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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by Orm Finnendahl <or...@selma.hfmdk-frankfurt.de> on 2020/04/12 20:49:42 UTC
use case report: OM on Android Tablet
Hi,
this is an information for a use case I came up with in the last days
that I want to share with you:
In order to increase the useability of the OM whiteboard, I added a
user account for an additional login with an Android tablet, intended
to be used as a pen driven input device for the whiteboard (it's much
more precise for drawing than using a mouse).
As the video windows of the online participants clutter the tablet
screen and it seems impossible to move the windows anywhere, I changed
the CSS using the "Stylish" add-on (on Android this only exists for
firefox) to hide all video windows in OM on the tablet. It works
really well: I now have an unobstructed view of the whiteboard on the
tablet and can draw everywhere. My laptop is used for the video
communication and everything else. I even think about removing the
left pane as well on the tablet to increase the useable whiteboard
area even more.
In case anyone is interested in the relevant CSS code let me know (via
this list) and I can share the code and a step by step implementation
HOWTO. It's quite easy.
--
Orm
Re: use case report: OM on Android Tablet
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 13:17 R. Scholz <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> a few months ago I tried to connect a mouse (with an USB-Adapter).
>
Wasn't aware it is possible
Good to know
I mean to remember that I can move all windows with it on Tablet and
> Smartphone.
>
> With best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 13.04.2020 um 05:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 05:16, ratatouille <ra...@bitclusive.de>
> wrote:
>
>> ratatouille <ra...@bitclusive.de> schrieb am 12.04.20 um 23:20:30
>> Uhr:
>>
>> > > this is an information for a use case I came up with in the last days
>> > > that I want to share with you:
>> > >
>> > > In order to increase the useability of the OM whiteboard, I added a
>> > > user account for an additional login with an Android tablet, intended
>> > > to be used as a pen driven input device for the whiteboard (it's much
>> > > more precise for drawing than using a mouse).
>> > >
>>
>
> This make sense
> In M4 situation is little bit improved: audio-only windows are already
> hidden
> There was feature request to add "Minimize all windows" hotkey (I guess it
> should be Menu item for tablet)
> This also might help
>
>
>> > > As the video windows of the online participants clutter the tablet
>> > > screen and it seems impossible to move the windows anywhere, I changed
>> > > the CSS using the "Stylish" add-on (on Android this only exists for
>> > > firefox) to hide all video windows in OM on the tablet. It works
>> > > really well: I now have an unobstructed view of the whiteboard on the
>> > > tablet and can draw everywhere. My laptop is used for the video
>> > > communication and everything else. I even think about removing the
>> > > left pane as well on the tablet to increase the useable whiteboard
>> > > area even more.
>> > >
>> > > In case anyone is interested in the relevant CSS code let me know (via
>> > > this list) and I can share the code and a step by step implementation
>> > > HOWTO. It's quite easy.
>> >
>> > I would be very interessted to be able to login with my Android phone
>> but
>> > after putting in the credentials I am thrown back to the login screen
>> and
>> > can't proceed.
