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Posted to dev@tinkerpop.apache.org by Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com> on 2016/06/06 10:46:43 UTC
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I was thinking
that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the target week for
VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably helps to have
> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
>
> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache projects
> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include apache in
> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
>
> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to standard apache
> > releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we would have
> > burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm good to change
> > it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
> >
> > apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
> > apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
> >
> > or the full business:
> >
> > apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> > apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> >
> > i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look so bad to me
> > anymore.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug fixes in
> master/
> > > (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of internal
> > > changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
> > >
> > > > Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
> named
> > > > apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
> > > > something that should be done along with this release.
> > >
> > > There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the source code
> > which
> > > is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other distributions
> are
> > > gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep those
> > naming
> > > conventions as they are so they reflect what is being distributed.
> Thus,
> > I
> > > think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marko.
> > >
> > > http://markorodriguez.com
> > >
> > > On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
> named
> > > > apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
> > > > something that should be done along with this release.
> > > >
> > > > -- Jason
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > spmallette@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in witnessing the
> > the
> > > >>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to help out on
> an
> > > >>> upcoming release.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --Ted
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <velo.br@gmail.com
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the artifactId
> as
> > > >> well
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> > > >> spmallette@gmail.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The "-incubating" is
> > just
> > > >>> in
> > > >>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future releases.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
> > > >>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these releases look
> > > >> more
> > > >>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix somehow
> made
> > > >>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though they were
> not.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > > >>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3 and 3.2.1
> > > >>> and I
> > > >>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP powers to do
> a
> > > >>>>> release
> > > >>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our "current"
> > > >>>>>> distributions
> > > >>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>.
Here is the thing.
People threw out a bunch of PRs at the repo last minute like a bunch procrastinating diseased high schoolers who need to slap together their homework so they can go hang out with their friends. Either you do, you do right, and you do 10 thousands light years ahead of schedule or you don’t do at all. Procrastination is as sinful as suicide. You are asking a lot of the people around you — not only do you stress the process, but then others have to deal with your affairs. Like a corpse sitting contributing nothing — “thanks, let me now go deal with the estate, lawyers, getting a casket, buying flowers, consoling your widow… you nefariously, selfish human being.” (to get even, I’m going to defile your widow).
Don’t live in sin,
Marko.
http://markorodriguez.com
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We're down to just needing to merge:
>
> https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/351 (we need one more vote here
> for me to merge - i expect minor tweaks after merge as i test this week)
> https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/358 (judging from hipchat, looks
> like marko/ted are still tinkering on this)
>
> I think we really need to get this issue fixed during code freeze week:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-1360
>
> it's breaking my builds quite regularly on one of my systems.
>
> Note that I've built both master and tp31 with full integration tests as of
> this morning and both look good.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Here's our status on the eve of code freeze:
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/356 (i'm going to merge that
>> shortly after finishing a merge of tp31 to master i'm testing now)
>> https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/358 (still under review - marko
>> seems to be digging through that one with ted)
>> https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/351 (still under review - but
>> close to being done)
>>
>> I would like to take a swipe at getting this one done this afternoon (if
>> it's easy):
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-1359
>>
>> I don't see much reason to hold up code freeze at this point from my
>> perspective. Let's try to finish up these last bits and move into testing
>> for next week.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sounds good and I will include benchmark numbers. I probably won't have
>>>> large scale Spark cluster #'s at the time of PR but maybe can get those
>>> out
>>>> during the freeze. I did have one question, should this work go into
>>> the
>>>> 3.1 line or just 3.2.x?
>>>
>>> Okay. There are some integration tests on MatchStep that consume a lot of
>>> memory due to path-data. I think we can get a good idea of speed on Spark
>>> simply by how much faster the integration tests run! :) But, of course,
>>> large scale cluster testing would be awesome.
>>>
>>> Regarding 3.1.x or 3.2.x — it depends. I suspect the changes are pretty
>>> complex and thus, it would be best to put into 3.2.x only, but if not, then
>>> yes, target 3.1.x and up merge to 3.2.x. Up to you.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marko.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @Ted: When you get that PR out, I will immediately focus on reviewing
>>> it.
>>>>> Please make sure your branch has master/ merged into it so we know we
>>> know
>>>>> that if the code/design is good, then there won’t be any hiccups on
>>> merge.
