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overriding qf in q affecting boosts
If I have a set list in solrconfig for my "qf" along with their
boosts, and I then specify field names directly in q (where I could
also override the boosts), are the boosts left in place, or reset to 1?
<str name="qf">
this^3
that^2
other^9
</str>
ie q=field1:+(this that) +(other)
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Re: overriding qf in q affecting boosts
Posted by Tomás Fernández Löbbe <to...@gmail.com>.
Yes, if you take a look at the debugQuery output you'll see the generated
query. It should contain the fields and boost as specified in the "q"
parameter.
You could also use index-time boosting if those boosts are static.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Robert Brown <ro...@intelcompute.com> wrote:
> So I need to explicitly set the boosts in the query?
>
> ie
>
> q=+(field1:this^2 field1:"that thing"^4) +(field2:other^3)
>
>
>
> ---
>
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>
> http://www.intelcompute.com
>
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:49:34 -0300, Tomás Fernández Löbbe
> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In this case, the boost and fields in the "qf" parameter won't be
> > considered for the search. With this query Solr will search for documents
> > with the terms "this" and/or (depending on your default operator) "that"
> in
> > the field1 and the term "other" in the field2
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Robert Brown <ro...@intelcompute.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Tomás,
> >>
> >> My example should have read...
> >>
> >> q=+(field1:this field1:that) +(field2:other)
> >>
> >> I'm using edismax.
> >>
> >> so with this approach, the boosts as specified in solrconfig qf will
> >> remain in place?
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> IntelCompute
> >> Web Design & Local Online Marketing
> >>
> >> http://www.intelcompute.com
> >>
> >> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:17:59 -0300, Tomás Fernández Löbbe
> >> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi Robert, the answer depends on the query parser you are using. If
> you
> >> are
> >> > using the "edismax" query parser, then the "qf" will only be used when
> >> you
> >> > don't specify any field in the "q" parameter. In your example the
> result
> >> > query will be, boolean queries for "this" and "that" in the field1
> and a
> >> > DisMax query for the term "other" in fields (and the boost) you
> specify
> >> in
> >> > qf.
> >> >
> >> > If you use "dismax" the field in the query will not be considered and
> if
> >> > you use LuceneQP the qf are not considered and it is going to use the
> >> > default search field for the term "other" and no boost.
> >> >
> >> > You can see this very easily turning on the "debugQuery".
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Tomás
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Robert Brown <ro...@intelcompute.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> If I have a set list in solrconfig for my "qf" along with their
> boosts,
> >> >> and I then specify field names directly in q (where I could also
> >> override
> >> >> the boosts), are the boosts left in place, or reset to 1?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> <str name="qf">
> >> >> this^3
> >> >> that^2
> >> >> other^9
> >> >> </str>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ie q=field1:+(this that) +(other)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> IntelCompute
> >> >> Web Design & Local Online Marketing
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.intelcompute.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: overriding qf in q affecting boosts
Posted by Robert Brown <ro...@intelcompute.com>.
So I need to explicitly set the boosts in the query?
ie
q=+(field1:this^2 field1:"that thing"^4) +(field2:other^3)
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On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:49:34 -0300, Tomás Fernández Löbbe
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In this case, the boost and fields in the "qf" parameter won't be
> considered for the search. With this query Solr will search for documents
> with the terms "this" and/or (depending on your default operator) "that" in
> the field1 and the term "other" in the field2
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Robert Brown <ro...@intelcompute.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tomás,
>>
>> My example should have read...
>>
>> q=+(field1:this field1:that) +(field2:other)
>>
>> I'm using edismax.
>>
>> so with this approach, the boosts as specified in solrconfig qf will
>> remain in place?
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> IntelCompute
>> Web Design & Local Online Marketing
>>
>> http://www.intelcompute.com
>>
>> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:17:59 -0300, Tomás Fernández Löbbe
>> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Robert, the answer depends on the query parser you are using. If you
>> are
>> > using the "edismax" query parser, then the "qf" will only be used when
>> you
>> > don't specify any field in the "q" parameter. In your example the result
>> > query will be, boolean queries for "this" and "that" in the field1 and a
>> > DisMax query for the term "other" in fields (and the boost) you specify
>> in
>> > qf.
>> >
>> > If you use "dismax" the field in the query will not be considered and if
>> > you use LuceneQP the qf are not considered and it is going to use the
>> > default search field for the term "other" and no boost.
>> >
>> > You can see this very easily turning on the "debugQuery".
