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[jira] [Created] (FELIX-5459) Use Java 6 as minimum version
Carsten Ziegeler created FELIX-5459:
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Summary: Use Java 6 as minimum version
Key: FELIX-5459
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5459
Project: Felix
Issue Type: Improvement
Components: Declarative Services (SCR)
Reporter: Carsten Ziegeler
Assignee: Carsten Ziegeler
Fix For: scr-2.1.0
Currently we have Java 5 as the min version, considering that R7 of the OSGi spec is at least targetting Java 7 or even Java 8, this looks really out of date.
I suggest we move to Java 6 for now
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Re: [jira] [Created] (FELIX-5459) Use Java 6 as minimum version
Posted by Ferry Huberts <ma...@hupie.com>.
On 22/12/16 09:07, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> Hi Ferrie
>
> I heard that before in other places, but I am bit concerned with this
> stance, because: AFAICT Debian Jessie based on OpenJDK 7 and this
> basically is not really supported, is it ? All work seems to go
> toward OpenJDK 8/Java 8 and now Java 9.
You don't have to convince me. _Everything_ in Debian is old, too old.
Debian is not my choice...
I'm already suffering from the J8 thing because IIRC I can't upgrade
org.apache.felix.http.jetty beyond 3.1.6
OTOH, if you guys would decide to switch to 8 that would give me
ammunition to force J8 into our product, which is something I've wanted
for a long time. However, that would not be an easy battle for me.
Two sides to the story :-(
>
> So,I think it is unfortunate that OpenJDK 8 is only available through
> the Jessie back ports. But still, I think this should not prevent
> users from using it.
>
> But that is your take, for sure. Just some other light on this
> strange Debian situation.
>
> Regards Felix
>
>> Am 22.12.2016 um 09:01 schrieb Ferry Huberts <ma...@hupie.com>:
>>
>> From the sidelines:
>>
>> Going to 8 would not be good for the products I work on. These are
>> based on Debian Jessie, which has 7. We _can_ get 8 though
>> backports but are a bit hesitant to do that.
>>
>> I guess all products based on 'older' distros would suffer when
>> going to 8.
>>
>> My 2 cents.
>>
>> Ferry
>>
>> On 22/12/16 08:50, Felix Meschberger wrote:
>>> I wonder, whether not go directly to Java 7 (or even 8) ? IIRC we
>>> stayed at 1.4 for a long time as Java 1.4 was the latest version
>>> available on mobile/embedded platforms for a long time. Now the
>>> latest versions for these is Java 8, so I think we might not
>>> restrict ourselves to Java 6 any longer.
>>>
>>> WDYT ?
>>>
>>> Regards Felix
>>>
>>>> Am 21.12.2016 um 16:46 schrieb Carsten Ziegeler (JIRA)
>>>> <ji...@apache.org>:
>>>>
>>>> Carsten Ziegeler created FELIX-5459:
>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Summary: Use Java 6 as minimum version Key: FELIX-5459 URL:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5459 Project:
>>>> Felix Issue Type: Improvement Components: Declarative Services
>>>> (SCR) Reporter: Carsten Ziegeler Assignee: Carsten Ziegeler Fix
>>>> For: scr-2.1.0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Currently we have Java 5 as the min version, considering that
>>>> R7 of the OSGi spec is at least targetting Java 7 or even Java
>>>> 8, this looks really out of date. I suggest we move to Java 6
>>>> for now
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
>> -- Ferry Huberts
>
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Ferry Huberts
Re: [jira] [Created] (FELIX-5459) Use Java 6 as minimum version
Posted by Felix Meschberger <fm...@adobe.com>.
Hi Ferrie
I heard that before in other places, but I am bit concerned with this stance, because: AFAICT Debian Jessie based on OpenJDK 7 and this basically is not really supported, is it ? All work seems to go toward OpenJDK 8/Java 8 and now Java 9.
So,I think it is unfortunate that OpenJDK 8 is only available through the Jessie back ports. But still, I think this should not prevent users from using it.
But that is your take, for sure. Just some other light on this strange Debian situation.
