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Posted to dev@nuttx.apache.org by Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> on 2021/10/16 13:52:53 UTC
github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Hello world :-)
Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
repository model:
1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes place on 2.
Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete? :-)
--
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Brennan Ashton <ba...@brennanashton.com>.
The nxflat stuff in that repository is broken for modern gcc. I fixed it
and have hosted it standalone here as well as added some basic CI.
https://github.com/btashton/nxflat
--Brennan
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 7:38 AM Nathan Hartman <ha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 9:10 AM Abdelatif Guettouche
> <ab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > We've been told before that we can host well known projects even if
> > they are in an incompatible license. We discussed moving them to
> > Apache.
> > I'm not sure if we want to revive that discussion as it always went
> > unnoticed, but it would be ideal to have all the necessary
> > repositories in one place.
>
>
> I remember being told that as well.
>
> I think we will have to get permission to do it. Maybe it would be a
> good thing to have a [DISCUSS] and [VOTE] to determine whether the
> project wants to take that course, and if so, then we need to
> carefully present how/why we would like to host the tools.
>
> In addition to kconfig-frontends, there is also a customized version
> of GCC that is (IIRC) needed to make use of the FLAT (non-elf) binary
> loader (???).
>
> Nathan
>
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Nathan Hartman <ha...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 9:10 AM Abdelatif Guettouche
<ab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We've been told before that we can host well known projects even if
> they are in an incompatible license. We discussed moving them to
> Apache.
> I'm not sure if we want to revive that discussion as it always went
> unnoticed, but it would be ideal to have all the necessary
> repositories in one place.
I remember being told that as well.
I think we will have to get permission to do it. Maybe it would be a
good thing to have a [DISCUSS] and [VOTE] to determine whether the
project wants to take that course, and if so, then we need to
carefully present how/why we would like to host the tools.
In addition to kconfig-frontends, there is also a customized version
of GCC that is (IIRC) needed to make use of the FLAT (non-elf) binary
loader (???).
Nathan
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Abdelatif Guettouche <ab...@gmail.com>.
> I would be happy to delete the whole thing. Adbelatif has offered to
> delete the contents as well. But we would need consensus. A few people
> writing emails doesn't constitute consensus. That is why we have formal
> votes so that everyone's voice is heard and the direction is clear.
We can then create a VOTE thread to decide whether we want to delete
it or not (can we consider this one as a DISCUSS thread?)
> And there should be some position about where and how we provide OS tool
> support. If not github.com/nuttx, then where?
We've been told before that we can host well known projects even if
they are in an incompatible license. We discussed moving them to
Apache.
I'm not sure if we want to revive that discussion as it always went
unnoticed, but it would be ideal to have all the necessary
repositories in one place.
Otherwise, github.com/nuttx would be a good place, maybe we can also
change the name to something similar to what Alin suggested above.
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 2:45 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Either way is fine, but we need action now. I have seen the same topic
> > happen on the email list many times, but nothing happens after that
> >discussion.
>
> I would be happy to delete the whole thing. Adbelatif has offered to
> delete the contents as well. But we would need consensus. A few people
> writing emails doesn't constitute consensus. That is why we have formal
> votes so that everyone's voice is heard and the direction is clear.
>
> With regard to the trademark usage, it would be good to get PPMC feedback
> on that. Perhaps they would have a clear position. I don't really know if
> there is an issue here or not... certainly there is less of an issue here
> than with NuttX YouTube, LinkedIN, Discord, and various NuttX named
> websites. The bitbucket nuttx repository would have the same trademark
> problem, if there is any.
>
> And there should be some position about where and how we provide OS tool
> support. If not github.com/nuttx, then where? Up until now no one has ever
> made any change to kconfig-frontends other than to fix compile failures due
> to toolchain differences. The only significant change has been to add
> Windows Native support and that is not in either the github or bitbucket
> repos.
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>.
> Either way is fine, but we need action now. I have seen the same topic
> happen on the email list many times, but nothing happens after that
>discussion.
I would be happy to delete the whole thing. Adbelatif has offered to
delete the contents as well. But we would need consensus. A few people
writing emails doesn't constitute consensus. That is why we have formal
votes so that everyone's voice is heard and the direction is clear.
