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problems with editors
Hello community,
I have a bunch of problems with the different editors offered with
Lenya. I'm not sure if I have to configure some important settings or
the editors are not what they should be. ;-)
I know a lot of problems are related to the editors itself, but on the
other hand they are an important part and a figurehead (Aushängeschild)
for Lenya.
What editor are you currently using best?
BXE: Works far at best, even with source code editing, but this is not
acceptable for end users. But how can I extend the accepted tag libray?
Bxe claims then: hr(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml) is not allowed as
child of body(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml)
Xopus: Crashes if my whole Mozilla 1.6, if I just try to visit the demo
site. Sigh...
Kupu (1.0.3): If I'm editing a special language version it always steps
back to the main language in the authoring if I have saved and exited
out of Kupu. This is a bit annoying. Horizontal rules are not working
for me.
(One) Form editor: If I press the "Save" or "Cancel" button only a blank
page appears. Despite of that it is quite difficult to edit a correct
page. It always claims about a missing element and the error messages
are not very helpful. (Ok. I have to confess I'm not very familar with
all the XML tags, but even the "RELAX NG" error message are not very
helpful.)
So far so...
Greetings
Thomas
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by "Hartwig, Thomas" <t....@crapoud.com>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Thomas Hartwig wrote:
>
>> Hello community,
>>
>> I have a bunch of problems with the different editors offered with
>> Lenya. I'm not sure if I have to configure some important settings or
>> the editors are not what they should be. ;-)
>> I know a lot of problems are related to the editors itself, but on the
>> other hand they are an important part and a figurehead
>> (Aush�ngeschild) for Lenya.
>>
>> What editor are you currently using best?
>>
>> BXE: Works far at best, even with source code editing, but this is not
>> acceptable for end users.
>
>
> Why?
>
>> But how can I extend the accepted tag libray?
>
>
> AFAIK there is no such thing as an "accepted tag library" ...
> It should accept the tags as you define them in your schema.
>
>> Bxe claims then: hr(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml) is not allowed as
>> child of body(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml)
>
>
> I guess you can't blame this on BXE, could it be a mistake
> in the schema?
Thanks for your sugesstions. I have found the settings in
"config/doctypes/schemas/xhtml.rng" and changed the statement "<include
href="xhtml/xhtml-basic.rng">" to "<include href="xhtml/xhtml-strict.rng">"
Greetings
Thomas
Re: problems with editors
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Thomas Hartwig wrote:
> Hello community,
>
> I have a bunch of problems with the different editors offered with
> Lenya. I'm not sure if I have to configure some important settings or
> the editors are not what they should be. ;-)
> I know a lot of problems are related to the editors itself, but on the
> other hand they are an important part and a figurehead (Aushängeschild)
> for Lenya.
>
> What editor are you currently using best?
>
> BXE: Works far at best, even with source code editing, but this is not
> acceptable for end users.
Why?
> But how can I extend the accepted tag libray?
AFAIK there is no such thing as an "accepted tag library" ...
It should accept the tags as you define them in your schema.
> Bxe claims then: hr(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml) is not allowed as
> child of body(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml)
I guess you can't blame this on BXE, could it be a mistake
in the schema?
>
> Xopus: Crashes if my whole Mozilla 1.6, if I just try to visit the demo
> site. Sigh...
Xopus is IE only.
[...]
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
That absolutely does not imply that no patches should be created to resolve
> these bugs, but I again would like to stress that the release of 1.2 is overdue
> since many months and that there are a few bugs for which patches exist which
> have not yet been applied.
some patches (such as CIFS) are incomplete (no mock classes), others are
too invasive this late in the 1.2 game (build system?)
but yeah. lets ship the sucker. the only "blocker" is the binary target
which fails to use jetty.
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
>>
>> I would suggest to add it for 1.2, because I think it's important that
>> the end user doesn't get confused by something like that
>
>
> do you remember the reason for the client-side redirects? (as opposed
> to proper server-side ones)
not really. I guess it just happened. The same is true for all the 4 or 5
"different" refresh/redirect sreens.
