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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com> on 2010/12/04 00:57:34 UTC
[RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Hi everyone,
I'm pleased to report that the vote to accept Wave into the ASF incubator
was overwhelmingly positive.
By my tally, there have been 88 votes over the past 3+ days, including 18
IPMC binding votes, 8 votes by members of the ASF, and no -1 votes. Of those
88 votes, due to a slight process confusion (and an issue of reply-to
settings), 22 votes were only registered on the existing wave-protocol
Google Group.
The 18 binding votes:
Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris A.
Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug
Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende, Mark
Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
The 68 non-binding votes:
a2c, Adirondack, Alain Levesque, Albonobo, Alex North, Andreas Kuckartz,
Andrian Kurniady, Anthony Watkins, Bart Thate, benediktus dwi hari prasetyo,
Bertine van Hövell, Charles Goddard, Chris Harvey, Christopher Brind, Dan
Peterson, Dave Woollard, David Wang, David Westbrook, Davide Carnovale,
Edward J. Yoon, Eelco Hillenius, florent andré, Florian Rohrweck, Francis De
Brabandere, Gamer-Z, Help Earth Foundation,Honza Rameš, Ian Boston, Ian
Roughley,Isabel Drost, Jack Park, James R. Purser, Jeff Forsyth, Jeremy ngl,
John Edstrom, JR Smith, Kevin Lau, Lahiru Gunathilake, Manfred Herrmann,
Mark Kovacevich, Matias Molinas, Matt Richards, Matthew Cua1, Michael
MacFadden, MiCHiLU/Takanao Endoh, Mohammad Nour, Nathanael Abbotts, Noriyo,
Paul Lindner, Petru, Riu6, Sander W G van der Waal, Scott Wilson,
shigechika@gmail.com, Sophia Parafina, Soren Lassen, STenyaK, Tad Glines,
ThomasWrobel, Tish Shute, Vitality, and Yasushi Ando
The primary voting thread (there were a few side threads that sprawled that
aren't linked here):
http://apache.markmail.org/message/v2c4cnewpczdxzny
[ The following Google Group archives the other 22 unofficial, non-binding
votes:
http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol/browse_thread/thread/4fc26d16cde74380
]
The proposal that was approved:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
Looking forward to growing Wave in the Apache way,
-Dan
Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Kevin Lau <ke...@fas.harvard.edu>.
Would it be a good idea to translate this page to other languages? Or
something is more urgent for translation than this? I can try to help.
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm pleased to report that the vote to accept Wave into the ASF incubator
> was overwhelmingly positive.
>
> By my tally, there have been 88 votes over the past 3+ days, including 18
> IPMC binding votes, 8 votes by members of the ASF, and no -1 votes. Of those
> 88 votes, due to a slight process confusion (and an issue of reply-to
> settings), 22 votes were only registered on the existing wave-protocol
> Google Group.
>
> The 18 binding votes:
> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris
> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug
> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende, Mark
> Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
>
> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>
> The 68 non-binding votes:
> a2c, Adirondack, Alain Levesque, Albonobo, Alex North, Andreas Kuckartz,
> Andrian Kurniady, Anthony Watkins, Bart Thate, benediktus dwi hari prasetyo,
> Bertine van Hövell, Charles Goddard, Chris Harvey, Christopher Brind, Dan
> Peterson, Dave Woollard, David Wang, David Westbrook, Davide Carnovale,
> Edward J. Yoon, Eelco Hillenius, florent andré, Florian Rohrweck, Francis De
> Brabandere, Gamer-Z, Help Earth Foundation,Honza Rameš, Ian Boston, Ian
> Roughley,Isabel Drost, Jack Park, James R. Purser, Jeff Forsyth, Jeremy ngl,
> John Edstrom, JR Smith, Kevin Lau, Lahiru Gunathilake, Manfred Herrmann,
> Mark Kovacevich, Matias Molinas, Matt Richards, Matthew Cua1, Michael
> MacFadden, MiCHiLU/Takanao Endoh, Mohammad Nour, Nathanael Abbotts, Noriyo,
> Paul Lindner, Petru, Riu6, Sander W G van der Waal, Scott Wilson,
> shigechika@gmail.com, Sophia Parafina, Soren Lassen, STenyaK, Tad Glines,
> ThomasWrobel, Tish Shute, Vitality, and Yasushi Ando
>
> The primary voting thread (there were a few side threads that sprawled that
> aren't linked here):
> http://apache.markmail.org/message/v2c4cnewpczdxzny
> [ The following Google Group archives the other 22 unofficial, non-binding
> votes:
> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol/browse_thread/thread/4fc26d16cde74380
> ]
>
> The proposal that was approved:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
>
> Looking forward to growing Wave in the Apache way,
> -Dan
>
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
The canonical archives will be at:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wave-dev/
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wave-commits/
(It takes some time to first appear).
As you've noticed, the lists are set up for markmail and mail-archive.com initially, and others often pick them up too.
Cheers,
Brett
On 07/12/2010, at 11:43 AM, Matt Richards wrote:
> Thank you for the information. I know its brand new at this point. Just want
> it for future reference.