With regard to the trademark usage, it would be good to get PPMC feedback
on that. Perhaps they would have a clear position. I don't really know if
there is an issue here or not... certainly there is less of an issue here
than with NuttX YouTube, LinkedIN, Discord, and various NuttX named
websites. The bitbucket nuttx repository would have the same trademark
problem, if there is any.
And there should be some position about where and how we provide OS tool
support. If not github.com/nuttx, then where? Up until now no one has ever
made any change to kconfig-frontends other than to fix compile failures due
to toolchain differences. The only significant change has been to add
Windows Native support and that is not in either the github or bitbucket
repos.
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info>.
TANK U SIR! =)
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 8:17 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All of the junk repositories are gone (that is a good thing to do
> regardless of what we decide to do with the directory). The
> github.com/nuttx directory still exists. The following people have write
> access:
>
> - Alan Carvalho de Assis, acassis
> - Anthony Merlino,antmerlino
> - David Sidrane, davids5
> - hartmannathan
> - liuguo09
> - lAbdelatif Guettouche, Ouss4
> - patacongo
> - Xiang Xiao, xiaoxiang781216
>
> We can add more if we decide to use the directory. Or we can remove the
> directory if we decide we don't need it.
>
> While this does not resolve the important issue at hand, it does at least
> resolve newbies being confused as Tomasz was.
>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 12:02 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I will go ahead and remove github.com/nuttx content. There is nother
> > there of value now and everything is available elsewhere. So that is safe
> > to do in any case.
> >
--
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Alin Jerpelea <je...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for cleaning it out
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 20:17 Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All of the junk repositories are gone (that is a good thing to do
> regardless of what we decide to do with the directory). The
> github.com/nuttx directory still exists. The following people have write
> access:
>
> - Alan Carvalho de Assis, acassis
> - Anthony Merlino,antmerlino
> - David Sidrane, davids5
> - hartmannathan
> - liuguo09
> - lAbdelatif Guettouche, Ouss4
> - patacongo
> - Xiang Xiao, xiaoxiang781216
>
> We can add more if we decide to use the directory. Or we can remove the
> directory if we decide we don't need it.
>
> While this does not resolve the important issue at hand, it does at least
> resolve newbies being confused as Tomasz was.
>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 12:02 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I will go ahead and remove github.com/nuttx content. There is nother
> > there of value now and everything is available elsewhere. So that is
> safe
> > to do in any case.
> >
>
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>.
All of the junk repositories are gone (that is a good thing to do
regardless of what we decide to do with the directory). The
github.com/nuttx directory still exists. The following people have write
access:
- Alan Carvalho de Assis, acassis
- Anthony Merlino,antmerlino
- David Sidrane, davids5
- hartmannathan
- liuguo09
- lAbdelatif Guettouche, Ouss4
- patacongo
- Xiang Xiao, xiaoxiang781216
We can add more if we decide to use the directory. Or we can remove the
directory if we decide we don't need it.
While this does not resolve the important issue at hand, it does at least
resolve newbies being confused as Tomasz was.
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 12:02 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I will go ahead and remove github.com/nuttx content. There is nother
> there of value now and everything is available elsewhere. So that is safe
> to do in any case.
>
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>.
I will go ahead and remove github.com/nuttx content. There is nother there
of value now and everything is available elsewhere. So that is safe to do
in any case.
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Brennan Ashton <ba...@brennanashton.com>.
It's going to be a clear trademark problem and the GitHub organization is
controlled by random people. Most PPMC members have no control over it.
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 11:51 PM Alin Jerpelea <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I propose that we delete the contents of https://github.com/NuttX/ and we
> host there only the components that have conflicting licenses under
> https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx-extras
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 06:45 Xiang Xiao <xi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Some tools(e.g. kconfig-frontend) are critical for NuttX, but in an
> > unmaintained state, so we have to maintain our own version.
> > Two options here:
> >
> > 1. Host on https://bitbucket.org/nuttx/, Greg needs to share the
> admin
> > right to all PPMC/Commmiter member.
