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[imap] Basic Website
http://james.apache.org/imap/
feedback welcomed
- robert
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Re: [imap] Basic Website
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org> wrote:
> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>> On 12/9/08, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Sorry to were not clear.. I meaned grouping jSPF and JDKIM ..
>>>
>>> But yeah grouping stuff together is a great idea.
>>
>> I like the idea of multiple classifications. For example jDKIM might
>> be classified under crypto, antispam and mailet. Pages would be
>> created for crypto and antispam describing James capabilities in this
>> area.
>
> Does this mean that classification only exists in the web and for svn
> they are all at the same level? Or a main classification exists also in
> svn and then additional classifications are added on the web?
just web
> I find that deep nesting in svn does not help browsing/searching things
> so I'm slightly toward a solution that give us a single folder in svn
> and groups on the web.
i'm agnostic about nesting in svn
> So the toplevel menu could be changed from products to categories, in a
> similar way:
>
> - server
> - containing only the server product, maybe with optional modules in
> future.
> - mailet
> - api
> - base
> - crypto
> - sieve
> - domainkey
> - mime4j
> - jsieve
> - protocols
> - imap
> ... (more to come)
> - antispam
> - jspf
> .... (domainkey/dkim/srs/bayes)
> - proofing
> - postage
> - mpt
>
> I don't like the mix between categories and products, expecially for
> mime4j and jsieve. Maybe they can be placed in a category too? Any idea?
possibly scripting for jsieve
not sure about mime4j
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Re: [imap] Basic Website
Posted by Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>.
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
> On 12/9/08, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Sorry to were not clear.. I meaned grouping jSPF and JDKIM ..
>>
>> But yeah grouping stuff together is a great idea.
>
> I like the idea of multiple classifications. For example jDKIM might
> be classified under crypto, antispam and mailet. Pages would be
> created for crypto and antispam describing James capabilities in this
> area.
Does this mean that classification only exists in the web and for svn
they are all at the same level? Or a main classification exists also in
svn and then additional classifications are added on the web?
I find that deep nesting in svn does not help browsing/searching things
so I'm slightly toward a solution that give us a single folder in svn
and groups on the web.
So the toplevel menu could be changed from products to categories, in a
similar way:
- server
- containing only the server product, maybe with optional modules in
future.
- mailet
- api
- base
- crypto
- sieve
- domainkey
- mime4j
- jsieve
- protocols
- imap
... (more to come)
- antispam
- jspf
.... (domainkey/dkim/srs/bayes)
- proofing
- postage
- mpt
I don't like the mix between categories and products, expecially for
mime4j and jsieve. Maybe they can be placed in a category too? Any idea?
Stefano
> Robert
>> Cheers,
>> Norman
>>
>> 2008/12/9 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>:
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would list jDKIM under jSPF.. And when jDKIM is complete we just
>>>> need to find some time to extract the bayesian stuff to provide a
>>>> complete set of antispam libs ;-)
>>> antispam sounds like a better title that jSPF. it could link to a sub
>>> site at http://james.apache.org/antispam to give a introduction to
>>> spam fighting with James.
>>>
>>> along those lines, postage and MPT are both proofing libraries. they
>>> could usefully be grouped. if any other protocols are factored out
>>> then IMAP would be grouped with other protocols.
>>>
>>> i would really like a inherited menu listing everything at James with
>>> (multiple) categorisation. there's a lot of stuff in James and one of
>>> the advantages of factoring libraries out is that it gives more
>>> visibility.
>>>
>>> - robert
>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Norma Maurer
>>>>
>>>> 2008/12/8 Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>:
>>>>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>>>>>> http://james.apache.org/imap/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> feedback welcomed
>>>>> The "IMAP" seems too small compared to our other logos, but this is a
>>>>> detail ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> We should start thinking how to deal with the expanding top level menu.
>>>>> At 800x600 this does no more fit the menu bar.
>>>>> =====================
>>>>> - JAMES Project
>>>>> - Server
>>>>> - Mailets
>>>>> - api
>>>>> - base
>>>>> - standard
>>>>> - crypto
>>>>> - jSPF
>>>>> - Mime4J
>>>>> - JSieve
>>>>> - Postage
>>>>> - IMAP
>>>>> - MPT
>>>>> - jDKIM ?
>>>>> ====================
>>>>>
>>>>> Stefano
>>>>>
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Re: [imap] Basic Website
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 12/9/08, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> Sorry to were not clear.. I meaned grouping jSPF and JDKIM ..
>
> But yeah grouping stuff together is a great idea.
I like the idea of multiple classifications. For example jDKIM might
be classified under crypto, antispam and mailet. Pages would be
created for crypto and antispam describing James capabilities in this
area.
Robert
>
> Cheers,
> Norman
>
> 2008/12/9 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>:
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would list jDKIM under jSPF.. And when jDKIM is complete we just
>>> need to find some time to extract the bayesian stuff to provide a
>>> complete set of antispam libs ;-)
>>
>> antispam sounds like a better title that jSPF. it could link to a sub
>> site at http://james.apache.org/antispam to give a introduction to
>> spam fighting with James.
>>
>> along those lines, postage and MPT are both proofing libraries. they
>> could usefully be grouped. if any other protocols are factored out
>> then IMAP would be grouped with other protocols.