>> >
>> > 79.227.148.124 - - [12/Apr/2020:23:14:20 +0200] "GET
>> /openmeetings/wicket/bookmarkable/org.apache.openmeetings.web.pages.auth.SignInPage;jsession
>> > id=CA0803C28DC05A4BFB138F7140099697?1-1.0-&&_=1586726054851 HTTP/1.1"
>> 200 80
>> > 79.227.148.124 - - [12/Apr/2020:23:14:20 +0200] "GET
>> /openmeetings/wicket/bookmarkable/org.apache.openmeetings.web.pages.auth.SignInPage;jsession
>> >
>> id=CA0803C28DC05A4BFB138F7140099697?1-1.0-signin&navigatorAppName=Netscape&navigatorAppVersion=5.0%20(Linux%3B%20U%3B%20Android%204.0.3%3B%20de-d
>> >
>> e%3B%20U8860%20Build%2FHuaweiU8860)%20AppleWebKit%2F534.30%20(KHTML%2C%20like%20Gecko)%20Version%2F4.0%20Mobile%20Safari%2F534.30&navigatorAppCod
>> >
>> eName=Mozilla&navigatorCookieEnabled=false&navigatorJavaEnabled=false&navigatorLanguage=de-DE&navigatorPlatform=Linux%20armv7l&navigatorUserAgent
>> >
>> =Mozilla%2F5.0%20(Linux%3B%20U%3B%20Android%204.0.3%3B%20de-de%3B%20U8860%20Build%2FHuaweiU8860)%20AppleWebKit%2F534.30%20(KHTML%2C%20like%20Geck
>> >
>> o)%20Version%2F4.0%20Mobile%20Safari%2F534.30&screenWidth=480&screenHeight=854&screenColorDepth=32&utcOffset=1&utcDSTOffset=2&browserWidth=320&br
>> > owserHeight=544&hostname=bitcorner.de&_=1586726054852 HTTP/1.1" 200 80
>>
>
> Please check openmeetings.log NOT `*access*`.log
>
>
>>
>> Just tried with another smartphone Android version 4.2.2 and I could
>> login. But I see the blue chatline only, nothinge else.
>>
>
> I guess Websockets are not supported in this browser (Android 4.2.2 should
> be something extremely old)
>
>
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>
>
Re: use case report: OM on Android Tablet
Posted by "R. Scholz" <re...@abakus-edv-systems.de>.
Hello,
a few months ago I tried to connect a mouse (with an USB-Adapter).
I mean to remember that I can move all windows with it on Tablet and
Smartphone.
With best regards,
René
Am 13.04.2020 um 05:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 05:16, ratatouille <ratatouille@bitclusive.de
> <ma...@bitclusive.de>> wrote:
>
> ratatouille <ratatouille@bitclusive.de
> <ma...@bitclusive.de>> schrieb am 12.04.20 um
> 23:20:30 Uhr:
>
> > > this is an information for a use case I came up with in the
> last days
> > > that I want to share with you:
> > >
> > > In order to increase the useability of the OM whiteboard, I
> added a
> > > user account for an additional login with an Android tablet,
> intended
> > > to be used as a pen driven input device for the whiteboard
> (it's much
> > > more precise for drawing than using a mouse).
> > >
>
>
> This make sense
> In M4 situation is little bit improved: audio-only windows are already
> hidden
> There was feature request to add "Minimize all windows" hotkey (I
> guess it should be Menu item for tablet)
> This also might help
>
> > > As the video windows of the online participants clutter the tablet
> > > screen and it seems impossible to move the windows anywhere, I
> changed
> > > the CSS using the "Stylish" add-on (on Android this only
> exists for
> > > firefox) to hide all video windows in OM on the tablet. It works
> > > really well: I now have an unobstructed view of the whiteboard
> on the
> > > tablet and can draw everywhere. My laptop is used for the video
> > > communication and everything else. I even think about removing the
> > > left pane as well on the tablet to increase the useable whiteboard
> > > area even more.
> > >
> > > In case anyone is interested in the relevant CSS code let me
> know (via
> > > this list) and I can share the code and a step by step
> implementation
> > > HOWTO. It's quite easy.
> >
> > I would be very interessted to be able to login with my Android
> phone but
> > after putting in the credentials I am thrown back to the login
> screen and
> > can't proceed.