> > 2. Host on https://github.com/NuttX/ <https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> >,
> > Remove no PPMC/Commiter from admin group
> >
> > Either way is fine, but we need action now. I have seen the same topic
> > happen on the email list many times, but nothing happens after that
> > discussion.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 1:26 AM Brennan Ashton <
> bashton@brennanashton.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Agreed it will just complicate things moving towards graduation. I had
> > > asked for it to be taken down a long time ago.
> > >
> > > --Brennan
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 7:10 AM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be
> > > deleted.
> > > > It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything has
> > > been
> > > > touched there in months.
> > > >
> > > > A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and
> > > applications
> > > > that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF
> > > project.
> > > > This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
> > > >
> > > > A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and
> it
> > is
> > > > not under the control of any project.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello world :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> > > > > repository model:
> > > > > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > > > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> > > > >
> > > > > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes
> > place
> > > on
> > > > > 2.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete? :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Alin Jerpelea <je...@gmail.com>.
I propose that we delete the contents of https://github.com/NuttX/ and we
host there only the components that have conflicting licenses under
https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx-extras
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 06:45 Xiang Xiao <xi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Some tools(e.g. kconfig-frontend) are critical for NuttX, but in an
> unmaintained state, so we have to maintain our own version.
> Two options here:
>
> 1. Host on https://bitbucket.org/nuttx/, Greg needs to share the admin
> right to all PPMC/Commmiter member.
> 2. Host on https://github.com/NuttX/ <https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx>,
> Remove no PPMC/Commiter from admin group
>
> Either way is fine, but we need action now. I have seen the same topic
> happen on the email list many times, but nothing happens after that
> discussion.
>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 1:26 AM Brennan Ashton <ba...@brennanashton.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Agreed it will just complicate things moving towards graduation. I had
> > asked for it to be taken down a long time ago.
> >
> > --Brennan
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 7:10 AM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be
> > deleted.
> > > It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything has
> > been
> > > touched there in months.
> > >
> > > A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and
> > applications
> > > that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF
> > project.
> > > This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
> > >
> > > A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and it
> is
> > > not under the control of any project.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello world :-)
> > > >
> > > > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> > > > repository model:
> > > > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> > > >
> > > > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes
> place
> > on
> > > > 2.
> > > >
> > > > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete? :-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Xiang Xiao <xi...@gmail.com>.
Some tools(e.g. kconfig-frontend) are critical for NuttX, but in an
unmaintained state, so we have to maintain our own version.
Two options here:
1. Host on https://bitbucket.org/nuttx/, Greg needs to share the admin
right to all PPMC/Commmiter member.
2. Host on https://github.com/NuttX/ <https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx>,
Remove no PPMC/Commiter from admin group
Either way is fine, but we need action now. I have seen the same topic
happen on the email list many times, but nothing happens after that
discussion.
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 1:26 AM Brennan Ashton <ba...@brennanashton.com>
wrote:
> Agreed it will just complicate things moving towards graduation. I had
> asked for it to be taken down a long time ago.
>
> --Brennan
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 7:10 AM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be
> deleted.
> > It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything has
> been
> > touched there in months.
> >
> > A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and
> applications
> > that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF
> project.
> > This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
> >
> > A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and it is
> > not under the control of any project.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello world :-)
> > >
> > > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> > > repository model:
> > > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> > >
> > > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes place
> on
> > > 2.
> > >
> > > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete? :-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > >
> >
>
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Brennan Ashton <ba...@brennanashton.com>.
Agreed it will just complicate things moving towards graduation. I had
asked for it to be taken down a long time ago.
--Brennan
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 7:10 AM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be deleted.
> It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything has been
> touched there in months.
>
> A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and applications
> that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF project.
> This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
>
> A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and it is
> not under the control of any project.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
>
> > Hello world :-)
> >
> > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> > repository model:
> > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> >
> > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes place on
> > 2.
> >
> > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete? :-)
> >
> > --
> > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> >
>
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Nathan Hartman <ha...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:27 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> Regarding kconfig-frontends I am in touch with Espressif and Debian
> maintainers, also contacted initial author Yann MORIN. Maybe putting
> this package into the Apache organization would be a good idea if
> possible..?