>>>>>
>>>>> *** Also, benchmarks that dropping paths is “good” will be very
>>> important
>>>>> so hopefully you have that coming too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're starting to go through reviews now with some earnest. Unless
>>> there
>>>>>> are concerns, I think that we should target code freeze for Friday at
>>>>> this
>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quick update, I plan on getting a PR in late tonight or tomorrow
>>> morning
>>>>>>> for 1254.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Stephen Mallette <
>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the update Ted. We may need an extra day or two to clear
>>> up
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> other discussion on some of the other PRs - i don't think we can
>>> start
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> code freeze on Monday as I'd proposed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>> I had some time this week and made further progress on 1254. Still
>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>> out some kinks but I'll see how far I can get over the weekend.
>>> Have
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> good 4th.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Ted
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>>>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ted — I think we should get that work into the next release.
>>> Thus, if
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> need more time (reasonable amount), then I say we delay
>>> accordingly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NOTE: The Gremlin-Python stuff will not get into the next
>>> release. It
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> gotten really complex/powerful and is currently 100+ commits
>>> ahead of
>>>>>>>>>> master/ ! :) .. As such, given the gargantuan undertaking, we will
>>>>>>> save
>>>>>>>>>> this work for a future release.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze.
>>> Shooting
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it
>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>> like I
>>>>>>>>>>> won't make it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --Ted
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We
>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>>>> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in
>>> "right".
>>>>>>>> Are
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> any other open issues of importance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>>>>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my
>>>>>>>> plate
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> first half of this month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the
>>>>>>> target
>>>>>>>>> week
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <
>>>>>>> pluradj@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably
>>>>>>>> helps
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache
>>>>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even
>>> include
>>>>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to
>>>>>>> standard
>>>>>>>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the full business:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug
>>>>>>> fixes
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> master/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots
>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are
>>> supposed
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip.
>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the
>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should
>>> keep
>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being
>>>>>>>>> distributed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <
>>> pluradj@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are
>>> supposed
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip.
>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <
>>>>>>>> twilmes@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in
>>>>>>>>> witnessing
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upcoming release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Ted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
>>>>>>>>>>>> velo.br@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> artifactId
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The
>>>>>>>>> "-incubating"
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
>>>>>>>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these
>>>>>>>> releases
>>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix
>>>>>>>>> somehow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to
>>> 3.1.3
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP
>>>>>>> powers
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our
>>>>>>>>> "current"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>.
We're down to just needing to merge:
https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/351 (we need one more vote here
for me to merge - i expect minor tweaks after merge as i test this week)
https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/358 (judging from hipchat, looks
like marko/ted are still tinkering on this)
I think we really need to get this issue fixed during code freeze week:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-1360
it's breaking my builds quite regularly on one of my systems.
Note that I've built both master and tp31 with full integration tests as of
this morning and both look good.
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Here's our status on the eve of code freeze:
>
> https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/356 (i'm going to merge that
> shortly after finishing a merge of tp31 to master i'm testing now)
> https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/358 (still under review - marko
> seems to be digging through that one with ted)
> https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/351 (still under review - but
> close to being done)
>
> I would like to take a swipe at getting this one done this afternoon (if
> it's easy):
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-1359
>
> I don't see much reason to hold up code freeze at this point from my
> perspective. Let's try to finish up these last bits and move into testing
> for next week.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Sounds good and I will include benchmark numbers. I probably won't have
>> > large scale Spark cluster #'s at the time of PR but maybe can get those
>> out
>> > during the freeze. I did have one question, should this work go into
>> the
>> > 3.1 line or just 3.2.x?
>>
>> Okay. There are some integration tests on MatchStep that consume a lot of
>> memory due to path-data. I think we can get a good idea of speed on Spark
>> simply by how much faster the integration tests run! :) But, of course,
>> large scale cluster testing would be awesome.
>>
>> Regarding 3.1.x or 3.2.x — it depends. I suspect the changes are pretty
>> complex and thus, it would be best to put into 3.2.x only, but if not, then
>> yes, target 3.1.x and up merge to 3.2.x. Up to you.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marko.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Ted
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> @Ted: When you get that PR out, I will immediately focus on reviewing
>> it.