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> For wave-dev@incubator.apache.org There is an archive on markmail --
>> http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=list:org.apache.incubator.wave-dev%20order:date-backward
>>
>>
>> <http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=list:org.apache.incubator.wave-dev%20order:date-backward>...
>> but the action is just now moving over to wave-dev, so the google groups
>> archive has more historical context about wave --
>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol/topics
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any web archives for this list?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Brett!
>>>>
>>>> So, let's move discussion over to the wave-dev list, let's see you all
>>>> over there!
>>>>
>>>> If you are subscribed to this list, and want to continue to participate,
>>>> please subscribe to wave-dev, by sending an email to
>>>> wave-dev-subscribe@incubator.apache.org.
>>>>
>>>> In case anyone asks if it is possible to migrate our subscriber list
>>>> over, the answer is unfortunately no, as we cannot legally transfer a
>>>> list of email addresses between organisations.
>>>>
>>>> Upayavira
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 02:09 +1100, "Brett Porter" <br...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> After coordinating with Upayavira, I've gone ahead and created:
>>>>> - wave-dev
>>>>> - wave-commits
>>>>> - wave-private
>>>>>
>>>>> All are free to subscribe to the first two now. Upayavira is the
>>>> initial
>>>>> moderator for all 3 lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> See also: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3269
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Brett
>>>>>
>>>>> On 06/12/2010, at 11:16 PM, Upayavira wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I have the ability to create mailing lists at Apache. I'll
>>>>>> attempt to do that later today so that we can move communication over
>>>> to
>>>>>> its new home ASAP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Upayavira
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:33 -0800, "Michael MacFadden"
>>>>>> <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have volunteered to start the infrastructure set up in the absence
>>>> of
>>>>>>> some of the Googlers on vacation as Soren mentions. Hopefully over
>>>> the
>>>>>>> next few days we'll get some clarity on the actual logistics of
>>>> becoming
>>>>>>> a podling in the incubator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we will likely start a new thread to figure that out. I
>>>> would
>>>>>>> guess that one of the first things we would like to do is to get the
>>>>>>> mailing lists set up so that we can further discuss the organization
>>>> of
>>>>>>> the project on a wave list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am sure the Apache mentors can weigh in here to help us get
>>>> started.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
>>>>>>>> parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends
>>>> on
>>>>>>>> us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Soren
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <
>>>> mrichards@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Now that the Vote has been completed.
>>>>>>>>> What are the next steps?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The 18 binding votes:
>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand
>>>> Delacretaz, Chris
>>>>>>>>>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave
>>>> Johnson, Doug
>>>>>>>>>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano
>>>> Resende,
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams,
>>>> and Upayavira
>>>>>>>>>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
>>>>>>>>>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
>>>>>>>>>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so
>>>> many ASF
>>>>>>>>>> people had voted.
>>>>>>>>>> -Tad
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>> Google Groups
>>>>>>>>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>>> wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>>>>>>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> --Matt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>> wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Brett Porter
>>>>> brett@apache.org
>>>>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>>>>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --Matt
>>>
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>
>
>
> --
> --Matt
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com>.
Thank you for the information. I know its brand new at this point. Just want
it for future reference.
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com> wrote:
> For wave-dev@incubator.apache.org There is an archive on markmail --
> http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=list:org.apache.incubator.wave-dev%20order:date-backward
>
>
> <http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=list:org.apache.incubator.wave-dev%20order:date-backward>...
> but the action is just now moving over to wave-dev, so the google groups
> archive has more historical context about wave --
> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol/topics
>
> -Dan
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there any web archives for this list?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Brett!
>>>
>>> So, let's move discussion over to the wave-dev list, let's see you all
>>> over there!
>>>
>>> If you are subscribed to this list, and want to continue to participate,
>>> please subscribe to wave-dev, by sending an email to
>>> wave-dev-subscribe@incubator.apache.org.
>>>
>>> In case anyone asks if it is possible to migrate our subscriber list
>>> over, the answer is unfortunately no, as we cannot legally transfer a
>>> list of email addresses between organisations.
>>>
>>> Upayavira
>>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 02:09 +1100, "Brett Porter" <br...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > After coordinating with Upayavira, I've gone ahead and created:
>>> > - wave-dev
>>> > - wave-commits
>>> > - wave-private
>>> >
>>> > All are free to subscribe to the first two now. Upayavira is the
>>> initial
>>> > moderator for all 3 lists.
>>> >
>>> > See also: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3269
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Brett
>>> >
>>> > On 06/12/2010, at 11:16 PM, Upayavira wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > Actually, I have the ability to create mailing lists at Apache. I'll
>>> > > attempt to do that later today so that we can move communication over
>>> to
>>> > > its new home ASAP.