It occurred to me that if Yann MORIN doesn't want to maintain
kconfig-frontends then perhaps we could ask for a one-time SGA and
relicense; but then I think that kconfig was originally a Linux kernel
thing that Yann MORIN and/or perhaps others managed to separate from
the rest of the Linux build system and turn into a separate project.
If so, then it probably falls under GPL and I don't know whether it is
even feasible to relicense.
Let's wait to hear from Yann MORIN, who will hopefully respond to your
email, and see where to go from there.
There is also another possibility of asking ASF for permission to host
critical dependencies such as this and other tools under a separate
repo. Normally this isn't done but exceptions have been made for
projects with a long history and user base, e.g., Apache OpenOffice
has its own website, openoffice.org, rather than being under the
apache.org namespace. That was a specific exception for that project.
Nathan
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info>.
Removing is one time destructive operation. Something may be still
necessary from there.
Archiving with a redirect message seems safer solution, it will be
still available to read/download but no updates, then things could be
removed after careful examination if/when necessary :-)
Tomek
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 5:58 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know what to do with the submodule repositories: Documentation,
> configs, and arch. Should these be retained online somewhere so that those
> very old releases could be built?
>
> Those directories were originally part of nuttx/, then moved to submodules,
> then later merged back under nuttx/. This makes the git history very
> confusing for that period of time. I don't know what would happen if you
> tried to checkout a version from that time and tried to build it.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 9:45 AM Abdelatif Guettouche <
> abdelatif.guettouche@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > BTW the version of the OS we have there, is _very_ old. The description
> > says:
> >
> > > This is an old snapshot of NuttX from when arch/, configs/, and
> > Documentation/ were submodules
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 5:43 PM Abdelatif Guettouche
> > <ab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I can access it and deleting it is a click away (provided that Github
> > > doesn't ask for every members approval)
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 5:17 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just tried accessing github.com/nuttx and it appears that I can no
> > longer
> > > > see project information. I don't know what is going on with those
> > > > repositories.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 9:09 AM Abdelatif Guettouche <
> > > > abdelatif.guettouche@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > People who have admin access to that org are all committers/PPMC
> > members.
> > > > > If we want to take it down we can do that.
> > > > > As Greg mentioned earlier, that was supposed to host GPL repos and
> > the os
> > > > > and apps version there are outdated.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 16:53 Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have contacted GitHub support in that matter. Maybe taking
> > ownership
> > > > > > of that org / repo will be possible.
> > > > > > Tomek
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:39 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The project never was at that location, https://github.com/NuttX
> > .
> > > > > > > Everything there is of uncertain lineage and uncertain and
> > should just
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > removed or converted to mirrors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Prior to moving to https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx*,
> > the
> > > > > > project
> > > > > > > was on bitbucket at https://bitbucket.org/nuttx/. The remaining
> > > > > > > repositories there are the only ones that need to be retained.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 8:27 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maybe you could re-gain access Gregory manage users and put it
> > in an
> > > > > > > > "archived state" with a note that the project moved to Apache
> > > > > > > > organization? :-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That way nothing will be deleted, while note on new upstream
> > will
> > > > > > > > redirect users to a new place decreasing confusion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is a chance that someone still may want to use current
> > > > > > > > repository, or you may want to use it in future in that case
> > > > > > > > "archiving" will prevent name / ownership takeover.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regarding kconfig-frontends I am in touch with Espressif and
> > Debian
> > > > > > > > maintainers, also contacted initial author Yann MORIN. Maybe
> > putting
> > > > > > > > this package into the Apache organization would be a good idea
> > if
> > > > > > > > possible..?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks :-)
> > > > > > > > Tomek
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Gregory Nutt <
> > spudaneco@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and
> > should be
> > > > > > > > deleted.
> > > > > > > > > It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think
> > anything
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > touched there in months.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools
> > and
> > > > > > > > applications
> > > > > > > > > that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with
> > the ASF
> > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > > This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be
> > supported,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A problem now is that many people have access to the
> > repository and
> > > > > > it is
> > > > > > > > > not under the control of any project.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <
> > tomek@cedro.info>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hello world :-)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is
> > the dual
> > > > > > > > > > repository model:
> > > > > > > > > > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > > > > > > > > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development
> > takes
> > > > > > place
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is
> > complete?