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Tomás
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Robert Brown <ro...@intelcompute.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> If I have a set list in solrconfig for my "qf" along with their boosts,
>> >> and I then specify field names directly in q (where I could also
>> override
>> >> the boosts), are the boosts left in place, or reset to 1?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> <str name="qf">
>> >> this^3
>> >> that^2
>> >> other^9
>> >> </str>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ie q=field1:+(this that) +(other)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> IntelCompute
>> >> Web Design & Local Online Marketing
>> >>
>> >> http://www.intelcompute.com
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
Re: overriding qf in q affecting boosts
Posted by Tomás Fernández Löbbe <to...@gmail.com>.
In this case, the boost and fields in the "qf" parameter won't be
considered for the search. With this query Solr will search for documents
with the terms "this" and/or (depending on your default operator) "that" in
the field1 and the term "other" in the field2
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Robert Brown <ro...@intelcompute.com> wrote:
> Thanks Tomás,
>
> My example should have read...
>
> q=+(field1:this field1:that) +(field2:other)
>
> I'm using edismax.
>
> so with this approach, the boosts as specified in solrconfig qf will
> remain in place?
>
>
> ---
>
> IntelCompute
> Web Design & Local Online Marketing
>
> http://www.intelcompute.com
>
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:17:59 -0300, Tomás Fernández Löbbe
> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Robert, the answer depends on the query parser you are using. If you
> are
> > using the "edismax" query parser, then the "qf" will only be used when
> you
> > don't specify any field in the "q" parameter. In your example the result
> > query will be, boolean queries for "this" and "that" in the field1 and a
> > DisMax query for the term "other" in fields (and the boost) you specify
> in
> > qf.
> >
> > If you use "dismax" the field in the query will not be considered and if
> > you use LuceneQP the qf are not considered and it is going to use the
> > default search field for the term "other" and no boost.
> >
> > You can see this very easily turning on the "debugQuery".
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tomás
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Robert Brown <ro...@intelcompute.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> If I have a set list in solrconfig for my "qf" along with their boosts,
> >> and I then specify field names directly in q (where I could also
> override
> >> the boosts), are the boosts left in place, or reset to 1?
> >>
> >>
> >> <str name="qf">
> >> this^3
> >> that^2
> >> other^9
> >> </str>
> >>
> >>
> >> ie q=field1:+(this that) +(other)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> IntelCompute
> >> Web Design & Local Online Marketing
> >>
> >> http://www.intelcompute.com
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: overriding qf in q affecting boosts
Posted by Robert Brown <ro...@intelcompute.com>.
Thanks Tomás,
My example should have read...
q=+(field1:this field1:that) +(field2:other)
I'm using edismax.
so with this approach, the boosts as specified in solrconfig qf will
remain in place?
---
IntelCompute
Web Design & Local Online Marketing
http://www.intelcompute.com
On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:17:59 -0300, Tomás Fernández Löbbe
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Robert, the answer depends on the query parser you are using. If you are
> using the "edismax" query parser, then the "qf" will only be used when you
> don't specify any field in the "q" parameter. In your example the result
> query will be, boolean queries for "this" and "that" in the field1 and a
> DisMax query for the term "other" in fields (and the boost) you specify in
> qf.
>
> If you use "dismax" the field in the query will not be considered and if
> you use LuceneQP the qf are not considered and it is going to use the
> default search field for the term "other" and no boost.
>
> You can see this very easily turning on the "debugQuery".
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomás
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Robert Brown <ro...@intelcompute.com> wrote:
>
>> If I have a set list in solrconfig for my "qf" along with their boosts,
>> and I then specify field names directly in q (where I could also override
>> the boosts), are the boosts left in place, or reset to 1?
>>
>>
>> <str name="qf">
>> this^3
>> that^2
>> other^9
>> </str>
>>
>>
>> ie q=field1:+(this that) +(other)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> IntelCompute
>> Web Design & Local Online Marketing
>>
>> http://www.intelcompute.com
>>
>>
Re: overriding qf in q affecting boosts
Posted by Tomás Fernández Löbbe <to...@gmail.com>.
Hi Robert, the answer depends on the query parser you are using. If you are
using the "edismax" query parser, then the "qf" will only be used when you
don't specify any field in the "q" parameter. In your example the result
query will be, boolean queries for "this" and "that" in the field1 and a
DisMax query for the term "other" in fields (and the boost) you specify in
qf.
If you use "dismax" the field in the query will not be considered and if
you use LuceneQP the qf are not considered and it is going to use the
default search field for the term "other" and no boost.
You can see this very easily turning on the "debugQuery".
Regards,
Tomás
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Robert Brown <ro...@intelcompute.com> wrote:
> If I have a set list in solrconfig for my "qf" along with their boosts,
> and I then specify field names directly in q (where I could also override
> the boosts), are the boosts left in place, or reset to 1?
>
>
> <str name="qf">
> this^3
> that^2
> other^9
> </str>
>
>
> ie q=field1:+(this that) +(other)
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> IntelCompute
> Web Design & Local Online Marketing
>
> http://www.intelcompute.com
>
>