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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Vadim Gritsenko <vg...@hns.com> on 2001/07/27 22:01:23 UTC
FW: [VOTE?] RE: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
Oops! Sent to wrong list!
So, what's the public opinion on this?
Vadim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:vgritsenko@hns.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 2:44 PM
> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> Subject: [VOTE?] RE: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
>
>
> I added show-time parameter to web.xml in HEAD branch.
> (This preserves existing functionality of cocoon-showtime parameter which is given higher priority)
>
> Shall we add this parameter to 2.0 also?
>
>
> Vadim
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:cziegeler@sundn.de]
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 11:40 AM
> > To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org; Cocoon-Dev@Xml. Apache. Org
> > Subject: AW: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
> >
> >
> > No, this is not possible. You must (currently) specify this parameter
> > to each request, so you can get the processing time for one specific
> > request, but not for all.
> >
> > I forward this email to the developers mailing list:
> >
> > Is this usefull for C2? Perhaps can someone enlighten us, why
> > the approach with the special request parameter was choosen when
> > this was designed and not a configuration parameter?
> >
> > Carsten
> >
> > Open Source Group sunShine - b:Integrated
> > ================================================================
> > Carsten Ziegeler, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn
> > www.sundn.de mailto: cziegeler@sundn.de
> > ================================================================
> >
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Dinkar Ganti [mailto:dinkarg@lifeconnect.com]
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juli 2001 17:41
> > > An: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> > > Betreff: RE: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
> > >
> > >
> > > Can the parameter be added to the web.xml file. I tried adding
> > > the following
> > > lines, but they did not show the processing times.
> > >
> > > <init-param>
> > > <param-name>cocoon-showtime</param-name>
> > > <param-value>true</param-value>
> > > </init-param>
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Dinkar
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:cziegeler@sundn.de]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 9:47 AM
> > > To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> > > Subject: AW: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
> > >
> > >
> > > Just append the parameter "cocoon-showtime" to your request,
> > > e.g http://server/cocoon/welcome?cocoon-showtime=true and C2
> > > will add the time add the end of the file.
> > >
> > > Carsten
> > >
> > > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > > > Von: Rajkumar, Joseph [mailto:rajkumar@orionsci.com]
> > > > Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juli 2001 15:44
> > > > An: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> > > > Betreff: Re: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > > Yes, I miss that feature also in the C2.0-Beta and would appreciate
> > > > knowing how to turn it on.
> > > >
> > > > Also with C1, the line number containing an offending syntax in
> > > > the xml file was displayed so I could quickly fix that. Now with
> > > > the C2, if there is a missing "quote" in the xml file, I don't
> > > know where
> > > >
> > > > to look for the offending line except in the xml file itself. C1 and its
> > > > the xalan it used gave me the exact line number of the offending
> > > > statement.
> > > >
> > > > If there is some way I could turn on that feature that would be great.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Joseph Rajkumar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "C. Gaffga" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is it possible to have the processing Time as a comment in
> > > > > the output in cocoon2 like it was in cocoon1.8.
> > > > >
> > > > > It was a nice feature to have a look on performence without
> > > > > looking to the logfile.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm using cocoon2.1-dev from today.
> > > > >
> > > > > Christoph Gaffga
> > > > >
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RE: FW: [VOTE?] RE: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
Posted by giacomo <gi...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 4:15 PM
> > To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: FW: [VOTE?] RE: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
> >
> >
> > Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > >
> > > Oops! Sent to wrong list!
> > >
> > > So, what's the public opinion on this?
> >
> > Uh, personally I like seeing the times in the log file. That makes it much
> > easier to keep a track of how long a page processed, as well as gleaning
> > average vs. peak times (i.e. when the JVM is garbage collecting).
>
> I agree that this is personally :)
>
>
> >
> > With that ability, the request time embedded in the file I don't like.
>
> It's turned off by default. Many users get used to it - may be they like this?
One cool thing was to find cocoon site through Google and alike
searching for the processing time string :)
Giacomo
>
>
> > Keep in mind that this also affects binary files (something that Cocoon 1
> > safely ignored).
> >
> > Unless you intend to filter on mime-type I don't recommend embedding it
> > for all requests.
>
> I will add test for "text/".
>
> Vadim
>
> >
> > > > I added show-time parameter to web.xml in HEAD branch.
> > > > (This preserves existing functionality of cocoon-showtime parameter which is given higher priority)
> > > >
> > > > Shall we add this parameter to 2.0 also?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Vadim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:cziegeler@sundn.de]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 11:40 AM
> > > > > To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org; Cocoon-Dev@Xml. Apache. Org
> > > > > Subject: AW: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No, this is not possible. You must (currently) specify this parameter
> > > > > to each request, so you can get the processing time for one specific
> > > > > request, but not for all.
> > > > >
> > > > > I forward this email to the developers mailing list:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this usefull for C2? Perhaps can someone enlighten us, why
> > > > > the approach with the special request parameter was choosen when
> > > > > this was designed and not a configuration parameter?