> > > > > :-)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> >
--
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>.
I don't know what to do with the submodule repositories: Documentation,
configs, and arch. Should these be retained online somewhere so that those
very old releases could be built?
Those directories were originally part of nuttx/, then moved to submodules,
then later merged back under nuttx/. This makes the git history very
confusing for that period of time. I don't know what would happen if you
tried to checkout a version from that time and tried to build it.
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 9:45 AM Abdelatif Guettouche <
abdelatif.guettouche@gmail.com> wrote:
> BTW the version of the OS we have there, is _very_ old. The description
> says:
>
> > This is an old snapshot of NuttX from when arch/, configs/, and
> Documentation/ were submodules
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 5:43 PM Abdelatif Guettouche
> <ab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I can access it and deleting it is a click away (provided that Github
> > doesn't ask for every members approval)
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 5:17 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just tried accessing github.com/nuttx and it appears that I can no
> longer
> > > see project information. I don't know what is going on with those
> > > repositories.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 9:09 AM Abdelatif Guettouche <
> > > abdelatif.guettouche@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > People who have admin access to that org are all committers/PPMC
> members.
> > > > If we want to take it down we can do that.
> > > > As Greg mentioned earlier, that was supposed to host GPL repos and
> the os
> > > > and apps version there are outdated.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 16:53 Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have contacted GitHub support in that matter. Maybe taking
> ownership
> > > > > of that org / repo will be possible.
> > > > > Tomek
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:39 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The project never was at that location, https://github.com/NuttX
> .
> > > > > > Everything there is of uncertain lineage and uncertain and
> should just
> > > > be
> > > > > > removed or converted to mirrors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Prior to moving to https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx*,
> the
> > > > > project
> > > > > > was on bitbucket at https://bitbucket.org/nuttx/. The remaining
> > > > > > repositories there are the only ones that need to be retained.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 8:27 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe you could re-gain access Gregory manage users and put it
> in an
> > > > > > > "archived state" with a note that the project moved to Apache
> > > > > > > organization? :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That way nothing will be deleted, while note on new upstream
> will
> > > > > > > redirect users to a new place decreasing confusion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is a chance that someone still may want to use current
> > > > > > > repository, or you may want to use it in future in that case
> > > > > > > "archiving" will prevent name / ownership takeover.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding kconfig-frontends I am in touch with Espressif and
> Debian
> > > > > > > maintainers, also contacted initial author Yann MORIN. Maybe
> putting
> > > > > > > this package into the Apache organization would be a good idea
> if
> > > > > > > possible..?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks :-)
> > > > > > > Tomek
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Gregory Nutt <
> spudaneco@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and
> should be
> > > > > > > deleted.
> > > > > > > > It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think
> anything
> > > > has
> > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > touched there in months.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools
> and
> > > > > > > applications
> > > > > > > > that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with
> the ASF
> > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be
> supported,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A problem now is that many people have access to the
> repository and
> > > > > it is
> > > > > > > > not under the control of any project.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <
> tomek@cedro.info>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello world :-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is
> the dual
> > > > > > > > > repository model:
> > > > > > > > > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > > > > > > > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development
> takes
> > > > > place
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is
> complete?
> > > > :-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > >
> > > >
>
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Abdelatif Guettouche <ab...@gmail.com>.
BTW the version of the OS we have there, is _very_ old. The description says:
> This is an old snapshot of NuttX from when arch/, configs/, and Documentation/ were submodules
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 5:43 PM Abdelatif Guettouche
<ab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I can access it and deleting it is a click away (provided that Github
> doesn't ask for every members approval)
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 5:17 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I just tried accessing github.com/nuttx and it appears that I can no longer
> > see project information. I don't know what is going on with those
> > repositories.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 9:09 AM Abdelatif Guettouche <
> > abdelatif.guettouche@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > People who have admin access to that org are all committers/PPMC members.
> > > If we want to take it down we can do that.