Well, I guess I will fix it, because I am annoyed by the bug ;-)
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> agreed, but this refresh/redirect bug is really annoying :-(
>
> and cofusing for Mozilla users ...
>
> I would suggest to add it for 1.2, because I think it's important that
> the end user doesn't get confused by something like that
do you remember the reason for the client-side redirects? (as opposed to
proper server-side ones)
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>
>
>>>This one?: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27400
>>>
>>>
>>yes (I also think it's very annoying, but haven't found a bugfix yet)
>>
>>
>
>This is one of the 62 bugs whose resolution is currently scheduled for 1.4 not
>for 1.2 and it only has a "severity" level of "normal".
>
>
>That absolutely does not imply that no patches should be created to resolve
>these bugs, but I again would like to stress that the release of 1.2 is overdue
>since many months and that there are a few bugs for which patches exist which
>have not yet been applied.
>
>
agreed, but this refresh/redirect bug is really annoying :-(
and cofusing for Mozilla users ...
I would suggest to add it for 1.2, because I think it's important that
the end user doesn't get confused by something like that
WDYT?
Michi
>Andreas
>
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> > This one?: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27400
>
> yes (I also think it's very annoying, but haven't found a bugfix yet)
This is one of the 62 bugs whose resolution is currently scheduled for 1.4 not
for 1.2 and it only has a "severity" level of "normal".
That absolutely does not imply that no patches should be created to resolve
these bugs, but I again would like to stress that the release of 1.2 is overdue
since many months and that there are a few bugs for which patches exist which
have not yet been applied.
Andreas
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thomas Hartwig wrote:
>
> Short tip. I have reactivated the commented out link:
>
> Redirect to: <a href="{$uri}"><xsl:value-of select="$uri"/></a>
>
> in redirect-to.xsl and the other redirect pages. ;-)
that's what I am doing for quite some time ;-)
Michi
>
> Thomas
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by Thomas Hartwig <t....@crapoud.com>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Thomas Hartwig wrote:
>
>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>
>>> Thomas Hartwig wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello community,
>>>>
>>>> (One) Form editor: If I press the "Save" or "Cancel" button only a
>>>> blank page appears.
>>>
>>> I think this is a problem of the redirect screen (Mozilla and
>>> refresh), whereas
>>> I think a bug entry already exists for that
>>
>> This one?: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27400
>
> yes (I also think it's very annoying, but haven't found a bugfix yet)
Short tip. I have reactivated the commented out link:
Redirect to: <a href="{$uri}"><xsl:value-of select="$uri"/></a>
in redirect-to.xsl and the other redirect pages. ;-)
Thomas
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by "Hartwig, Thomas" <t....@crapoud.com>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Thomas Hartwig wrote:
>
>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>
>>> Thomas Hartwig wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello community,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (One) Form editor: If I press the "Save" or "Cancel" button only a
>>>> blank page appears.
>>>
>>> I think this is a problem of the redirect screen (Mozilla and
>>> refresh), whereas
>>> I think a bug entry already exists for that
>>
>> This one?: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27400
>
> yes (I also think it's very annoying, but haven't found a bugfix yet)
See my suggestions on the lenya-dev list (Bugzilla comment). This seems
to be a bug in Mozilla itself.
>>>> Despite of that it is quite difficult to edit a correct page. It
>>>> always claims about a missing element and the error messages are not
>>>> very helpful.
>>>
>>> seems to be a problem that the data can't validated re the RNG.
>>>
>>> Where exactly do you get these validation errors?
>>
>> For somewhat reason the <title> tag was lost in one of the documents
>> and the error message was: RELAX NG Validation failed:
>> /opt/tomcat/temp/OneformEditor32414.tmp:22:10: error: unfinished element
>
> how did it get lost?
>
Sorry I can't remember, I would have posted if I had known. I'm sure I
did not delete by hand. :-|
Thomas
Re: problems with editors
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thomas Hartwig wrote:
> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> Thomas Hartwig wrote:
>>
>>> Hello community,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (One) Form editor: If I press the "Save" or "Cancel" button only a
>>> blank page appears.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think this is a problem of the redirect screen (Mozilla and
>> refresh), whereas
>> I think a bug entry already exists for that
>
>
> This one?: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27400
yes (I also think it's very annoying, but haven't found a bugfix yet)
>
>>
>>> Despite of that it is quite difficult to edit a correct page. It
>>> always claims about a missing element and the error messages are not
>>> very helpful.