> > > > >
> > > > > Carsten
> > > > >
> > > > > Open Source Group sunShine - b:Integrated
> > > > > ================================================================
> > > > > Carsten Ziegeler, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn
> > > > > www.sundn.de mailto: cziegeler@sundn.de
> > > > > ================================================================
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > > Von: Dinkar Ganti [mailto:dinkarg@lifeconnect.com]
> > > > > > Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juli 2001 17:41
> > > > > > An: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> > > > > > Betreff: RE: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can the parameter be added to the web.xml file. I tried adding
> > > > > > the following
> > > > > > lines, but they did not show the processing times.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <init-param>
> > > > > > <param-name>cocoon-showtime</param-name>
> > > > > > <param-value>true</param-value>
> > > > > > </init-param>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions?
> >
>
>
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RE: FW: [VOTE?] RE: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <vg...@hns.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 4:15 PM
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: FW: [VOTE?] RE: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
>
>
> Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> >
> > Oops! Sent to wrong list!
> >
> > So, what's the public opinion on this?
>
> Uh, personally I like seeing the times in the log file. That makes it much
> easier to keep a track of how long a page processed, as well as gleaning
> average vs. peak times (i.e. when the JVM is garbage collecting).
I agree that this is personally :)
>
> With that ability, the request time embedded in the file I don't like.
It's turned off by default. Many users get used to it - may be they like this?
> Keep in mind that this also affects binary files (something that Cocoon 1
> safely ignored).
>
> Unless you intend to filter on mime-type I don't recommend embedding it
> for all requests.
I will add test for "text/".
Vadim
>
> > > I added show-time parameter to web.xml in HEAD branch.
> > > (This preserves existing functionality of cocoon-showtime parameter which is given higher priority)
> > >
> > > Shall we add this parameter to 2.0 also?
> > >
> > >
> > > Vadim
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:cziegeler@sundn.de]
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 11:40 AM
> > > > To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org; Cocoon-Dev@Xml. Apache. Org
> > > > Subject: AW: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No, this is not possible. You must (currently) specify this parameter
> > > > to each request, so you can get the processing time for one specific
> > > > request, but not for all.
> > > >
> > > > I forward this email to the developers mailing list:
> > > >
> > > > Is this usefull for C2? Perhaps can someone enlighten us, why
> > > > the approach with the special request parameter was choosen when
> > > > this was designed and not a configuration parameter?
> > > >
> > > > Carsten
> > > >
> > > > Open Source Group sunShine - b:Integrated
> > > > ================================================================
> > > > Carsten Ziegeler, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn
> > > > www.sundn.de mailto: cziegeler@sundn.de
> > > > ================================================================
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > Von: Dinkar Ganti [mailto:dinkarg@lifeconnect.com]
> > > > > Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juli 2001 17:41
> > > > > An: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> > > > > Betreff: RE: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can the parameter be added to the web.xml file. I tried adding
> > > > > the following
> > > > > lines, but they did not show the processing times.
> > > > >
> > > > > <init-param>
> > > > > <param-name>cocoon-showtime</param-name>
> > > > > <param-value>true</param-value>
> > > > > </init-param>
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions?
>
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Re: FW: [VOTE?] RE: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
>
> Oops! Sent to wrong list!
>
> So, what's the public opinion on this?
Uh, personally I like seeing the times in the log file. That makes it much
easier to keep a track of how long a page processed, as well as gleaning
average vs. peak times (i.e. when the JVM is garbage collecting).
With that ability, the request time embedded in the file I don't like.
Keep in mind that this also affects binary files (something that Cocoon 1
safely ignored).
Unless you intend to filter on mime-type I don't recommend embedding it
for all requests.
> > I added show-time parameter to web.xml in HEAD branch.
> > (This preserves existing functionality of cocoon-showtime parameter which is given higher priority)
> >
> > Shall we add this parameter to 2.0 also?
> >
> >
> > Vadim
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:cziegeler@sundn.de]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 11:40 AM
> > > To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org; Cocoon-Dev@Xml. Apache. Org
> > > Subject: AW: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
> > >
> > >
> > > No, this is not possible. You must (currently) specify this parameter
> > > to each request, so you can get the processing time for one specific
> > > request, but not for all.
> > >
> > > I forward this email to the developers mailing list:
> > >
> > > Is this usefull for C2? Perhaps can someone enlighten us, why
> > > the approach with the special request parameter was choosen when
> > > this was designed and not a configuration parameter?
> > >
> > > Carsten
> > >
> > > Open Source Group sunShine - b:Integrated
> > > ================================================================
> > > Carsten Ziegeler, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn
> > > www.sundn.de mailto: cziegeler@sundn.de
> > > ================================================================
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > Von: Dinkar Ganti [mailto:dinkarg@lifeconnect.com]
> > > > Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juli 2001 17:41
> > > > An: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> > > > Betreff: RE: Processing Time in last line in C2 like in 1.8?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can the parameter be added to the web.xml file. I tried adding
> > > > the following
> > > > lines, but they did not show the processing times.
> > > >
> > > > <init-param>
> > > > <param-name>cocoon-showtime</param-name>
> > > > <param-value>true</param-value>
> > > > </init-param>
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions?
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