Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!)

["Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>]

On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 05:57, dion@multitask.com.au wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> > I think both projects have nice advantages and features.  Maven has good
> > documentation.  Centipede is easier to setup and is a bit more advanced
> > in the way it generates documentation.  Its a bit alpha but I think the
> I've had the opposite experience. The whole reason I got involved with
> Maven was that Centipede was assuming a set of knowledge and not providing
> any documentation.
> 

So quick question.  If I don't like the documentation quality of say
oh......this project: http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/index.html --
should I start my own project to compete with it and then create FUD
messages saying how much it sucks while I tout my project as more mature
even if its not quite kicked off yet?  (at least everyone I've talked to
says they haven't quite gotten maven working yet -- haven't tried it
myself...centipede suits my needs so no real motivation)

Or would you rather me contribute patches to the documentation of the
project.

I find it doubtful that you put any SERIOUS effort into getting the
knowledge.  Ken has been bugging the crap out of me with Centipede
information.  I'll be using it for a couple things here and there at
work and well I just plan to contribute documentation where I find it
lacking *shrug*.

> > So why I applaud the effort.  I really think the marketing campaign
> > could be a bit more low key and pragmatic.  Just my opinion...maybe I
> > should read my tagline again before expressing it.  Flame away.
> Marketing campaign? It's just the developer community being excited and
> sharing with their friends.
> 

Well tone it down to information instead of FUD+ and maybe I'll even do
more than admire the documentation.  (nice work on the doco btw -- its a
quality I like a lot).

-Andy

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Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!)

[Daniel Rall <dl...@finemaltcoding.com>]

"Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> writes:

> On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 05:57, dion@multitask.com.au wrote:
> > 
>> [snip]
>> > I think both projects have nice advantages and features.  Maven has good
>> > documentation.  Centipede is easier to setup and is a bit more advanced
>> > in the way it generates documentation.  Its a bit alpha but I think the
>> I've had the opposite experience. The whole reason I got involved with
>> Maven was that Centipede was assuming a set of knowledge and not providing
>> any documentation.
>
> So quick question.  If I don't like the documentation quality of say
> oh......this project: http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/index.html --
> should I start my own project to compete with it and then create FUD
> messages
[snip]

Personally, I wouldn't recommend it, but you seem to be doing a fine
job of it so far Andrew.

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