>>> > >
>>> > > Upayavira
>>> > >
>>> > > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:33 -0800, "Michael MacFadden"
>>> > > <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> All,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I have volunteered to start the infrastructure set up in the absence
>>> of
>>> > >> some of the Googlers on vacation as Soren mentions. Hopefully over
>>> the
>>> > >> next few days we'll get some clarity on the actual logistics of
>>> becoming
>>> > >> a podling in the incubator.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I think we will likely start a new thread to figure that out. I
>>> would
>>> > >> guess that one of the first things we would like to do is to get the
>>> > >> mailing lists set up so that we can further discuss the organization
>>> of
>>> > >> the project on a wave list.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I am sure the Apache mentors can weigh in here to help us get
>>> started.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> ~Michael
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
>>> > >>> parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends
>>> on
>>> > >>> us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Soren
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <
>>> mrichards@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>> Now that the Vote has been completed.
>>> > >>>> What are the next steps?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> The 18 binding votes:
>>> > >>>>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand
>>> Delacretaz, Chris
>>> > >>>>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave
>>> Johnson, Doug
>>> > >>>>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano
>>> Resende,
>>> > >>>>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams,
>>> and Upayavira
>>> > >>>>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
>>> > >>>>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
>>> > >>>>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so
>>> many ASF
>>> > >>>>> people had voted.
>>> > >>>>> -Tad
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> --
>>> > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the
>>> Google Groups
>>> > >>>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
>>> > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>> wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
>>> > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>> > >>>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
>>> .
>>> > >>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>> > >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> --
>>> > >>>> --Matt
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> --
>>> > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups
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>>> wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>> > >>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
>>> .
>>> > >>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>> > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
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>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Brett Porter
>>> > brett@apache.org
>>> > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>>> > http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --Matt
>>
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>
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>.
For wave-dev@incubator.apache.org There is an archive on markmail --
http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=list:org.apache.incubator.wave-dev%20order:date-backward
<http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=list:org.apache.incubator.wave-dev%20order:date-backward>...
but the action is just now moving over to wave-dev, so the google groups
archive has more historical context about wave --
http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol/topics
-Dan
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are there any web archives for this list?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Brett!
>>
>> So, let's move discussion over to the wave-dev list, let's see you all
>> over there!
>>
>> If you are subscribed to this list, and want to continue to participate,
>> please subscribe to wave-dev, by sending an email to
>> wave-dev-subscribe@incubator.apache.org.
>>
>> In case anyone asks if it is possible to migrate our subscriber list
>> over, the answer is unfortunately no, as we cannot legally transfer a
>> list of email addresses between organisations.
>>
>> Upayavira
>>
>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 02:09 +1100, "Brett Porter" <br...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > After coordinating with Upayavira, I've gone ahead and created:
>> > - wave-dev
>> > - wave-commits
>> > - wave-private
>> >
>> > All are free to subscribe to the first two now. Upayavira is the initial
>> > moderator for all 3 lists.
>> >
>> > See also: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3269
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Brett
>> >
>> > On 06/12/2010, at 11:16 PM, Upayavira wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Actually, I have the ability to create mailing lists at Apache. I'll
>> > > attempt to do that later today so that we can move communication over
>> to
>> > > its new home ASAP.
>> > >
>> > > Upayavira
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:33 -0800, "Michael MacFadden"
>> > > <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> All,
>> > >>
>> > >> I have volunteered to start the infrastructure set up in the absence
>> of
>> > >> some of the Googlers on vacation as Soren mentions. Hopefully over
>> the
>> > >> next few days we'll get some clarity on the actual logistics of
>> becoming
>> > >> a podling in the incubator.
>> > >>
>> > >> I think we will likely start a new thread to figure that out. I
>> would
>> > >> guess that one of the first things we would like to do is to get the
>> > >> mailing lists set up so that we can further discuss the organization
>> of
>> > >> the project on a wave list.
>> > >>
>> > >> I am sure the Apache mentors can weigh in here to help us get
>> started.
>> > >>
>> > >> ~Michael
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
>> > >>>
>> > >>> FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
>> > >>> parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends
>> on
>> > >>> us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Soren
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>> Now that the Vote has been completed.
>> > >>>> What are the next steps?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> The 18 binding votes:
>> > >>>>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand
>> Delacretaz, Chris
>> > >>>>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson,
>> Doug
>> > >>>>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano
>> Resende,
>> > >>>>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and
>> Upayavira
>> > >>>>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
>> > >>>>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
>> > >>>>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many
>> ASF
>> > >>>>> people had voted.
>> > >>>>> -Tad
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> --
>> > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> Groups
>> > >>>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
>> > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to
>> wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
>> > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> > >>>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
>> .
>> > >>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>> > >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>> --Matt
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> Groups
>> > >>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
>> > >>>> To post to this group, send email to
>> wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
>> > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> > >>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
>> .
>> > >>>> For more options, visit this group at
>> > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> Groups
>> > >> "Wave Protocol" group.
>> > >> To post to this group, send email to wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> > >> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
>> .
>> > >> For more options, visit this group at
>> > >> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Brett Porter
>> > brett@apache.org
>> > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>> > http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>> >
>>
>> --
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>> To post to this group, send email to wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
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>> .
>> For more options, visit this group at
>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --Matt
>
> --
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>
Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com>.
Are there any web archives for this list?
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> Thanks Brett!
>
> So, let's move discussion over to the wave-dev list, let's see you all
> over there!