> > > As Greg mentioned earlier, that was supposed to host GPL repos and the os
> > > and apps version there are outdated.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 16:53 Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have contacted GitHub support in that matter. Maybe taking ownership
> > > > of that org / repo will be possible.
> > > > Tomek
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:39 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The project never was at that location, https://github.com/NuttX.
> > > > > Everything there is of uncertain lineage and uncertain and should just
> > > be
> > > > > removed or converted to mirrors.
> > > > >
> > > > > Prior to moving to https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx*, the
> > > > project
> > > > > was on bitbucket at https://bitbucket.org/nuttx/. The remaining
> > > > > repositories there are the only ones that need to be retained.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 8:27 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe you could re-gain access Gregory manage users and put it in an
> > > > > > "archived state" with a note that the project moved to Apache
> > > > > > organization? :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That way nothing will be deleted, while note on new upstream will
> > > > > > redirect users to a new place decreasing confusion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is a chance that someone still may want to use current
> > > > > > repository, or you may want to use it in future in that case
> > > > > > "archiving" will prevent name / ownership takeover.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regarding kconfig-frontends I am in touch with Espressif and Debian
> > > > > > maintainers, also contacted initial author Yann MORIN. Maybe putting
> > > > > > this package into the Apache organization would be a good idea if
> > > > > > possible..?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks :-)
> > > > > > Tomek
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be
> > > > > > deleted.
> > > > > > > It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything
> > > has
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > touched there in months.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and
> > > > > > applications
> > > > > > > that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF
> > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and
> > > > it is
> > > > > > > not under the control of any project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello world :-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> > > > > > > > repository model:
> > > > > > > > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > > > > > > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes
> > > > place
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete?
> > > :-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > >
> > >
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Abdelatif Guettouche <ab...@gmail.com>.
I can access it and deleting it is a click away (provided that Github
doesn't ask for every members approval)
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 5:17 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just tried accessing github.com/nuttx and it appears that I can no longer
> see project information. I don't know what is going on with those
> repositories.
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 9:09 AM Abdelatif Guettouche <
> abdelatif.guettouche@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > People who have admin access to that org are all committers/PPMC members.
> > If we want to take it down we can do that.
> > As Greg mentioned earlier, that was supposed to host GPL repos and the os
> > and apps version there are outdated.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 16:53 Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> >
> > > I have contacted GitHub support in that matter. Maybe taking ownership
> > > of that org / repo will be possible.
> > > Tomek
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:39 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The project never was at that location, https://github.com/NuttX.
> > > > Everything there is of uncertain lineage and uncertain and should just
> > be
> > > > removed or converted to mirrors.
> > > >
> > > > Prior to moving to https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx*, the
> > > project
> > > > was on bitbucket at https://bitbucket.org/nuttx/. The remaining
> > > > repositories there are the only ones that need to be retained.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 8:27 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Maybe you could re-gain access Gregory manage users and put it in an
> > > > > "archived state" with a note that the project moved to Apache
> > > > > organization? :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > That way nothing will be deleted, while note on new upstream will
> > > > > redirect users to a new place decreasing confusion.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a chance that someone still may want to use current
> > > > > repository, or you may want to use it in future in that case
> > > > > "archiving" will prevent name / ownership takeover.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding kconfig-frontends I am in touch with Espressif and Debian
> > > > > maintainers, also contacted initial author Yann MORIN. Maybe putting
> > > > > this package into the Apache organization would be a good idea if
> > > > > possible..?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks :-)
> > > > > Tomek
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be
> > > > > deleted.
> > > > > > It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything
> > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > > touched there in months.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and
> > > > > applications
> > > > > > that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF
> > > > > project.
> > > > > > This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and
> > > it is
> > > > > > not under the control of any project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello world :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> > > > > > > repository model:
> > > > > > > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > > > > > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes
> > > place
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete?
> > :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > >
> >
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>.
I just tried accessing github.com/nuttx and it appears that I can no longer
see project information. I don't know what is going on with those
repositories.
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 9:09 AM Abdelatif Guettouche <
abdelatif.guettouche@gmail.com> wrote:
> People who have admin access to that org are all committers/PPMC members.
> If we want to take it down we can do that.
