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Posted to dev@directory.apache.org by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com> on 2015/01/08 08:49:41 UTC
[Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Hi guys,
following a discussion we have had on the dev list regarding the support
of Java 6 and the strain it puts on some of the maven dependencies we
are using, here is a proposal to stop supporting Java 6 and to only
support Java 7 & 8 from now on.
Keep in mind that Java 6 is not anymore supported by Oracle (except for
paying customers) since feb 2013, and Java 7 is out for now 3 years.
So let's vote :
[ ] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7
from now on
[ ] +/- 0 : I don't mind/ no strong opinion
[ ] -1 no, we should keep going and adapt to support Java 6
Many thanks !
Result was [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Ok, I'm closing this vote with 8 +1 :
Colm,
Felix,
Kiran,
Lucas,
Pierre,
Shawn,
Stefan
and me.
Colm, Pierre, although I was in agreement with your suggestion, the fact
is that we don't anymore support Java 6 as a running JVM for ApacheDS
(Stefan has tested it and many tests are failing).
We will then switch to Java 7+ only for ApacheDS and teh other projects.
Many thanks !
Re: [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Felix Knecht <fe...@apache.org>.
+1
On 01/08/2015 08:49 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> following a discussion we have had on the dev list regarding the support
> of Java 6 and the strain it puts on some of the maven dependencies we
> are using, here is a proposal to stop supporting Java 6 and to only
> support Java 7 & 8 from now on.
>
> Keep in mind that Java 6 is not anymore supported by Oracle (except for
> paying customers) since feb 2013, and Java 7 is out for now 3 years.
>
> So let's vote :
>
> [ ] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7
> from now on
> [ ] +/- 0 : I don't mind/ no strong opinion
> [ ] -1 no, we should keep going and adapt to support Java 6
>
> Many thanks !
>
Re: [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Lucas Theisen <lu...@pastdev.com>.
+1 for sure.
On Jan 8, 2015 9:01 AM, "Shawn McKinney" <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 (Fortress code has been Java 7 dependent for a couple of years)
>
> On 01/08/2015 03:39 AM, Colm O hEigeartaigh wrote:
> > +1. I'd suggest though releasing one more version supporting JDK 1.6 to
> allow users time to upgrade.
> >
> > Colm.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > [X] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java
> 7from now on
> >
> > This will be effective from next major release, correct? Or are we
> planning to have this in effect with R2.x?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> > Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> > Based Manufacturing, Professional
> > Services and Retail & Trade
> > http://www.orrtiz.com <http://www.orrtiz.com/>
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Kiran Ayyagari <kayyagari@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> > been using DS with Java 7 from an year, I didn't run into any
> issues
> >
> > [X] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting
> Java 7from now on
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <
> elecharny@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > following a discussion we have had on the dev list regarding
> the support
> > of Java 6 and the strain it puts on some of the maven
> dependencies we
> > are using, here is a proposal to stop supporting Java 6 and
> to only
> > support Java 7 & 8 from now on.
> >
> > Keep in mind that Java 6 is not anymore supported by Oracle
> (except for
> > paying customers) since feb 2013, and Java 7 is out for now
> 3 years.
> >
> > So let's vote :
> >
> > [ ] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only
> supporting Java 7
> > from now on
> > [ ] +/- 0 : I don't mind/ no strong opinion
> > [ ] -1 no, we should keep going and adapt to support Java 6
> >
> > Many thanks !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kiran Ayyagari
> > http://keydap.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Colm O hEigeartaigh
> >
> > Talend Community Coder
> > http://coders.talend.com
>
Re: [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Shawn McKinney <sm...@apache.org>.
+1 (Fortress code has been Java 7 dependent for a couple of years)
On 01/08/2015 03:39 AM, Colm O hEigeartaigh wrote:
> +1. I'd suggest though releasing one more version supporting JDK 1.6 to allow users time to upgrade.
>
> Colm.
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> [X] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7from now on
>
> This will be effective from next major release, correct? Or are we planning to have this in effect with R2.x?
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com <http://www.orrtiz.com/>
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Kiran Ayyagari <kayyagari@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> been using DS with Java 7 from an year, I didn't run into any issues
>
> [X] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7from now on
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <elecharny@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> following a discussion we have had on the dev list regarding the support
> of Java 6 and the strain it puts on some of the maven dependencies we
> are using, here is a proposal to stop supporting Java 6 and to only
> support Java 7 & 8 from now on.
>
> Keep in mind that Java 6 is not anymore supported by Oracle (except for
> paying customers) since feb 2013, and Java 7 is out for now 3 years.
>
> So let's vote :
>
> [ ] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7
> from now on
> [ ] +/- 0 : I don't mind/ no strong opinion
> [ ] -1 no, we should keep going and adapt to support Java 6
>
> Many thanks !
>
>
>
>
> --
> Kiran Ayyagari
> http://keydap.com
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Colm O hEigeartaigh
>
> Talend Community Coder
> http://coders.talend.com
Re: [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Le 08/01/15 21:31, Stefan Seelmann a écrit :
> On 01/08/2015 10:50 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
>> Le 08/01/15 10:39, Colm O hEigeartaigh a écrit :
>>> +1. I'd suggest though releasing one more version supporting JDK 1.6 to
>>> allow users time to upgrade.
>> Sure. I was not explicit, but we *can* (§and should at this point) keep
>> the source target to be 1.6
> When I saw the vote and your text I *implicitely* thought you mean Java
> source and compiler target version. Explicit is better than implicit :P
Ok, my bad here. I have been influenced by the suggestion to keep Java 6
as a version we should support for the server, and I wrote that might be
a good idea to use Java 7 to build teh server but keeping Java 6 as a
JVM we can use to run the server.