> >
> > 79.227.148.124 - - [12/Apr/2020:23:14:20 +0200] "GET
> /openmeetings/wicket/bookmarkable/org.apache.openmeetings.web.pages.auth.SignInPage;jsession
> > id=CA0803C28DC05A4BFB138F7140099697?1-1.0-&&_=1586726054851
> HTTP/1.1" 200 80
> > 79.227.148.124 - - [12/Apr/2020:23:14:20 +0200] "GET
> /openmeetings/wicket/bookmarkable/org.apache.openmeetings.web.pages.auth.SignInPage;jsession
> >
> id=CA0803C28DC05A4BFB138F7140099697?1-1.0-signin&navigatorAppName=Netscape&navigatorAppVersion=5.0%20(Linux%3B%20U%3B%20Android%204.0.3%3B%20de-d
> >
> e%3B%20U8860%20Build%2FHuaweiU8860)%20AppleWebKit%2F534.30%20(KHTML%2C%20like%20Gecko)%20Version%2F4.0%20Mobile%20Safari%2F534.30&navigatorAppCod
> >
> eName=Mozilla&navigatorCookieEnabled=false&navigatorJavaEnabled=false&navigatorLanguage=de-DE&navigatorPlatform=Linux%20armv7l&navigatorUserAgent
> >
> =Mozilla%2F5.0%20(Linux%3B%20U%3B%20Android%204.0.3%3B%20de-de%3B%20U8860%20Build%2FHuaweiU8860)%20AppleWebKit%2F534.30%20(KHTML%2C%20like%20Geck
> >
> o)%20Version%2F4.0%20Mobile%20Safari%2F534.30&screenWidth=480&screenHeight=854&screenColorDepth=32&utcOffset=1&utcDSTOffset=2&browserWidth=320&br
> > owserHeight=544&hostname=bitcorner.de
> <http://bitcorner.de>&_=1586726054852 HTTP/1.1" 200 80
>
>
> Please check openmeetings.log NOT `*access*`.log
>
>
> Just tried with another smartphone Android version 4.2.2 and I could
> login. But I see the blue chatline only, nothinge else.
>
>
> I guess Websockets are not supported in this browser (Android 4.2.2
> should be something extremely old)
>
>
> Andreas
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
Re: use case report: OM on Android Tablet
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello,
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 05:16, ratatouille <ra...@bitclusive.de> wrote:
> ratatouille <ra...@bitclusive.de> schrieb am 12.04.20 um 23:20:30
> Uhr:
>
> > > this is an information for a use case I came up with in the last days
> > > that I want to share with you:
> > >
> > > In order to increase the useability of the OM whiteboard, I added a
> > > user account for an additional login with an Android tablet, intended
> > > to be used as a pen driven input device for the whiteboard (it's much
> > > more precise for drawing than using a mouse).
> > >
>
This make sense
In M4 situation is little bit improved: audio-only windows are already
hidden
There was feature request to add "Minimize all windows" hotkey (I guess it
should be Menu item for tablet)
This also might help
> > > As the video windows of the online participants clutter the tablet
> > > screen and it seems impossible to move the windows anywhere, I changed
> > > the CSS using the "Stylish" add-on (on Android this only exists for
> > > firefox) to hide all video windows in OM on the tablet. It works
> > > really well: I now have an unobstructed view of the whiteboard on the
> > > tablet and can draw everywhere. My laptop is used for the video
> > > communication and everything else. I even think about removing the
> > > left pane as well on the tablet to increase the useable whiteboard
> > > area even more.
> > >
> > > In case anyone is interested in the relevant CSS code let me know (via
> > > this list) and I can share the code and a step by step implementation
> > > HOWTO. It's quite easy.
> >
> > I would be very interessted to be able to login with my Android phone but
> > after putting in the credentials I am thrown back to the login screen and
> > can't proceed.