> As Greg mentioned earlier, that was supposed to host GPL repos and the os
> and apps version there are outdated.
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 16:53 Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
>
> > I have contacted GitHub support in that matter. Maybe taking ownership
> > of that org / repo will be possible.
> > Tomek
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:39 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > The project never was at that location, https://github.com/NuttX.
> > > Everything there is of uncertain lineage and uncertain and should just
> be
> > > removed or converted to mirrors.
> > >
> > > Prior to moving to https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx*, the
> > project
> > > was on bitbucket at https://bitbucket.org/nuttx/. The remaining
> > > repositories there are the only ones that need to be retained.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 8:27 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Maybe you could re-gain access Gregory manage users and put it in an
> > > > "archived state" with a note that the project moved to Apache
> > > > organization? :-)
> > > >
> > > > That way nothing will be deleted, while note on new upstream will
> > > > redirect users to a new place decreasing confusion.
> > > >
> > > > There is a chance that someone still may want to use current
> > > > repository, or you may want to use it in future in that case
> > > > "archiving" will prevent name / ownership takeover.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding kconfig-frontends I am in touch with Espressif and Debian
> > > > maintainers, also contacted initial author Yann MORIN. Maybe putting
> > > > this package into the Apache organization would be a good idea if
> > > > possible..?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks :-)
> > > > Tomek
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be
> > > > deleted.
> > > > > It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything
> has
> > > > been
> > > > > touched there in months.
> > > > >
> > > > > A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and
> > > > applications
> > > > > that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF
> > > > project.
> > > > > This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
> > > > >
> > > > > A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and
> > it is
> > > > > not under the control of any project.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello world :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> > > > > > repository model:
> > > > > > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > > > > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes
> > place
> > > > on
> > > > > > 2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete?
> :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> >
>
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Abdelatif Guettouche <ab...@gmail.com>.
People who have admin access to that org are all committers/PPMC members.
If we want to take it down we can do that.
As Greg mentioned earlier, that was supposed to host GPL repos and the os
and apps version there are outdated.
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 16:53 Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> I have contacted GitHub support in that matter. Maybe taking ownership
> of that org / repo will be possible.
> Tomek
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:39 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The project never was at that location, https://github.com/NuttX.
> > Everything there is of uncertain lineage and uncertain and should just be
> > removed or converted to mirrors.
> >
> > Prior to moving to https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx*, the
> project
> > was on bitbucket at https://bitbucket.org/nuttx/. The remaining
> > repositories there are the only ones that need to be retained.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 8:27 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe you could re-gain access Gregory manage users and put it in an
> > > "archived state" with a note that the project moved to Apache
> > > organization? :-)
> > >
> > > That way nothing will be deleted, while note on new upstream will
> > > redirect users to a new place decreasing confusion.
> > >
> > > There is a chance that someone still may want to use current
> > > repository, or you may want to use it in future in that case
> > > "archiving" will prevent name / ownership takeover.
> > >
> > > Regarding kconfig-frontends I am in touch with Espressif and Debian
> > > maintainers, also contacted initial author Yann MORIN. Maybe putting
> > > this package into the Apache organization would be a good idea if
> > > possible..?
> > >
> > > Thanks :-)
> > > Tomek
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be
> > > deleted.
> > > > It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything has
> > > been
> > > > touched there in months.
> > > >
> > > > A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and
> > > applications
> > > > that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF
> > > project.
> > > > This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
> > > >
> > > > A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and
> it is
> > > > not under the control of any project.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello world :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> > > > > repository model:
> > > > > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > > > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> > > > >
> > > > > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes
> place
> > > on
> > > > > 2.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete? :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info>.
I have contacted GitHub support in that matter. Maybe taking ownership
of that org / repo will be possible.
Tomek
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:39 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The project never was at that location, https://github.com/NuttX.
> Everything there is of uncertain lineage and uncertain and should just be
> removed or converted to mirrors.
>
> Prior to moving to https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx*, the project
> was on bitbucket at https://bitbucket.org/nuttx/. The remaining
> repositories there are the only ones that need to be retained.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 8:27 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
>
> > Maybe you could re-gain access Gregory manage users and put it in an
> > "archived state" with a note that the project moved to Apache
> > organization? :-)
> >
> > That way nothing will be deleted, while note on new upstream will
> > redirect users to a new place decreasing confusion.
