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Posted to user@lenya.apache.org by "Inizan, Sebastien (CDS-VPI)" <SI...@euro.who.int> on 2005/06/06 10:43:41 UTC
New XHTML editor for lenya ?
Has anyone managed to integrate a new XHTML editor ?
I noticed that Kupu is not fully compatible with Internet Explorer (problems
with images and saving). After looking over Internet, I found a tool called
FCKeditor that looks very good. Has anyone managed to integrate it to Lenya
? What are the different operations for doing so ?
Thanks,
Sebastien.
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Re: Wiki comment: IE on windows only (Re: New XHTML editor for lenya
?)
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Roger Stupf wrote:
>> you need to create an account first ;)
>
>
> Hm, it seems I'm slow today too; I created an account and logged in;
> but it seems the page is protected...
ah.. recently, a cache was put in front of the wiki to ease load on the
server. if you request the page with a ? it should bypass the cache.
http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ProposalEditors?action=edit
sorry about that, the caching details are still being worked out by ASF
infrastrcture volunteers.
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Re: Wiki comment: IE on windows only (Re: New XHTML editor for lenya ?)
Posted by Roger Stupf <ro...@unicom.unizh.ch>.
Hi Gregor
>
>>> you can add your comments to http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/
>>> ProposalEditors
>>>
>> I'm really slow today (again), so i failed to see anything close
>> to an "edit" link. Anyway, i just remembered i saw this on the
>> wiki page regarding FCKEditor:
>>
>
> you need to create an account first ;)
Hm, it seems I'm slow today too; I created an account and logged in;
but it seems the page is protected...
Aloha,
Roger
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Re: Wiki comment: IE on windows only (Re: New XHTML editor for lenya
?)
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Emmanouil Batsis wrote:
>
>> you can add your comments to
>> http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ProposalEditors
>
>
>
> I'm really slow today (again), so i failed to see anything close to an
> "edit" link. Anyway, i just remembered i saw this on the wiki page
> regarding FCKEditor:
you need to create an account first ;)
> [[[
> "Internet Explorer compatibility is available over Windows only." Does
> this mean: Yes, we support MacOS and IE, but not in this combination.
> Does anyone have any idea if this is for any technical reason?
> ]]]
>
> AFAIK the same restriction applies to all WYSIWYG editors that work on
> IE (like Kupu), simply because they are using a certain activeX control
> that utilizes MSHTML to edit documents and that control is only
> available on windows.
>
> Back to a slow day for me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manos
>
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Wiki comment: IE on windows only (Re: New XHTML editor for lenya
?)
Posted by Emmanouil Batsis <Em...@eurodyn.com>.
> you can add your comments to
> http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ProposalEditors
I'm really slow today (again), so i failed to see anything close to an
"edit" link. Anyway, i just remembered i saw this on the wiki page
regarding FCKEditor:
[[[
"Internet Explorer compatibility is available over Windows only." Does
this mean: Yes, we support MacOS and IE, but not in this combination.
Does anyone have any idea if this is for any technical reason?
]]]
AFAIK the same restriction applies to all WYSIWYG editors that work on
IE (like Kupu), simply because they are using a certain activeX control
that utilizes MSHTML to edit documents and that control is only
available on windows.
Back to a slow day for me.
Cheers,
Manos
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Re: New XHTML editor for lenya ?
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Rolando Isidoro wrote:
> In addiction to what Sebastien stated, Kupu and BXE seem to be lesser
> editing solutions for Lenya. During the life cicle of a publication we
> can identify developers, designers, managers, administrators and
> authors. While the first ones are usually skilled people in their
> duties, I always tend to look at authors as people with no HTML
> knowledge, who are used to word processing applications, where
> everything is WYSIWYG and expect that with a few clicks in the mouse and
> the keyboard they can have a good looking document. Often, most of the
> time actually, while performing some simple authoring tasks with BXE or
> Kupu (still my favorite given the choices), such as table customizations
> or links behavior, I find myself editing HTML source code to get the
> expected results, which, in my opinion, shouldn't be the case in order
> to make Lenya as usable as possible.
to be fair, the kupu integration is only about 30% done. you can add
your comments to http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ProposalEditors
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Re: RES: New XHTML editor for lenya ?
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Gustavo Nalle Fernandes wrote:
> I am currently working in lenya FCKEditor integration. At the moment, I
> could only implemented a single usecase (Open document). I´ll be working on
> the others in the next few weeks.
> Looking at TinyMCE, I found it very similar to FCKEditor in terms of
> functionality.
> Both cover the gaps and limitations of Kupu.
cool! please note that we will not be able to ship lenya with FCKEditor
because it is LGPL. take that into account when you design the
integration :)
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RES: New XHTML editor for lenya ?
