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Mac release
Hi,
Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
if that is possible?
-Andre
[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732
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Re: Mac release
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
> complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the Apple
> app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release notes for
> AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
>
We should add this again to Release Notes for 4.0.0 and Install Guide.
>
> I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
> notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
> I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
> place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know if
> that is possible?
>
I'm not sure about this one. This happens as soon as correct download is
identified by the Download page?
>
> -Andre
>
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732>
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Re: Mac release
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 07/15/2013 06:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>>
>> Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
>>> complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
>>> Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
>>> notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
>>>
>>> I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
>>> notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
>>> I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
>>> place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
>>> if that is possible?
>>>
>>> -Andre
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732>
>>>
>>
>> It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
>> platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than it is
>> already.
>>
>> Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
>> course, it's still intermediate):
>>
>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html>
>>
>> 1) Directly in the main green box.
>> 2) In a second sub-green box.
>>
>> Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>> 1) is better.
>>
>
> maybe change wording to "Click here for known installation issues"
Sure, the wording is always changeable.
> I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should focus
> on highlighting "installation".
Actually I wanted to create a TOC for the release notes. However, it's
still locked by Herbert or Andre. Then we will have the headlines as
links and I can use the "Kniwn Issues" as jump label in the URL.
> I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
> Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.
That's good.
Marcus
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Re: Mac release
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 07/18/2013 05:23 PM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
> On 17.07.2013 22:50, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 07/15/2013 07:06 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>> Am 07/15/2013 06:57 PM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>>>> On 15.07.2013 18:08, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
>>>>>>> complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
>>>>>>> Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the
>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>> notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the
>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>> notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
>>>>>>> I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more
>>>>>>> visible
>>>>>>> place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> if that is possible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Andre
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for
>>>>>> users of
>>>>>> platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release
>>>>>> notes (of
>>>>>> course, it's still intermediate):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Directly in the main green box.
>>>>>> 2) In a second sub-green box.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) is better.
>>>>
>>>> I like 1 better, too. But it still looks too prominent. We don't
>>>> want to
>>>> scare our users (when only a minority will run into this problem).
>>>> Maybe
>>>> an explanation in the release notes is enough.
>>>
>>> I've decreased the font size a bit. And remember only 1) or 2) will
>>> survive at the end. Currently it's duplicated which maybe supports the
>>> too prominent look & feel.
>>
>> @Andre, all:
>> What do you think: Keep or leave? I just need to know this how to
>> handle the final webpage.
>
> Better leave it out.
OK, it's gone from the test webpage.
Marcus
>>>>> maybe change wording to "Click here for known installation issues"
>>>>>
>>>>> I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should
>>>>> focus
>>>>> on highlighting "installation".
>>>>>
>>>>> I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
>>>>> Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.
>>>>
>>>> Great thanks.
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Re: Mac release
Posted by Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com>.
On 17.07.2013 22:50, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 07/15/2013 07:06 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>> Am 07/15/2013 06:57 PM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>>> On 15.07.2013 18:08, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>>>>>
>>>>> Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
>>>>>> complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
>>>>>> Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the
>>>>>> release
>>>>>> notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the
>>>>>> release
>>>>>> notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
>>>>>> I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more
>>>>>> visible
>>>>>> place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> if that is possible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Andre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for
>>>>> users of
>>>>> platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than
>>>>> it is
>>>>> already.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release
>>>>> notes (of
>>>>> course, it's still intermediate):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Directly in the main green box.
>>>>> 2) In a second sub-green box.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) is better.
>>>
>>> I like 1 better, too. But it still looks too prominent. We don't
>>> want to
>>> scare our users (when only a minority will run into this problem).
>>> Maybe
>>> an explanation in the release notes is enough.
>>
>> I've decreased the font size a bit. And remember only 1) or 2) will
>> survive at the end. Currently it's duplicated which maybe supports the
>> too prominent look & feel.
>
> @Andre, all:
> What do you think: Keep or leave? I just need to know this how to
> handle the final webpage.
Better leave it out.
-Andre
>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>>>> maybe change wording to "Click here for known installation issues"
>>>>
>>>> I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should
>>>> focus
>>>> on highlighting "installation".