>
> If you are subscribed to this list, and want to continue to participate,
> please subscribe to wave-dev, by sending an email to
> wave-dev-subscribe@incubator.apache.org.
>
> In case anyone asks if it is possible to migrate our subscriber list
> over, the answer is unfortunately no, as we cannot legally transfer a
> list of email addresses between organisations.
>
> Upayavira
>
> On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 02:09 +1100, "Brett Porter" <br...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > After coordinating with Upayavira, I've gone ahead and created:
> > - wave-dev
> > - wave-commits
> > - wave-private
> >
> > All are free to subscribe to the first two now. Upayavira is the initial
> > moderator for all 3 lists.
> >
> > See also: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3269
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Brett
> >
> > On 06/12/2010, at 11:16 PM, Upayavira wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Actually, I have the ability to create mailing lists at Apache. I'll
> > > attempt to do that later today so that we can move communication over
> to
> > > its new home ASAP.
> > >
> > > Upayavira
> > >
> > > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:33 -0800, "Michael MacFadden"
> > > <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> All,
> > >>
> > >> I have volunteered to start the infrastructure set up in the absence
> of
> > >> some of the Googlers on vacation as Soren mentions. Hopefully over
> the
> > >> next few days we'll get some clarity on the actual logistics of
> becoming
> > >> a podling in the incubator.
> > >>
> > >> I think we will likely start a new thread to figure that out. I would
> > >> guess that one of the first things we would like to do is to get the
> > >> mailing lists set up so that we can further discuss the organization
> of
> > >> the project on a wave list.
> > >>
> > >> I am sure the Apache mentors can weigh in here to help us get started.
> > >>
> > >> ~Michael
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
> > >>>
> > >>> FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
> > >>> parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends
> on
> > >>> us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
> > >>>
> > >>> Soren
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>> Now that the Vote has been completed.
> > >>>> What are the next steps?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The 18 binding votes:
> > >>>>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz,
> Chris
> > >>>>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson,
> Doug
> > >>>>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano
> Resende,
> > >>>>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and
> Upayavira
> > >>>>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
> > >>>>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
> > >>>>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many
> ASF
> > >>>>> people had voted.
> > >>>>> -Tad
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups
> > >>>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
> > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to
> wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
> > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> > >>>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
> .
> > >>>>> For more options, visit this group at
> > >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> --Matt
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups
> > >>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
> > >>>> To post to this group, send email to wave-protocol@googlegroups.com
> .
> > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> > >>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
> .
> > >>>> For more options, visit this group at
> > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> --
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> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
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> .
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> > >> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Brett Porter
> > brett@apache.org
> > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> > http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
> --
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>
>
--
--Matt
Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
Thanks Brett!
So, let's move discussion over to the wave-dev list, let's see you all
over there!
If you are subscribed to this list, and want to continue to participate,
please subscribe to wave-dev, by sending an email to
wave-dev-subscribe@incubator.apache.org.
In case anyone asks if it is possible to migrate our subscriber list
over, the answer is unfortunately no, as we cannot legally transfer a
list of email addresses between organisations.
Upayavira
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 02:09 +1100, "Brett Porter" <br...@apache.org>
wrote:
> After coordinating with Upayavira, I've gone ahead and created:
> - wave-dev
> - wave-commits
> - wave-private
>
> All are free to subscribe to the first two now. Upayavira is the initial
> moderator for all 3 lists.
>
> See also: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3269
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
> On 06/12/2010, at 11:16 PM, Upayavira wrote:
>
> >
> > Actually, I have the ability to create mailing lists at Apache. I'll
> > attempt to do that later today so that we can move communication over to
> > its new home ASAP.
> >
> > Upayavira
> >
> > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:33 -0800, "Michael MacFadden"
> > <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I have volunteered to start the infrastructure set up in the absence of
> >> some of the Googlers on vacation as Soren mentions. Hopefully over the
> >> next few days we'll get some clarity on the actual logistics of becoming
> >> a podling in the incubator.
> >>
> >> I think we will likely start a new thread to figure that out. I would
> >> guess that one of the first things we would like to do is to get the
> >> mailing lists set up so that we can further discuss the organization of
> >> the project on a wave list.
> >>
> >> I am sure the Apache mentors can weigh in here to help us get started.
> >>
> >> ~Michael
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
> >>>
> >>> FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
> >>> parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends on
> >>> us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
> >>>
> >>> Soren
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Now that the Vote has been completed.
> >>>> What are the next steps?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The 18 binding votes:
> >>>>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris
> >>>>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug
> >>>>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende,
> >>>>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
> >>>>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
> >>>>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
> >>>>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF
> >>>>> people had voted.
> >>>>> -Tad
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> >>>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >>>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
> >>>>> For more options, visit this group at
> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> --Matt
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> >>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
> >>>> To post to this group, send email to wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
> >>>> For more options, visit this group at
> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
> >> For more options, visit this group at
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
> >>
> >>
> >
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> >
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by David Wang <zd...@google.com>.
I have filed my ICLA.
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com> wrote:
>
> > Disclaimer: The private mailing list will rarely be used (typically for
> > discussing security issues and approving new committers) and access is
> only
> > approved for committers.