Posted by Gustavo Nalle Fernandes <gu...@terra.com.br>.
I am currently working in lenya FCKEditor integration. At the moment, I
could only implemented a single usecase (Open document). I´ll be working on
the others in the next few weeks.
Looking at TinyMCE, I found it very similar to FCKEditor in terms of
functionality.
Both cover the gaps and limitations of Kupu.
[]s
Gustavo
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: Rolando Isidoro [mailto:rli@uninova.pt]
> Enviada em: segunda-feira, 6 de junho de 2005 08:17
> Para: user@lenya.apache.org
> Assunto: Re: New XHTML editor for lenya ?
>
> In addiction to what Sebastien stated, Kupu and BXE seem to
> be lesser editing solutions for Lenya. During the life cicle
> of a publication we can identify developers, designers,
> managers, administrators and authors. While the first ones
> are usually skilled people in their duties, I always tend to
> look at authors as people with no HTML knowledge, who are
> used to word processing applications, where everything is
> WYSIWYG and expect that with a few clicks in the mouse and
> the keyboard they can have a good looking document. Often,
> most of the time actually, while performing some simple
> authoring tasks with BXE or Kupu (still my favorite given the
> choices), such as table customizations or links behavior, I
> find myself editing HTML source code to get the expected
> results, which, in my opinion, shouldn't be the case in order
> to make Lenya as usable as possible.
>
> FCKeditor seems to be a better authoring tool than the ones
> offered, here's the url of its homepage
> http://www.fckeditor.net/ and let me add another possibility,
> TinyMCE, which seems to be a solid solution given some of the
> features listed in their homepage at
> http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/index.php, namely:
>
> * Easy to integrate, takes only two lines of code.
> * Theme and template support.
> * Plugin support.
> * Easy to extend with custom code.
> * Customizable HTML/XHTML 1.0 output. Block invalid elements and
> force attributes.
> * International language support (Language packs)
> currently English,
> Swedish, Italian, German, Czech, Hungarian, Dutch,
> Finnish, Danish
> and Arabic and much more.
> * Multiple browser support, currently Mozilla, MSIE and FireFox.
>
> Thanks for the attention,
> Rolando
>
>
> Inizan, Sebastien (CDS-VPI) wrote:
>
> >Has anyone managed to integrate a new XHTML editor ?
> >
> >I noticed that Kupu is not fully compatible with Internet Explorer
> >(problems with images and saving). After looking over
> Internet, I found
> >a tool called FCKeditor that looks very good. Has anyone managed to
> >integrate it to Lenya ? What are the different operations
> for doing so ?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Sebastien.
> >
>
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Re: New XHTML editor for lenya ?
Posted by Rolando Isidoro <rl...@uninova.pt>.
In addiction to what Sebastien stated, Kupu and BXE seem to be lesser
editing solutions for Lenya. During the life cicle of a publication we
can identify developers, designers, managers, administrators and
authors. While the first ones are usually skilled people in their
duties, I always tend to look at authors as people with no HTML
knowledge, who are used to word processing applications, where
everything is WYSIWYG and expect that with a few clicks in the mouse and
the keyboard they can have a good looking document. Often, most of the
time actually, while performing some simple authoring tasks with BXE or
Kupu (still my favorite given the choices), such as table customizations
or links behavior, I find myself editing HTML source code to get the
expected results, which, in my opinion, shouldn't be the case in order
to make Lenya as usable as possible.
FCKeditor seems to be a better authoring tool than the ones offered,
here's the url of its homepage http://www.fckeditor.net/ and let me add
another possibility, TinyMCE, which seems to be a solid solution given
some of the features listed in their homepage at
http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/index.php, namely:
* Easy to integrate, takes only two lines of code.
* Theme and template support.
* Plugin support.
* Easy to extend with custom code.
* Customizable HTML/XHTML 1.0 output. Block invalid elements and
force attributes.
* International language support (Language packs) currently English,
Swedish, Italian, German, Czech, Hungarian, Dutch, Finnish, Danish
and Arabic and much more.
* Multiple browser support, currently Mozilla, MSIE and FireFox.
Thanks for the attention,
Rolando
Inizan, Sebastien (CDS-VPI) wrote:
>Has anyone managed to integrate a new XHTML editor ?
>
>I noticed that Kupu is not fully compatible with Internet Explorer (problems
>with images and saving). After looking over Internet, I found a tool called
>FCKeditor that looks very good. Has anyone managed to integrate it to Lenya
>? What are the different operations for doing so ?
>
>Thanks,
>Sebastien.
>
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