>>
>> i would really like a inherited menu listing everything at James with
>> (multiple) categorisation. there's a lot of stuff in James and one of
>> the advantages of factoring libraries out is that it gives more
>> visibility.
>>
>> - robert
>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Norma Maurer
>>>
>>> 2008/12/8 Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>:
>>>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>>>>> http://james.apache.org/imap/
>>>>>
>>>>> feedback welcomed
>>>>
>>>> The "IMAP" seems too small compared to our other logos, but this is a
>>>> detail ;-)
>>>>
>>>> We should start thinking how to deal with the expanding top level menu.
>>>> At 800x600 this does no more fit the menu bar.
>>>> =====================
>>>> - JAMES Project
>>>> - Server
>>>> - Mailets
>>>> - api
>>>> - base
>>>> - standard
>>>> - crypto
>>>> - jSPF
>>>> - Mime4J
>>>> - JSieve
>>>> - Postage
>>>> - IMAP
>>>> - MPT
>>>> - jDKIM ?
>>>> ====================
>>>>
>>>> Stefano
>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: [imap] Basic Website
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>.
Sorry to were not clear.. I meaned grouping jSPF and JDKIM ..
But yeah grouping stuff together is a great idea.
Cheers,
Norman
2008/12/9 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would list jDKIM under jSPF.. And when jDKIM is complete we just
>> need to find some time to extract the bayesian stuff to provide a
>> complete set of antispam libs ;-)
>
> antispam sounds like a better title that jSPF. it could link to a sub
> site at http://james.apache.org/antispam to give a introduction to
> spam fighting with James.
>
> along those lines, postage and MPT are both proofing libraries. they
> could usefully be grouped. if any other protocols are factored out
> then IMAP would be grouped with other protocols.
>
> i would really like a inherited menu listing everything at James with
> (multiple) categorisation. there's a lot of stuff in James and one of
> the advantages of factoring libraries out is that it gives more
> visibility.
>
> - robert
>
>>
>> cheers,
>> Norma Maurer
>>
>> 2008/12/8 Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>:
>>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>>>> http://james.apache.org/imap/
>>>>
>>>> feedback welcomed
>>>
>>> The "IMAP" seems too small compared to our other logos, but this is a
>>> detail ;-)
>>>
>>> We should start thinking how to deal with the expanding top level menu.
>>> At 800x600 this does no more fit the menu bar.
>>> =====================
>>> - JAMES Project
>>> - Server
>>> - Mailets
>>> - api
>>> - base
>>> - standard
>>> - crypto
>>> - jSPF
>>> - Mime4J
>>> - JSieve
>>> - Postage
>>> - IMAP
>>> - MPT
>>> - jDKIM ?
>>> ====================
>>>
>>> Stefano
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [imap] Basic Website
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would list jDKIM under jSPF.. And when jDKIM is complete we just
> need to find some time to extract the bayesian stuff to provide a
> complete set of antispam libs ;-)
antispam sounds like a better title that jSPF. it could link to a sub
site at http://james.apache.org/antispam to give a introduction to
spam fighting with James.
along those lines, postage and MPT are both proofing libraries. they
could usefully be grouped. if any other protocols are factored out
then IMAP would be grouped with other protocols.
i would really like a inherited menu listing everything at James with
(multiple) categorisation. there's a lot of stuff in James and one of
the advantages of factoring libraries out is that it gives more
visibility.
- robert
>
> cheers,
> Norma Maurer
>
> 2008/12/8 Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>:
>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>>> http://james.apache.org/imap/
>>>
>>> feedback welcomed
>>
>> The "IMAP" seems too small compared to our other logos, but this is a
>> detail ;-)
>>
>> We should start thinking how to deal with the expanding top level menu.
>> At 800x600 this does no more fit the menu bar.
>> =====================
>> - JAMES Project
>> - Server
>> - Mailets
>> - api
>> - base
>> - standard
>> - crypto
>> - jSPF
>> - Mime4J
>> - JSieve
>> - Postage
>> - IMAP
>> - MPT
>> - jDKIM ?
>> ====================
>>
>> Stefano
>>
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>>
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Re: [imap] Basic Website
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>.
Hi,
I would list jDKIM under jSPF.. And when jDKIM is complete we just
need to find some time to extract the bayesian stuff to provide a
complete set of antispam libs ;-)
cheers,
Norma Maurer
2008/12/8 Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>:
> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>> http://james.apache.org/imap/
>>
>> feedback welcomed
>
> The "IMAP" seems too small compared to our other logos, but this is a
> detail ;-)
>
> We should start thinking how to deal with the expanding top level menu.
> At 800x600 this does no more fit the menu bar.
> =====================
> - JAMES Project
> - Server
> - Mailets
> - api
> - base
> - standard
> - crypto
> - jSPF
> - Mime4J
> - JSieve
> - Postage
> - IMAP
> - MPT
> - jDKIM ?
> ====================
>
> Stefano
>
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Re: [imap] Basic Website
Posted by Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>.
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
> http://james.apache.org/imap/
>
> feedback welcomed
The "IMAP" seems too small compared to our other logos, but this is a
detail ;-)
We should start thinking how to deal with the expanding top level menu.
At 800x600 this does no more fit the menu bar.
=====================
- JAMES Project
- Server
- Mailets
- api
- base
- standard
- crypto
- jSPF
- Mime4J
- JSieve
- Postage
- IMAP
- MPT
- jDKIM ?
====================
Stefano
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