> >
> > 79.227.148.124 - - [12/Apr/2020:23:14:20 +0200] "GET
> /openmeetings/wicket/bookmarkable/org.apache.openmeetings.web.pages.auth.SignInPage;jsession
> > id=CA0803C28DC05A4BFB138F7140099697?1-1.0-&&_=1586726054851 HTTP/1.1"
> 200 80
> > 79.227.148.124 - - [12/Apr/2020:23:14:20 +0200] "GET
> /openmeetings/wicket/bookmarkable/org.apache.openmeetings.web.pages.auth.SignInPage;jsession
> >
> id=CA0803C28DC05A4BFB138F7140099697?1-1.0-signin&navigatorAppName=Netscape&navigatorAppVersion=5.0%20(Linux%3B%20U%3B%20Android%204.0.3%3B%20de-d
> >
> e%3B%20U8860%20Build%2FHuaweiU8860)%20AppleWebKit%2F534.30%20(KHTML%2C%20like%20Gecko)%20Version%2F4.0%20Mobile%20Safari%2F534.30&navigatorAppCod
> >
> eName=Mozilla&navigatorCookieEnabled=false&navigatorJavaEnabled=false&navigatorLanguage=de-DE&navigatorPlatform=Linux%20armv7l&navigatorUserAgent
> >
> =Mozilla%2F5.0%20(Linux%3B%20U%3B%20Android%204.0.3%3B%20de-de%3B%20U8860%20Build%2FHuaweiU8860)%20AppleWebKit%2F534.30%20(KHTML%2C%20like%20Geck
> >
> o)%20Version%2F4.0%20Mobile%20Safari%2F534.30&screenWidth=480&screenHeight=854&screenColorDepth=32&utcOffset=1&utcDSTOffset=2&browserWidth=320&br
> > owserHeight=544&hostname=bitcorner.de&_=1586726054852 HTTP/1.1" 200 80
>
Please check openmeetings.log NOT `*access*`.log
>
> Just tried with another smartphone Android version 4.2.2 and I could
> login. But I see the blue chatline only, nothinge else.
>
I guess Websockets are not supported in this browser (Android 4.2.2 should
be something extremely old)
>
> Andreas
>
--
Best regards,
Maxim
Re: use case report: OM on Android Tablet
Posted by ratatouille <ra...@bitclusive.de>.
ratatouille <ra...@bitclusive.de> schrieb am 12.04.20 um 23:20:30 Uhr:
> > this is an information for a use case I came up with in the last days
> > that I want to share with you:
> >
> > In order to increase the useability of the OM whiteboard, I added a
> > user account for an additional login with an Android tablet, intended
> > to be used as a pen driven input device for the whiteboard (it's much
> > more precise for drawing than using a mouse).
> >
> > As the video windows of the online participants clutter the tablet
> > screen and it seems impossible to move the windows anywhere, I changed
> > the CSS using the "Stylish" add-on (on Android this only exists for
> > firefox) to hide all video windows in OM on the tablet. It works
> > really well: I now have an unobstructed view of the whiteboard on the
> > tablet and can draw everywhere. My laptop is used for the video
> > communication and everything else. I even think about removing the
> > left pane as well on the tablet to increase the useable whiteboard
> > area even more.
> >
> > In case anyone is interested in the relevant CSS code let me know (via
> > this list) and I can share the code and a step by step implementation
> > HOWTO. It's quite easy.
>
> I would be very interessted to be able to login with my Android phone but
> after putting in the credentials I am thrown back to the login screen and
> can't proceed.
>
> 79.227.148.124 - - [12/Apr/2020:23:14:20 +0200] "GET /openmeetings/wicket/bookmarkable/org.apache.openmeetings.web.pages.auth.SignInPage;jsession
> id=CA0803C28DC05A4BFB138F7140099697?1-1.0-&&_=1586726054851 HTTP/1.1" 200 80
> 79.227.148.124 - - [12/Apr/2020:23:14:20 +0200] "GET /openmeetings/wicket/bookmarkable/org.apache.openmeetings.web.pages.auth.SignInPage;jsession
> id=CA0803C28DC05A4BFB138F7140099697?1-1.0-signin&navigatorAppName=Netscape&navigatorAppVersion=5.0%20(Linux%3B%20U%3B%20Android%204.0.3%3B%20de-d
> e%3B%20U8860%20Build%2FHuaweiU8860)%20AppleWebKit%2F534.30%20(KHTML%2C%20like%20Gecko)%20Version%2F4.0%20Mobile%20Safari%2F534.30&navigatorAppCod
> eName=Mozilla&navigatorCookieEnabled=false&navigatorJavaEnabled=false&navigatorLanguage=de-DE&navigatorPlatform=Linux%20armv7l&navigatorUserAgent
> =Mozilla%2F5.0%20(Linux%3B%20U%3B%20Android%204.0.3%3B%20de-de%3B%20U8860%20Build%2FHuaweiU8860)%20AppleWebKit%2F534.30%20(KHTML%2C%20like%20Geck
> o)%20Version%2F4.0%20Mobile%20Safari%2F534.30&screenWidth=480&screenHeight=854&screenColorDepth=32&utcOffset=1&utcDSTOffset=2&browserWidth=320&br
> owserHeight=544&hostname=bitcorner.de&_=1586726054852 HTTP/1.1" 200 80
Just tried with another smartphone Android version 4.2.2 and I could
login. But I see the blue chatline only, nothinge else.