Considering the dozen errors in ApacheDS with Java 6, I think it's time
to be a bit more drastic here and say we only support Java7 for build
and run.
Sorry for the confusion.
Re: [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Stefan Seelmann <ma...@stefan-seelmann.de>.
On 01/08/2015 10:50 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
> Le 08/01/15 10:39, Colm O hEigeartaigh a écrit :
>> +1. I'd suggest though releasing one more version supporting JDK 1.6 to
>> allow users time to upgrade.
>
> Sure. I was not explicit, but we *can* (§and should at this point) keep
> the source target to be 1.6
When I saw the vote and your text I *implicitely* thought you mean Java
source and compiler target version. Explicit is better than implicit :P
But we should clarify what "Support only Java 7" means.
IMHO, with source/target set to 1.6 we still transport the message "this
code works on Java 6".
Current state using Java 1.6.0_45: API compiles and tests pass. Server
compiles but there a dozen test failures. So we know that there are
problems when using Java 6, on the other hand I guess 98% of the
features work with Java 6.
Anyway, here is my +1.
Kind Regards,
Stefan
Re: [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Le 08/01/15 10:39, Colm O hEigeartaigh a écrit :
> +1. I'd suggest though releasing one more version supporting JDK 1.6 to
> allow users time to upgrade.
Sure. I was not explicit, but we *can* (§and should at this point) keep
the source target to be 1.6
Re: [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Colm O hEigeartaigh <co...@apache.org>.
+1. I'd suggest though releasing one more version supporting JDK 1.6 to
allow users time to upgrade.
Colm.
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [X] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7from
> now on
>
> This will be effective from next major release, correct? Or are we
> planning to have this in effect with R2.x?
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Kiran Ayyagari <ka...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> been using DS with Java 7 from an year, I didn't run into any issues
>>
>> [X] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7from
>> now on
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> following a discussion we have had on the dev list regarding the support
>>> of Java 6 and the strain it puts on some of the maven dependencies we
>>> are using, here is a proposal to stop supporting Java 6 and to only
>>> support Java 7 & 8 from now on.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind that Java 6 is not anymore supported by Oracle (except for
>>> paying customers) since feb 2013, and Java 7 is out for now 3 years.
>>>
>>> So let's vote :
>>>
>>> [ ] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7
>>> from now on
>>> [ ] +/- 0 : I don't mind/ no strong opinion
>>> [ ] -1 no, we should keep going and adapt to support Java 6
>>>
>>> Many thanks !
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kiran Ayyagari
>> http://keydap.com
>>
>
>
--
Colm O hEigeartaigh
Talend Community Coder
http://coders.talend.com
Re: [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
We can plan for it. Makes it a lot easier to communicate.
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Le 08/01/15 08:55, Pierre Smits a écrit :
> > [X] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7from
> > now on
> >
> > This will be effective from next major release, correct? Or are we
> planning
> > to have this in effect with R2.x?
>
> Java 7 will be EOL in april, 2015, so quite soon.
>
> I suspect we will have to drop the support for Java 7 sooner or later.
> Blame Oracle for that, but OTOH, we don't support old version either ...
>
>
Re: [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Le 08/01/15 08:55, Pierre Smits a écrit :
> [X] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7from
> now on
>
> This will be effective from next major release, correct? Or are we planning
> to have this in effect with R2.x?
Java 7 will be EOL in april, 2015, so quite soon.
I suspect we will have to drop the support for Java 7 sooner or later.
Blame Oracle for that, but OTOH, we don't support old version either ...
Re: [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
[X] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7from
now on
This will be effective from next major release, correct? Or are we planning
to have this in effect with R2.x?
Regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Kiran Ayyagari <ka...@apache.org> wrote:
> been using DS with Java 7 from an year, I didn't run into any issues
>
> [X] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7from
> now on
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> following a discussion we have had on the dev list regarding the support
>> of Java 6 and the strain it puts on some of the maven dependencies we
>> are using, here is a proposal to stop supporting Java 6 and to only
>> support Java 7 & 8 from now on.
>>
>> Keep in mind that Java 6 is not anymore supported by Oracle (except for
>> paying customers) since feb 2013, and Java 7 is out for now 3 years.
>>
>> So let's vote :
>>
>> [ ] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7
>> from now on
>> [ ] +/- 0 : I don't mind/ no strong opinion
>> [ ] -1 no, we should keep going and adapt to support Java 6
>>
>> Many thanks !
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Kiran Ayyagari
> http://keydap.com
>
Re: [Vote] Support only Java 7 for all the components
Posted by Kiran Ayyagari <ka...@apache.org>.
been using DS with Java 7 from an year, I didn't run into any issues
[X] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7from
now on
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> following a discussion we have had on the dev list regarding the support
> of Java 6 and the strain it puts on some of the maven dependencies we
> are using, here is a proposal to stop supporting Java 6 and to only
> support Java 7 & 8 from now on.
>
> Keep in mind that Java 6 is not anymore supported by Oracle (except for
> paying customers) since feb 2013, and Java 7 is out for now 3 years.
>
> So let's vote :
>
> [ ] +1 yes, drop Java 6 and make the projects only supporting Java 7
> from now on
> [ ] +/- 0 : I don't mind/ no strong opinion
> [ ] -1 no, we should keep going and adapt to support Java 6
>
> Many thanks !
>
>
--
Kiran Ayyagari
http://keydap.com