>
> Access to the private list is restricted to the projects PPMC members and
> any ASF member afaik.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Leif
> >
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org>.
On Dec 6, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com> wrote:
> Disclaimer: The private mailing list will rarely be used (typically for
> discussing security issues and approving new committers) and access is only
> approved for committers.
Access to the private list is restricted to the projects PPMC members and any ASF member afaik.
Cheers,
-- Leif
>
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>.
Disclaimer: The private mailing list will rarely be used (typically for
discussing security issues and approving new committers) and access is only
approved for committers.
David, you can use the same mechanism as "sending an email to
wave-dev-subscribe@incubator.apache.org" (but make it wave-private instead
of wave-dev).
-Dan
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:54 PM, David Wang <zd...@google.com> wrote:
> How does one subscribe to the wave-private mailing list? The incubator
> guide (http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html) seemed to suggest
> making the initial committers part of the PPMC and discuss confidential
> matters on wave-private.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> After coordinating with Upayavira, I've gone ahead and created:
>> - wave-dev
>> - wave-commits
>> - wave-private
>
>
>> All are free to subscribe to the first two now. Upayavira is the initial
>> moderator for all 3 lists.
>>
>> See also: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3269
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brett
>>
>> On 06/12/2010, at 11:16 PM, Upayavira wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Actually, I have the ability to create mailing lists at Apache. I'll
>> > attempt to do that later today so that we can move communication over to
>> > its new home ASAP.
>> >
>> > Upayavira
>> >
>> > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:33 -0800, "Michael MacFadden"
>> > <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> I have volunteered to start the infrastructure set up in the absence of
>> >> some of the Googlers on vacation as Soren mentions. Hopefully over the
>> >> next few days we'll get some clarity on the actual logistics of
>> becoming
>> >> a podling in the incubator.
>> >>
>> >> I think we will likely start a new thread to figure that out. I would
>> >> guess that one of the first things we would like to do is to get the
>> >> mailing lists set up so that we can further discuss the organization of
>> >> the project on a wave list.
>> >>
>> >> I am sure the Apache mentors can weigh in here to help us get started.
>> >>
>> >> ~Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
>> >>>
>> >>> FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
>> >>> parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends on
>> >>> us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
>> >>>
>> >>> Soren
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>> Now that the Vote has been completed.
>> >>>> What are the next steps?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The 18 binding votes:
>> >>>>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz,
>> Chris
>> >>>>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson,
>> Doug
>> >>>>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano
>> Resende,
>> >>>>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and
>> Upayavira
>> >>>>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
>> >>>>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
>> >>>>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many
>> ASF
>> >>>>> people had voted.
>> >>>>> -Tad
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> Groups
>> >>>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
>> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to wave-protocol@googlegroups.com
>> .
>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> >>>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
>> .
>> >>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> --Matt
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> Groups
>> >>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
>> >>>> To post to this group, send email to wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> >>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
>> .
>> >>>> For more options, visit this group at
>> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by James Purser <ja...@gmail.com>.
Send a message to
wave-private-subscribe@incubator.apache.org
James
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:54 AM, David Wang <zd...@google.com> wrote:
> How does one subscribe to the wave-private mailing list? The incubator
> guide
> (http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html) seemed to suggest making
> the
> initial committers part of the PPMC and discuss confidential matters
> on wave-private.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > After coordinating with Upayavira, I've gone ahead and created:
> > - wave-dev
> > - wave-commits
> > - wave-private
>
>
> > All are free to subscribe to the first two now. Upayavira is the initial
> > moderator for all 3 lists.
> >
> > See also: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3269
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Brett
> >
> > On 06/12/2010, at 11:16 PM, Upayavira wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Actually, I have the ability to create mailing lists at Apache. I'll
> > > attempt to do that later today so that we can move communication over
> to
> > > its new home ASAP.
> > >
> > > Upayavira
> > >
> > > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:33 -0800, "Michael MacFadden"
> > > <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> All,
> > >>
> > >> I have volunteered to start the infrastructure set up in the absence
> of
> > >> some of the Googlers on vacation as Soren mentions. Hopefully over
> the
> > >> next few days we'll get some clarity on the actual logistics of
> becoming
> > >> a podling in the incubator.
> > >>
> > >> I think we will likely start a new thread to figure that out. I would
> > >> guess that one of the first things we would like to do is to get the
> > >> mailing lists set up so that we can further discuss the organization
> of
> > >> the project on a wave list.
> > >>
> > >> I am sure the Apache mentors can weigh in here to help us get started.
> > >>
> > >> ~Michael
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
> > >>>
> > >>> FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
> > >>> parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends
> on
> > >>> us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
> > >>>
> > >>> Soren
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>> Now that the Vote has been completed.
> > >>>> What are the next steps?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The 18 binding votes:
> > >>>>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz,
> > Chris
> > >>>>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson,
> > Doug
> > >>>>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano
> > Resende,
> > >>>>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and
> > Upayavira
> > >>>>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
> > >>>>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
> > >>>>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many
> > ASF
> > >>>>> people had voted.