Andreas
Re: use case report: OM on Android Tablet
Posted by ratatouille <ra...@bitclusive.de>.
Hello!
Orm Finnendahl <or...@selma.hfmdk-frankfurt.de> schrieb am 12.04.20 um 22:49:42 Uhr:
> Hi,
>
> this is an information for a use case I came up with in the last days
> that I want to share with you:
>
> In order to increase the useability of the OM whiteboard, I added a
> user account for an additional login with an Android tablet, intended
> to be used as a pen driven input device for the whiteboard (it's much
> more precise for drawing than using a mouse).
>
> As the video windows of the online participants clutter the tablet
> screen and it seems impossible to move the windows anywhere, I changed
> the CSS using the "Stylish" add-on (on Android this only exists for
> firefox) to hide all video windows in OM on the tablet. It works
> really well: I now have an unobstructed view of the whiteboard on the
> tablet and can draw everywhere. My laptop is used for the video
> communication and everything else. I even think about removing the
> left pane as well on the tablet to increase the useable whiteboard
> area even more.
>
> In case anyone is interested in the relevant CSS code let me know (via
> this list) and I can share the code and a step by step implementation
> HOWTO. It's quite easy.
I would be very interessted to be able to login with my Android phone but
after putting in the credentials I am thrown back to the login screen and
can't proceed.
79.227.148.124 - - [12/Apr/2020:23:14:20 +0200] "GET /openmeetings/wicket/bookmarkable/org.apache.openmeetings.web.pages.auth.SignInPage;jsession
id=CA0803C28DC05A4BFB138F7140099697?1-1.0-&&_=1586726054851 HTTP/1.1" 200 80
79.227.148.124 - - [12/Apr/2020:23:14:20 +0200] "GET /openmeetings/wicket/bookmarkable/org.apache.openmeetings.web.pages.auth.SignInPage;jsession
id=CA0803C28DC05A4BFB138F7140099697?1-1.0-signin&navigatorAppName=Netscape&navigatorAppVersion=5.0%20(Linux%3B%20U%3B%20Android%204.0.3%3B%20de-d
e%3B%20U8860%20Build%2FHuaweiU8860)%20AppleWebKit%2F534.30%20(KHTML%2C%20like%20Gecko)%20Version%2F4.0%20Mobile%20Safari%2F534.30&navigatorAppCod
eName=Mozilla&navigatorCookieEnabled=false&navigatorJavaEnabled=false&navigatorLanguage=de-DE&navigatorPlatform=Linux%20armv7l&navigatorUserAgent
=Mozilla%2F5.0%20(Linux%3B%20U%3B%20Android%204.0.3%3B%20de-de%3B%20U8860%20Build%2FHuaweiU8860)%20AppleWebKit%2F534.30%20(KHTML%2C%20like%20Geck
o)%20Version%2F4.0%20Mobile%20Safari%2F534.30&screenWidth=480&screenHeight=854&screenColorDepth=32&utcOffset=1&utcDSTOffset=2&browserWidth=320&br
owserHeight=544&hostname=bitcorner.de&_=1586726054852 HTTP/1.1" 200 80
Andreas