>> >> Please make sure your branch has master/ merged into it so we know we
>> know
>> >> that if the code/design is good, then there won’t be any hiccups on
>> merge.
>> >>
>> >> *** Also, benchmarks that dropping paths is “good” will be very
>> important
>> >> so hopefully you have that coming too.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Marko.
>> >>
>> >> http://markorodriguez.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> We're starting to go through reviews now with some earnest. Unless
>> there
>> >>> are concerns, I think that we should target code freeze for Friday at
>> >> this
>> >>> point.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Quick update, I plan on getting a PR in late tonight or tomorrow
>> morning
>> >>>> for 1254.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Ted
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Stephen Mallette <
>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks for the update Ted. We may need an extra day or two to clear
>> up
>> >>>> some
>> >>>>> other discussion on some of the other PRs - i don't think we can
>> start
>> >> a
>> >>>>> code freeze on Monday as I'd proposed.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>>>> I had some time this week and made further progress on 1254. Still
>> >>>>> working
>> >>>>>> out some kinks but I'll see how far I can get over the weekend.
>> Have
>> >> a
>> >>>>>> good 4th.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --Ted
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>> >>>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Ted — I think we should get that work into the next release.
>> Thus, if
>> >>>>> you
>> >>>>>>> need more time (reasonable amount), then I say we delay
>> accordingly.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> NOTE: The Gremlin-Python stuff will not get into the next
>> release. It
>> >>>>> has
>> >>>>>>> gotten really complex/powerful and is currently 100+ commits
>> ahead of
>> >>>>>>> master/ ! :) .. As such, given the gargantuan undertaking, we will
>> >>>> save
>> >>>>>>> this work for a future release.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>> Marko.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze.
>> Shooting
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>> finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it
>> >>>> looks
>> >>>>>>> like I
>> >>>>>>>> won't make it.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --Ted
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>> >>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We
>> have a
>> >>>>>>> number
>> >>>>>>>>> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get
>> >>>>> those
>> >>>>>>> all
>> >>>>>>>>> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python
>> >>>> for
>> >>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>>> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in
>> "right".
>> >>>>> Are
>> >>>>>>> there
>> >>>>>>>>> any other open issues of importance?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>> >>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my
>> >>>>> plate
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>> first half of this month.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>> >>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I
>> >>>> was
>> >>>>>>>>>> thinking
>> >>>>>>>>>>> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the
>> >>>> target
>> >>>>>> week
>> >>>>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>>>>> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <
>> >>>> pluradj@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably
>> >>>>> helps
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache
>> >>>>>> projects
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even
>> include
>> >>>>>> apache
>> >>>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
>> >>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to
>> >>>> standard
>> >>>>>>>>> apache
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we
>> >>>> would
>> >>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm
>> >>>> good
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>> change
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or the full business:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look
>> >>>> so
>> >>>>>> bad
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>> me
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>> >>>>>>>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug
>> >>>> fixes
>> >>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> master/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots
>> of
>> >>>>>>>>> internal
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are
>> supposed
>> >>>> to
>> >>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> named
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip.
>> Maybe
>> >>>>>> that's
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the
>> >>>> source
>> >>>>>>> code
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
>> >>>>>>>>> distributions
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> are
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should
>> keep
>> >>>>>> those
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> naming
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being
>> >>>>>> distributed.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thus,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <
>> pluradj@gmail.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are
>> supposed
>> >>>> to
>> >>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> named
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip.
>> Maybe
>> >>>>>> that's
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jason
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <
>> >>>>> twilmes@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in
>> >>>>>> witnessing
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to
>> >>>> help
>> >>>>>> out
>> >>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> an
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upcoming release.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Ted
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
>> >>>>>>>>> velo.br@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
>> >>>>>>>>> artifactId
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> as
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The
>> >>>>>> "-incubating"
>> >>>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
>> >>>>>>>>> releases.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these
>> >>>>> releases
>> >>>>>>>>> look
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix
>> >>>>>> somehow
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> made
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though
>> >>>> they
>> >>>>>> were
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> not.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to
>> 3.1.3
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> 3.2.1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP
>> >>>> powers
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> do
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our
>> >>>>>> "current"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>.