> > >>>>> -Tad
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> > Groups
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> > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to
> wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
> > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> > >>>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
> <wa...@googlegroups.com>
> >
> > .
> > >>>>> For more options, visit this group at
> > >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> --Matt
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
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> >
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> > >>>>
> > >>>
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> <wa...@googlegroups.com>
> >
> > .
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> > >>
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>
Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by David Wang <zd...@google.com>.
How does one subscribe to the wave-private mailing list? The incubator guide
(http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html) seemed to suggest making the
initial committers part of the PPMC and discuss confidential matters
on wave-private.
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> After coordinating with Upayavira, I've gone ahead and created:
> - wave-dev
> - wave-commits
> - wave-private
> All are free to subscribe to the first two now. Upayavira is the initial
> moderator for all 3 lists.
>
> See also: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3269
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
> On 06/12/2010, at 11:16 PM, Upayavira wrote:
>
> >
> > Actually, I have the ability to create mailing lists at Apache. I'll
> > attempt to do that later today so that we can move communication over to
> > its new home ASAP.
> >
> > Upayavira
> >
> > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:33 -0800, "Michael MacFadden"
> > <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I have volunteered to start the infrastructure set up in the absence of
> >> some of the Googlers on vacation as Soren mentions. Hopefully over the
> >> next few days we'll get some clarity on the actual logistics of becoming
> >> a podling in the incubator.
> >>
> >> I think we will likely start a new thread to figure that out. I would
> >> guess that one of the first things we would like to do is to get the
> >> mailing lists set up so that we can further discuss the organization of
> >> the project on a wave list.
> >>
> >> I am sure the Apache mentors can weigh in here to help us get started.
> >>
> >> ~Michael
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
> >>>
> >>> FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
> >>> parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends on
> >>> us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
> >>>
> >>> Soren
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> Now that the Vote has been completed.
> >>>> What are the next steps?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The 18 binding votes:
> >>>>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz,
> Chris
> >>>>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson,
> Doug
> >>>>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano
> Resende,
> >>>>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and
> Upayavira
> >>>>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
> >>>>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
> >>>>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many
> ASF
> >>>>> people had voted.
> >>>>> -Tad
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups
> >>>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >>>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<wa...@googlegroups.com>
> .
> >>>>> For more options, visit this group at
> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> --Matt
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> .
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> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
> >>>>
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
After coordinating with Upayavira, I've gone ahead and created:
- wave-dev
- wave-commits
- wave-private
All are free to subscribe to the first two now. Upayavira is the initial moderator for all 3 lists.
See also: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3269
Cheers,
Brett
On 06/12/2010, at 11:16 PM, Upayavira wrote:
>
> Actually, I have the ability to create mailing lists at Apache. I'll
> attempt to do that later today so that we can move communication over to
> its new home ASAP.
>
> Upayavira
>
> On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:33 -0800, "Michael MacFadden"
> <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I have volunteered to start the infrastructure set up in the absence of
>> some of the Googlers on vacation as Soren mentions. Hopefully over the
>> next few days we'll get some clarity on the actual logistics of becoming
>> a podling in the incubator.
>>
>> I think we will likely start a new thread to figure that out. I would
>> guess that one of the first things we would like to do is to get the
>> mailing lists set up so that we can further discuss the organization of
>> the project on a wave list.
>>
>> I am sure the Apache mentors can weigh in here to help us get started.
>>
>> ~Michael
>>
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
>>
>>> Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
>>>
>>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
>>>
>>> FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
>>> parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends on
>>> us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
>>>
>>> Soren
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Now that the Vote has been completed.
>>>> What are the next steps?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 18 binding votes:
>>>>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris
>>>>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug
>>>>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende,
>>>>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
>>>>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
>>>>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
>>>>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF
>>>>> people had voted.
>>>>> -Tad
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>>>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
>>>>> To post to this group, send email to wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --Matt
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
Actually, I have the ability to create mailing lists at Apache. I'll
attempt to do that later today so that we can move communication over to
its new home ASAP.
Upayavira
On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:33 -0800, "Michael MacFadden"
<mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> I have volunteered to start the infrastructure set up in the absence of
> some of the Googlers on vacation as Soren mentions. Hopefully over the
> next few days we'll get some clarity on the actual logistics of becoming
> a podling in the incubator.
>
> I think we will likely start a new thread to figure that out. I would
> guess that one of the first things we would like to do is to get the
> mailing lists set up so that we can further discuss the organization of
> the project on a wave list.
>
> I am sure the Apache mentors can weigh in here to help us get started.
>
> ~Michael
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
>
> > Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
> >
> > http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
> >
> > FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
> > parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends on
> > us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
> >
> > Soren
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Now that the Vote has been completed.
> >> What are the next steps?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> The 18 binding votes:
> >>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris
> >>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug
> >>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende,
> >>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
> >>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
> >>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
> >>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
> >>>
> >>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF
> >>> people had voted.
> >>> -Tad
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> >>> "Wave Protocol" group.
> >>> To post to this group, send email to wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
> >>> For more options, visit this group at
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> --Matt
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Michael MacFadden <mi...@gmail.com>.