>>
>>
>> seems to be a problem that the data can't validated re the RNG.
>>
>> Where exactly do you get these validation errors?
>
>
> For somewhat reason the <title> tag was lost in one of the documents
> and the error message was: RELAX NG Validation failed:
> /opt/tomcat/temp/OneformEditor32414.tmp:22:10: error: unfinished element
how did it get lost?
Michi
>
> Now with the title within I can edit the page with the forms as well.
> But the empty page problem remains of course.
>
> Thomas
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by Thomas Hartwig <t....@crapoud.com>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Thomas Hartwig wrote:
>
>> Hello community,
>>
>>
>>
>> (One) Form editor: If I press the "Save" or "Cancel" button only a
>> blank page appears.
>
>
>
> I think this is a problem of the redirect screen (Mozilla and refresh),
> whereas
> I think a bug entry already exists for that
This one?: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27400
>
>> Despite of that it is quite difficult to edit a correct page. It
>> always claims about a missing element and the error messages are not
>> very helpful.
>
> seems to be a problem that the data can't validated re the RNG.
>
> Where exactly do you get these validation errors?
For somewhat reason the <title> tag was lost in one of the documents and
the error message was: RELAX NG Validation failed:
/opt/tomcat/temp/OneformEditor32414.tmp:22:10: error: unfinished element
Now with the title within I can edit the page with the forms as well.
But the empty page problem remains of course.
Thomas
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thomas Hartwig wrote:
> Hello community,
>
>
>
> (One) Form editor: If I press the "Save" or "Cancel" button only a
> blank page appears.
I think this is a problem of the redirect screen (Mozilla and refresh),
whereas
I think a bug entry already exists for that
> Despite of that it is quite difficult to edit a correct page. It
> always claims about a missing element and the error messages are not
> very helpful.
seems to be a problem that the data can't validated re the RNG.
Where exactly do you get these validation errors?
Thanks
Michi
> (Ok. I have to confess I'm not very familar with all the XML tags, but
> even the "RELAX NG" error message are not very helpful.)
>
> So far so...
> Greetings
> Thomas
>
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Re: problems with editors
Posted by Christian Stocker <ch...@bitflux.ch>.
On 13.5.2004 10:39 Uhr, Thomas Hartwig wrote:
> Hello community,
>
> I have a bunch of problems with the different editors offered with
> Lenya. I'm not sure if I have to configure some important settings or
> the editors are not what they should be. ;-)
> I know a lot of problems are related to the editors itself, but on the
> other hand they are an important part and a figurehead (Aushängeschild)
> for Lenya.
>
> What editor are you currently using best?
>
> BXE: Works far at best, even with source code editing, but this is not
> acceptable for end users. But how can I extend the accepted tag libray?
You have to adjust the RelaxNG Schema for your doctype.
> Bxe claims then: hr(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml) is not allowed as
> child of body(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml)
>
> Xopus: Crashes if my whole Mozilla 1.6, if I just try to visit the demo
> site. Sigh...
Xopus only works on IE/Win. There were some versions floating around,
which also worked on Mozilla, but that developement was abandoned before
any real releases were made, IIRC.
chregu
>
> Kupu (1.0.3): If I'm editing a special language version it always steps
> back to the main language in the authoring if I have saved and exited
> out of Kupu. This is a bit annoying. Horizontal rules are not working
> for me.
>
> (One) Form editor: If I press the "Save" or "Cancel" button only a blank
> page appears. Despite of that it is quite difficult to edit a correct
> page. It always claims about a missing element and the error messages
> are not very helpful. (Ok. I have to confess I'm not very familar with
> all the XML tags, but even the "RELAX NG" error message are not very
> helpful.)
>
> So far so...
> Greetings
> Thomas
>
>
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