Here's our status on the eve of code freeze:
https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/356 (i'm going to merge that
shortly after finishing a merge of tp31 to master i'm testing now)
https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/358 (still under review - marko
seems to be digging through that one with ted)
https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/351 (still under review - but
close to being done)
I would like to take a swipe at getting this one done this afternoon (if
it's easy):
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-1359
I don't see much reason to hold up code freeze at this point from my
perspective. Let's try to finish up these last bits and move into testing
for next week.
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds good and I will include benchmark numbers. I probably won't have
> > large scale Spark cluster #'s at the time of PR but maybe can get those
> out
> > during the freeze. I did have one question, should this work go into the
> > 3.1 line or just 3.2.x?
>
> Okay. There are some integration tests on MatchStep that consume a lot of
> memory due to path-data. I think we can get a good idea of speed on Spark
> simply by how much faster the integration tests run! :) But, of course,
> large scale cluster testing would be awesome.
>
> Regarding 3.1.x or 3.2.x — it depends. I suspect the changes are pretty
> complex and thus, it would be best to put into 3.2.x only, but if not, then
> yes, target 3.1.x and up merge to 3.2.x. Up to you.
>
> Thanks,
> Marko.
>
>
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ted
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> @Ted: When you get that PR out, I will immediately focus on reviewing
> it.
> >> Please make sure your branch has master/ merged into it so we know we
> know
> >> that if the code/design is good, then there won’t be any hiccups on
> merge.
> >>
> >> *** Also, benchmarks that dropping paths is “good” will be very
> important
> >> so hopefully you have that coming too.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Marko.
> >>
> >> http://markorodriguez.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We're starting to go through reviews now with some earnest. Unless
> there
> >>> are concerns, I think that we should target code freeze for Friday at
> >> this
> >>> point.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Quick update, I plan on getting a PR in late tonight or tomorrow
> morning
> >>>> for 1254.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Ted
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> spmallette@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for the update Ted. We may need an extra day or two to clear
> up
> >>>> some
> >>>>> other discussion on some of the other PRs - i don't think we can
> start
> >> a
> >>>>> code freeze on Monday as I'd proposed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>> I had some time this week and made further progress on 1254. Still
> >>>>> working
> >>>>>> out some kinks but I'll see how far I can get over the weekend.
> Have
> >> a
> >>>>>> good 4th.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --Ted
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> >>>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ted — I think we should get that work into the next release. Thus,
> if
> >>>>> you
> >>>>>>> need more time (reasonable amount), then I say we delay
> accordingly.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> NOTE: The Gremlin-Python stuff will not get into the next release.
> It
> >>>>> has
> >>>>>>> gotten really complex/powerful and is currently 100+ commits ahead
> of
> >>>>>>> master/ ! :) .. As such, given the gargantuan undertaking, we will
> >>>> save
> >>>>>>> this work for a future release.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Marko.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze.
> Shooting
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>>> finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it
> >>>> looks
> >>>>>>> like I
> >>>>>>>> won't make it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --Ted
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We have
> a
> >>>>>>> number
> >>>>>>>>> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get
> >>>>> those
> >>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in "right".
> >>>>> Are
> >>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>> any other open issues of importance?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> >>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my
> >>>>> plate
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> first half of this month.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>> Marko.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I
> >>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>> thinking
> >>>>>>>>>>> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the
> >>>> target
> >>>>>> week
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <
> >>>> pluradj@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably
> >>>>> helps
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache
> >>>>>> projects
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include
> >>>>>> apache
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to
> >>>> standard
> >>>>>>>>> apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we
> >>>> would
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm
> >>>> good
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or the full business:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look
> >>>> so
> >>>>>> bad
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> >>>>>>>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug
> >>>> fixes
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> master/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots
> of
> >>>>>>>>> internal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> named
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
> >>>>>> that's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the
> >>>> source
> >>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
> >>>>>>>>> distributions
> >>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should
> keep
> >>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> naming
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being
> >>>>>> distributed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thus,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <
> pluradj@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> named
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
> >>>>>> that's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <
> >>>>> twilmes@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in
> >>>>>> witnessing
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to
> >>>> help
> >>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upcoming release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Ted
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
> >>>>>>>>> velo.br@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
> >>>>>>>>> artifactId
> >>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The
> >>>>>> "-incubating"
> >>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
> >>>>>>>>> releases.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these
> >>>>> releases
> >>>>>>>>> look
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix
> >>>>>> somehow
> >>>>>>>>>>>> made
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though
> >>>> they
> >>>>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>>>> not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> 3.2.1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP
> >>>> powers
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our
> >>>>>> "current"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
> On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds good and I will include benchmark numbers. I probably won't have
> large scale Spark cluster #'s at the time of PR but maybe can get those out
> during the freeze. I did have one question, should this work go into the
> 3.1 line or just 3.2.x?