All,
I have volunteered to start the infrastructure set up in the absence of some of the Googlers on vacation as Soren mentions. Hopefully over the next few days we'll get some clarity on the actual logistics of becoming a podling in the incubator.
I think we will likely start a new thread to figure that out. I would guess that one of the first things we would like to do is to get the mailing lists set up so that we can further discuss the organization of the project on a wave list.
I am sure the Apache mentors can weigh in here to help us get started.
~Michael
On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Soren Lassen wrote:
> Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
>
> http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
>
> FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
> parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends on
> us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
>
> Soren
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Now that the Vote has been completed.
>> What are the next steps?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
>>>>
>>>> The 18 binding votes:
>>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris
>>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug
>>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende,
>>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
>>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
>>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
>>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>>>
>>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF
>>> people had voted.
>>> -Tad
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>>> "Wave Protocol" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to wave-protocol@googlegroups.com.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>> wave-protocol+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --Matt
>>
>> --
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Soren Lassen <so...@google.com>.
Michael MacFadden has written some ideas here:
http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/apache-incubator-roadmap
FYI, several of us on the Google Wave team are away on vacations in
parts of the December-January time period, so anything that depends on
us may move a bit slow for the next month or so.
Soren
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now that the Vote has been completed.
> What are the next steps?
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
>>>
>>> The 18 binding votes:
>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris
>>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug
>>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende,
>>> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
>>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>>
>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF
>> people had voted.
>> -Tad
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Matt Richards <mr...@gmail.com>.
Now that the Vote has been completed.
What are the next steps?
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
>
> The 18 binding votes:
>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris
>> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug
>> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende, Mark
>> Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
>>
>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
>> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>>
>
> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF
> people had voted.
>
> -Tad
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk>.
On 4 Dec 2010, at 22:43, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Ian, Isabel (and anyone else I missed), sorry about that
Dan, np, just wanted to make sure you got all the credit due.
Ian
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com>.
My ICLA is signed and on file
unlistedclas<http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html#unlistedclas>
.
-Tad
Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
On Dec 4, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
>>
> Ian, Isabel (and anyone else I missed), sorry about that -- I manually
> compared the list of voters against
> http://apache.org/foundation/members.html
> (and http://incubator.apache.org/whoweare.html )
>
> Ralph, your list looks more up to date it seems. To avoid confusion in the
> future, I imagine the ASF members page I found could be filled in from the
> same list as the committer-index page?
members.html is maintained by the members themselves. Not all members know to do that or simply don't add their information. At one point in the recent past it was discussed having members.html derive from that but since it contains more information I believe it was decided to leave it alone. Instead, the committers page I referenced was moved from Jim's user site to the main ASF site at the link I posted.
committee-info.txt, from which whoweare.html gets its information, should contain an accurate and up-to-date list of all PMC members on the various projects at the ASF. However, it has gotten out of synch from time to time.
I believe the link I gave you derives from the ldap permissions that govern what people can get to in subversion.
>
> One question related to incubator policy: are ASF member votes meant to be
> officially binding for incubator acceptance or is it explicitly restricted
> to the IPMC? Paul and I couldn't find a clear answer to that. There is a
> mention that the IPMC is responsible for incubator projects, so I could see
> it both ways. It wasn't an issue in this case, just wondering what the
> policy is for any future potential incubator projects.
ASF members can participate in any ASF project by subscribing to the mailing lists and taking part in the community and PMC. Their votes are not binding until the are officially part of the PMC. This is also true of the incubator. However, unlike other projects, all a member has to do to become part of the incubator PMC is to request to be added. So incubator votes cast by ASF members who aren't on the PMC are non-binding.
Ralph
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>.
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>wrote:
>
> On Dec 4, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
> >
> > On Dec 4, 2010, at 4:39 AM, Ian Boston wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 4 Dec 2010, at 01:50, Tad Glines wrote:
> >>
> >>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> >>> The 18 binding votes:
> >>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz,
> Chris A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug
> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende,
> Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
> >>>
> >>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
> >>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
> >>>
> >>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF
> people had voted.
> >>
> >> Congrats.... lots of support from all corners.
> >>
> >> Just incase it is a record, long may it stand.... but it may be even
> more than that, I see Paul Lindner name in the list of non members, I
> thought as Shindig PMC Chair he was a member, with me that makes 10, there
> may be others. ? (well done, I thought it was painful counting just ten on a
> release votes)
> >
> > PMC chairs are not automatically ASF members. The easy way to tell is to
> look at http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html. If the person's
> name is in bold then they are an ASF member. It appears Paul is not.
>
> However, I do see Isabel Drost, who is a member, in the list. So your
> assertion that there are probably more is correct.
>
>
Ian, Isabel (and anyone else I missed), sorry about that -- I manually
compared the list of voters against
http://apache.org/foundation/members.html
(and http://incubator.apache.org/whoweare.html )
Ralph, your list looks more up to date it seems. To avoid confusion in the
future, I imagine the ASF members page I found could be filled in from the
same list as the committer-index page?