>>>>
>>>> I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
>>>> Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.
>>>
>>> Great thanks.
>
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Re: Mac release
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 07/15/2013 07:06 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> Am 07/15/2013 06:57 PM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>> On 15.07.2013 18:08, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>>>>
>>>> Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
>>>>> complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
>>>>> Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
>>>>> notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
>>>>> notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
>>>>> I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
>>>>> place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
>>>>> if that is possible?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Andre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
>>>> platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than it is
>>>> already.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
>>>> course, it's still intermediate):
>>>>
>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1) Directly in the main green box.
>>>> 2) In a second sub-green box.
>>>>
>>>> Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>> 1) is better.
>>
>> I like 1 better, too. But it still looks too prominent. We don't want to
>> scare our users (when only a minority will run into this problem). Maybe
>> an explanation in the release notes is enough.
>
> I've decreased the font size a bit. And remember only 1) or 2) will
> survive at the end. Currently it's duplicated which maybe supports the
> too prominent look & feel.
@Andre, all:
What do you think: Keep or leave? I just need to know this how to handle
the final webpage.
Thanks
Marcus
>>> maybe change wording to "Click here for known installation issues"
>>>
>>> I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should
>>> focus
>>> on highlighting "installation".
>>>
>>> I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
>>> Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.
>>
>> Great thanks.
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Re: Mac release
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 07/15/2013 06:57 PM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
> On 15.07.2013 18:08, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>>>
>>> Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
>>>> complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
>>>> Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
>>>> notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
>>>> notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
>>>> I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
>>>> place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
>>>> if that is possible?
>>>>
>>>> -Andre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
>>> platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than it is
>>> already.
>>>
>>> Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
>>> course, it's still intermediate):
>>>
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Directly in the main green box.
>>> 2) In a second sub-green box.
>>>
>>> Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>> 1) is better.
>
> I like 1 better, too. But it still looks too prominent. We don't want to
> scare our users (when only a minority will run into this problem). Maybe
> an explanation in the release notes is enough.
I've decreased the font size a bit. And remember only 1) or 2) will
survive at the end. Currently it's duplicated which maybe supports the
too prominent look & feel.
Marcus
>> maybe change wording to "Click here for known installation issues"
>>
>> I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should
>> focus
>> on highlighting "installation".
>>
>> I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
>> Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.
>
> Great thanks.
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Re: Mac release
Posted by Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com>.
On 15.07.2013 18:08, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>>
>> Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
>>> complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
>>> Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
>>> notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
>>>
>>> I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
>>> notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
>>> I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
>>> place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
>>> if that is possible?
>>>
>>> -Andre
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732>
>>>
>> It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
>> platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than it is
>> already.
>>
>> Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
>> course, it's still intermediate):
>>
>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html>
>>
>> 1) Directly in the main green box.
>> 2) In a second sub-green box.
>>
>> Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>> 1) is better.
I like 1 better, too. But it still looks too prominent. We don't want
to scare our users (when only a minority will run into this problem).
Maybe an explanation in the release notes is enough.
> maybe change wording to "Click here for known installation issues"
>
> I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should focus
> on highlighting "installation".
>
> I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
> Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.
Great thanks.
>
>
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Re: Mac release
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>
> Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
>> complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
>> Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
>> notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
>>
>> I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
>> notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
>> I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
>> place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
>> if that is possible?
>>
>> -Andre
>>
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732>
>>
>
> It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
> platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than it is
> already.
>
> Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
> course, it's still intermediate):
>
> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html>
>
> 1) Directly in the main green box.
> 2) In a second sub-green box.
>
> Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.
>
> Marcus
>
> 1) is better.
>
maybe change wording to "Click here for known installation issues"
I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should focus
on highlighting "installation".
I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.
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Re: Mac release
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
> Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
> complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
> Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
> notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
>
> I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
> notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
> I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
> place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
> if that is possible?
>
> -Andre
>
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732
It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than it is
already.
Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
course, it's still intermediate):
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
1) Directly in the main green box.
2) In a second sub-green box.
Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.
Marcus
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