOA Wiki has some Chinese and Japanese pages, here is an example:
>>
>> http://www.osoa.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=416
>>
>> The OSOA installation uses the Postgre database. Which one is being
>> used by the Apache Wiki?
>>
>>
>> Yours, Mike.
>>
>>
>>
>> Luciano Resende wrote:
>> > Unfortunately, I haven't heard back from infra@ yet, and the guys on
>> > Infra IRC weren't able to give much help this morning. I'm going to
>> > check if the confluence guys have a IRC chat or something similar...
>> >
>> (cut)
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