> >
> > There is a chance that someone still may want to use current
> > repository, or you may want to use it in future in that case
> > "archiving" will prevent name / ownership takeover.
> >
> > Regarding kconfig-frontends I am in touch with Espressif and Debian
> > maintainers, also contacted initial author Yann MORIN. Maybe putting
> > this package into the Apache organization would be a good idea if
> > possible..?
> >
> > Thanks :-)
> > Tomek
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be
> > deleted.
> > > It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything has
> > been
> > > touched there in months.
> > >
> > > A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and
> > applications
> > > that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF
> > project.
> > > This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
> > >
> > > A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and it is
> > > not under the control of any project.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello world :-)
> > > >
> > > > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> > > > repository model:
> > > > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> > > >
> > > > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes place
> > on
> > > > 2.
> > > >
> > > > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete? :-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> >
--
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>.
The project never was at that location, https://github.com/NuttX.
Everything there is of uncertain lineage and uncertain and should just be
removed or converted to mirrors.
Prior to moving to https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx*, the project
was on bitbucket at https://bitbucket.org/nuttx/. The remaining
repositories there are the only ones that need to be retained.
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 8:27 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> Maybe you could re-gain access Gregory manage users and put it in an
> "archived state" with a note that the project moved to Apache
> organization? :-)
>
> That way nothing will be deleted, while note on new upstream will
> redirect users to a new place decreasing confusion.
>
> There is a chance that someone still may want to use current
> repository, or you may want to use it in future in that case
> "archiving" will prevent name / ownership takeover.
>
> Regarding kconfig-frontends I am in touch with Espressif and Debian
> maintainers, also contacted initial author Yann MORIN. Maybe putting
> this package into the Apache organization would be a good idea if
> possible..?
>
> Thanks :-)
> Tomek
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be
> deleted.
> > It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything has
> been
> > touched there in months.
> >
> > A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and
> applications
> > that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF
> project.
> > This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
> >
> > A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and it is
> > not under the control of any project.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello world :-)
> > >
> > > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> > > repository model:
> > > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> > >
> > > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes place
> on
> > > 2.
> > >
> > > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete? :-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info>.
Maybe you could re-gain access Gregory manage users and put it in an
"archived state" with a note that the project moved to Apache
organization? :-)
That way nothing will be deleted, while note on new upstream will
redirect users to a new place decreasing confusion.
There is a chance that someone still may want to use current
repository, or you may want to use it in future in that case
"archiving" will prevent name / ownership takeover.
Regarding kconfig-frontends I am in touch with Espressif and Debian
maintainers, also contacted initial author Yann MORIN. Maybe putting
this package into the Apache organization would be a good idea if
possible..?
Thanks :-)
Tomek
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be deleted.
> It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything has been
> touched there in months.
>
> A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and applications
> that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF project.
> This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
>
> A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and it is
> not under the control of any project.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
>
> > Hello world :-)
> >
> > Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> > repository model:
> > 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> > 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
> >
> > There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes place on
> > 2.
> >
> > Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete? :-)
> >
> > --
> > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> >
--
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
Re: github nuttx/nuttx vs apache/incubator-nuttx
Posted by Gregory Nutt <sp...@gmail.com>.
No, https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx is just garbage and should be deleted.
It has nothing to do with Apache NuttX and I don't think anything has been
touched there in months.
A thought was that this could be a place to keep GPL tools and applications
that are needed with NuttX but that are incompatible with the ASF project.
This is where a tool like kconfig-frontends could be supported,
A problem now is that many people have access to the repository and it is
not under the control of any project.
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 7:53 AM Tomasz CEDRO <to...@cedro.info> wrote:
> Hello world :-)
>
> Another thing I found confusing a bit for a newcomer is the dual
> repository model:
> 1. https://github.com/NuttX/nuttx
> 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx
>
> There is not information or redirect on 1 that development takes place on
> 2.
>
> Is 2 going to become 1 back again when incubation is complete? :-)
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>