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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com> on 2010/10/18 21:12:59 UTC
Ready to Graduate?
Please evaluate the status of your project with respect to graduation. Why,
for example, are Thrift and JSPWiki not yet ready to fly? What about Ace?
Others?
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Re: Ready to Graduate?
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Please evaluate the status of your project with respect to graduation. Why,
> for example, are Thrift and JSPWiki not yet ready to fly? What about Ace?
> Others?
FYI, the Aries project is actively discussing graduation.
The Wink project discussed graduation last month. I hope to see the Wink community moving towards graduation in the not too distant future.
I have made repeated attempts to have the Imperius community evaluate their Incubator status and either make a concerted effort towards graduation or decide to end their incubation. I would like to see this issue resolved by their next board report (3 months time). Comments from the general Incubator community are welcome.
--kevan
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Re: Ready to Graduate?
Posted by Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>.
Noel, the thrift graduation vote happened right here on this list
over the past week or two. Please pass the resolution onto the
board in this month's report.
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> Please evaluate the status of your project with respect to graduation. Why,
> for example, are Thrift and JSPWiki not yet ready to fly? What about Ace?
> Others?
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RE: Ready to Graduate?
Posted by Scott Golightly <sc...@hotmail.com>.
I would like to see the project graduate and continue to provide samples to
developers to understand how to do interoperability. I like the new
direction of smaller samples that should make it easier to understand the
key parts of creating interoperable web services. Having said that I would
have to say that I probably won't have time to do anything until
mid-November towards furthering that goal.
Scott Golightly
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From: Kamaljit Bath [mailto:Kamaljit.Bath@microsoft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:00 AM
To: stonehenge-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: FW: Ready to Graduate?
Forwarding to the Stonehenge Developer mailing list.
Folks,
I think we are at a decision point on Stonehenge's current mission. We have
achieved quite a bit together over the past 2 years and provided valuable
evidence of interoperability based on WS-* specifications across multiple
platforms. We have successfully released our code for 2 milestones and added
important features - all of which provided important learnings for
developers trying to do the same, which have been documented on our Wiki
page.
Moving forward, we need to decide if we should ask for graduation and
understand what needs to be done to achieve that or decide to suspend the
effort for now, archive all the current assets and then pick it up later, if
needed for example to transition this work over for what makes sense for the
new cloud computing environment.
I will like to hear opinions from everyone first and then may be start a
vote to decide the strategy. So please use this thread to state your
thoughts on how we should move forward.
Thanks,
kamal
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From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:noel@devtech.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 12:13 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Ready to Graduate?
Please evaluate the status of your project with respect to graduation. Why,
for example, are Thrift and JSPWiki not yet ready to fly? What about Ace?
Others?
--- Noel
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FW: Ready to Graduate?
Posted by Kamaljit Bath <Ka...@microsoft.com>.
Forwarding to the Stonehenge Developer mailing list.
Folks,
I think we are at a decision point on Stonehenge's current mission. We have achieved quite a bit together over the past 2 years and provided valuable evidence of interoperability based on WS-* specifications across multiple platforms. We have successfully released our code for 2 milestones and added important features - all of which provided important learnings for developers trying to do the same, which have been documented on our Wiki page.
Moving forward, we need to decide if we should ask for graduation and understand what needs to be done to achieve that or decide to suspend the effort for now, archive all the current assets and then pick it up later, if needed for example to transition this work over for what makes sense for the new cloud computing environment.
I will like to hear opinions from everyone first and then may be start a vote to decide the strategy. So please use this thread to state your thoughts on how we should move forward.
Thanks,
kamal
-----Original Message-----
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:noel@devtech.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 12:13 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Ready to Graduate?
Please evaluate the status of your project with respect to graduation. Why, for example, are Thrift and JSPWiki not yet ready to fly? What about Ace?
Others?
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Re: Ready to Graduate?
Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
On 18 Oct 2010, at 21:12 , Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Please evaluate the status of your project with respect to graduation. Why,
> for example, are Thrift and JSPWiki not yet ready to fly? What about Ace?
ACE is still working towards a release. We want to demonstrate we can do that first.
Greetings, Marcel
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Re: Ready to Graduate?
Posted by Janne Jalkanen <Ja...@ecyrd.com>.
JSPWiki has lost a massive amount of steam in the last year or so due to committers lives interfering with contributions. No known cure exists for life, unfortunately.
Simply put, I don't think anyone has the capacity right now to do the graduation. I do not know whether the situation will change. We have discussed this among ourselves, but have no real conclusions.
Code-wise the only real showstopper is actually making a release. There's still some trickle of contributions coming in, but they're mostly only for the non-Apache releases we did a long time ago.
Advice useful.
/Janne
On Oct 18, 2010, at 22:12 , Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Please evaluate the status of your project with respect to graduation. Why,
> for example, are Thrift and JSPWiki not yet ready to fly? What about Ace?
> Others?
>
> --- Noel
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Re: Ready to Graduate?
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> Please evaluate the status of your project with respect to graduation. Why,
> for example, are Thrift and JSPWiki not yet ready to fly? What about Ace?
> Others?
The graduation vote for Thrift passed:
http://markmail.org/message/ylxik4psqhlk5yec
Niall
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Re: Ready to Graduate?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> Please evaluate the status of your project with respect to graduation. Why,
> for example, are Thrift and JSPWiki not yet ready to fly? What about Ace?
> Others?
>
PhotArk have discussed graduation recently. Other then having a small
but active community of independent committers, it seems ready. In the
mean time, it's releasing often, very responsiveness and encouraging
to contributors, etc. Hopefully we will be recruiting couple more
committers and will be ready soon.
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Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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