Regards
Felix
> Am 22.12.2016 um 09:01 schrieb Ferry Huberts <ma...@hupie.com>:
>
> From the sidelines:
>
> Going to 8 would not be good for the products I work on.
> These are based on Debian Jessie, which has 7.
> We _can_ get 8 though backports but are a bit hesitant to do that.
>
> I guess all products based on 'older' distros would suffer when going to 8.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Ferry
>
> On 22/12/16 08:50, Felix Meschberger wrote:
>> I wonder, whether not go directly to Java 7 (or even 8) ? IIRC we stayed at 1.4 for a long time as Java 1.4 was the latest version available on mobile/embedded platforms for a long time. Now the latest versions for these is Java 8, so I think we might not restrict ourselves to Java 6 any longer.
>>
>> WDYT ?
>>
>> Regards
>> Felix
>>
>>> Am 21.12.2016 um 16:46 schrieb Carsten Ziegeler (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>:
>>>
>>> Carsten Ziegeler created FELIX-5459:
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Summary: Use Java 6 as minimum version
>>> Key: FELIX-5459
>>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5459
>>> Project: Felix
>>> Issue Type: Improvement
>>> Components: Declarative Services (SCR)
>>> Reporter: Carsten Ziegeler
>>> Assignee: Carsten Ziegeler
>>> Fix For: scr-2.1.0
>>>
>>>
>>> Currently we have Java 5 as the min version, considering that R7 of the OSGi spec is at least targetting Java 7 or even Java 8, this looks really out of date.
>>> I suggest we move to Java 6 for now
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
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> Ferry Huberts
Re: [jira] [Created] (FELIX-5459) Use Java 6 as minimum version
Posted by Ferry Huberts <ma...@hupie.com>.
From the sidelines:
Going to 8 would not be good for the products I work on.
These are based on Debian Jessie, which has 7.
We _can_ get 8 though backports but are a bit hesitant to do that.
I guess all products based on 'older' distros would suffer when going to 8.
My 2 cents.
Ferry
On 22/12/16 08:50, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> I wonder, whether not go directly to Java 7 (or even 8) ? IIRC we stayed at 1.4 for a long time as Java 1.4 was the latest version available on mobile/embedded platforms for a long time. Now the latest versions for these is Java 8, so I think we might not restrict ourselves to Java 6 any longer.
>
> WDYT ?
>
> Regards
> Felix
>
>> Am 21.12.2016 um 16:46 schrieb Carsten Ziegeler (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>:
>>
>> Carsten Ziegeler created FELIX-5459:
>> ---------------------------------------
>>
>> Summary: Use Java 6 as minimum version
>> Key: FELIX-5459
>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5459
>> Project: Felix
>> Issue Type: Improvement
>> Components: Declarative Services (SCR)
>> Reporter: Carsten Ziegeler
>> Assignee: Carsten Ziegeler
>> Fix For: scr-2.1.0
>>
>>
>> Currently we have Java 5 as the min version, considering that R7 of the OSGi spec is at least targetting Java 7 or even Java 8, this looks really out of date.
>> I suggest we move to Java 6 for now
>>
>>
>>
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Ferry Huberts
Re: [jira] [Created] (FELIX-5459) Use Java 6 as minimum version
Posted by Felix Meschberger <fm...@adobe.com>.
I wonder, whether not go directly to Java 7 (or even 8) ? IIRC we stayed at 1.4 for a long time as Java 1.4 was the latest version available on mobile/embedded platforms for a long time. Now the latest versions for these is Java 8, so I think we might not restrict ourselves to Java 6 any longer.
WDYT ?
Regards
Felix
> Am 21.12.2016 um 16:46 schrieb Carsten Ziegeler (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>:
>
> Carsten Ziegeler created FELIX-5459:
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Summary: Use Java 6 as minimum version
> Key: FELIX-5459
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5459
> Project: Felix
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Declarative Services (SCR)
> Reporter: Carsten Ziegeler
> Assignee: Carsten Ziegeler
> Fix For: scr-2.1.0
>
>
> Currently we have Java 5 as the min version, considering that R7 of the OSGi spec is at least targetting Java 7 or even Java 8, this looks really out of date.
> I suggest we move to Java 6 for now
>
>
>
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