One question related to incubator policy: are ASF member votes meant to be
officially binding for incubator acceptance or is it explicitly restricted
to the IPMC? Paul and I couldn't find a clear answer to that. There is a
mention that the IPMC is responsible for incubator projects, so I could see
it both ways. It wasn't an issue in this case, just wondering what the
policy is for any future potential incubator projects.
-Dan
Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
On Dec 4, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
> On Dec 4, 2010, at 4:39 AM, Ian Boston wrote:
>
>>
>> On 4 Dec 2010, at 01:50, Tad Glines wrote:
>>
>>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
>>> The 18 binding votes:
>>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende, Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
>>>
>>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
>>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>>>
>>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF people had voted.
>>
>> Congrats.... lots of support from all corners.
>>
>> Just incase it is a record, long may it stand.... but it may be even more than that, I see Paul Lindner name in the list of non members, I thought as Shindig PMC Chair he was a member, with me that makes 10, there may be others. ? (well done, I thought it was painful counting just ten on a release votes)
>
> PMC chairs are not automatically ASF members. The easy way to tell is to look at http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html. If the person's name is in bold then they are an ASF member. It appears Paul is not.
However, I do see Isabel Drost, who is a member, in the list. So your assertion that there are probably more is correct.
Ralph
Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
On Dec 4, 2010, at 4:39 AM, Ian Boston wrote:
>
> On 4 Dec 2010, at 01:50, Tad Glines wrote:
>
>> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
>> The 18 binding votes:
>> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende, Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
>>
>> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
>> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>>
>> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF people had voted.
>
> Congrats.... lots of support from all corners.
>
> Just incase it is a record, long may it stand.... but it may be even more than that, I see Paul Lindner name in the list of non members, I thought as Shindig PMC Chair he was a member, with me that makes 10, there may be others. ? (well done, I thought it was painful counting just ten on a release votes)
PMC chairs are not automatically ASF members. The easy way to tell is to look at http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html. If the person's name is in bold then they are an ASF member. It appears Paul is not.
Ralph
Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk>.
On 4 Dec 2010, at 01:50, Tad Glines wrote:
> 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> The 18 binding votes:
> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende, Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
>
> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>
> Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF people had voted.
Congrats.... lots of support from all corners.
Just incase it is a record, long may it stand.... but it may be even more than that, I see Paul Lindner name in the list of non members, I thought as Shindig PMC Chair he was a member, with me that makes 10, there may be others. ? (well done, I thought it was painful counting just ten on a release votes)
>
> -Tad
>
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Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Tad Glines <ta...@gmail.com>.
2010/12/3 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> The 18 binding votes:
> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris
> A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug
> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende, Mark
> Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
>
> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>
Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF
people had voted.
-Tad
Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Missed the actual vote... Congratulations to fellow wavers!
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2010/12/4 Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm pleased to report that the vote to accept Wave into the ASF incubator
> was overwhelmingly positive.
>
> By my tally, there have been 88 votes over the past 3+ days, including 18
> IPMC binding votes, 8 votes by members of the ASF, and no -1 votes. Of
> those
> 88 votes, due to a slight process confusion (and an issue of reply-to
> settings), 22 votes were only registered on the existing wave-protocol
> Google Group.
>
> The 18 binding votes:
> Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris A.
> Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug
> Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende,
> Mark
> Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira
>
> The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members:
> Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas
> Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton
>
> The 68 non-binding votes:
> a2c, Adirondack, Alain Levesque, Albonobo, Alex North, Andreas Kuckartz,
> Andrian Kurniady, Anthony Watkins, Bart Thate, benediktus dwi hari
> prasetyo,
> Bertine van Hövell, Charles Goddard, Chris Harvey, Christopher Brind, Dan
> Peterson, Dave Woollard, David Wang, David Westbrook, Davide Carnovale,
> Edward J. Yoon, Eelco Hillenius, florent andré, Florian Rohrweck, Francis
> De
> Brabandere, Gamer-Z, Help Earth Foundation,Honza Rameš, Ian Boston, Ian
> Roughley,Isabel Drost, Jack Park, James R. Purser, Jeff Forsyth, Jeremy
> ngl,
> John Edstrom, JR Smith, Kevin Lau, Lahiru Gunathilake, Manfred Herrmann,
> Mark Kovacevich, Matias Molinas, Matt Richards, Matthew Cua1, Michael
> MacFadden, MiCHiLU/Takanao Endoh, Mohammad Nour, Nathanael Abbotts, Noriyo,
> Paul Lindner, Petru, Riu6, Sander W G van der Waal, Scott Wilson,
> shigechika@gmail.com, Sophia Parafina, Soren Lassen, STenyaK, Tad Glines,
> ThomasWrobel, Tish Shute, Vitality, and Yasushi Ando
>
> The primary voting thread (there were a few side threads that sprawled that
> aren't linked here):
> http://apache.markmail.org/message/v2c4cnewpczdxzny
> [ The following Google Group archives the other 22 unofficial, non-binding
> votes:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol/browse_thread/thread/4fc26d16cde74380
> ]
>
> The proposal that was approved:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
>
> Looking forward to growing Wave in the Apache way,
> -Dan
>
RE: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Welcome, and best of luck. :-)
--- Noel
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