Okay. There are some integration tests on MatchStep that consume a lot of memory due to path-data. I think we can get a good idea of speed on Spark simply by how much faster the integration tests run! :) But, of course, large scale cluster testing would be awesome.
Regarding 3.1.x or 3.2.x — it depends. I suspect the changes are pretty complex and thus, it would be best to put into 3.2.x only, but if not, then yes, target 3.1.x and up merge to 3.2.x. Up to you.
Thanks,
Marko.
>
> Thanks,
> Ted
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> @Ted: When you get that PR out, I will immediately focus on reviewing it.
>> Please make sure your branch has master/ merged into it so we know we know
>> that if the code/design is good, then there won’t be any hiccups on merge.
>>
>> *** Also, benchmarks that dropping paths is “good” will be very important
>> so hopefully you have that coming too.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marko.
>>
>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We're starting to go through reviews now with some earnest. Unless there
>>> are concerns, I think that we should target code freeze for Friday at
>> this
>>> point.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quick update, I plan on getting a PR in late tonight or tomorrow morning
>>>> for 1254.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the update Ted. We may need an extra day or two to clear up
>>>> some
>>>>> other discussion on some of the other PRs - i don't think we can start
>> a
>>>>> code freeze on Monday as I'd proposed.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> I had some time this week and made further progress on 1254. Still
>>>>> working
>>>>>> out some kinks but I'll see how far I can get over the weekend. Have
>> a
>>>>>> good 4th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Ted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ted — I think we should get that work into the next release. Thus, if
>>>>> you
>>>>>>> need more time (reasonable amount), then I say we delay accordingly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOTE: The Gremlin-Python stuff will not get into the next release. It
>>>>> has
>>>>>>> gotten really complex/powerful and is currently 100+ commits ahead of
>>>>>>> master/ ! :) .. As such, given the gargantuan undertaking, we will
>>>> save
>>>>>>> this work for a future release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze. Shooting
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it
>>>> looks
>>>>>>> like I
>>>>>>>> won't make it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --Ted
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We have a
>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get
>>>>> those
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python
>>>> for
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in "right".
>>>>> Are
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> any other open issues of importance?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my
>>>>> plate
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> first half of this month.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I
>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the
>>>> target
>>>>>> week
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <
>>>> pluradj@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably
>>>>> helps
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache
>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include
>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to
>>>> standard
>>>>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we
>>>> would
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm
>>>> good
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the full business:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look
>>>> so
>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>>>>>>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug
>>>> fixes
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> master/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of
>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed
>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the
>>>> source
>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
>>>>>>>>> distributions
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep
>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>> naming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being
>>>>>> distributed.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pluradj@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed
>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <
>>>>> twilmes@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in
>>>>>> witnessing
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to
>>>> help
>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upcoming release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Ted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
>>>>>>>>> velo.br@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
>>>>>>>>> artifactId
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The
>>>>>> "-incubating"
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
>>>>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these
>>>>> releases
>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix
>>>>>> somehow
>>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though
>>>> they
>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> 3.2.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP
>>>> powers
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our
>>>>>> "current"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good and I will include benchmark numbers. I probably won't have
large scale Spark cluster #'s at the time of PR but maybe can get those out
during the freeze. I did have one question, should this work go into the
3.1 line or just 3.2.x?
Thanks,
Ted
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> @Ted: When you get that PR out, I will immediately focus on reviewing it.
> Please make sure your branch has master/ merged into it so we know we know
> that if the code/design is good, then there won’t be any hiccups on merge.
>
> *** Also, benchmarks that dropping paths is “good” will be very important
> so hopefully you have that coming too.
>
> Thanks,
> Marko.
>
> http://markorodriguez.com
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > We're starting to go through reviews now with some earnest. Unless there
> > are concerns, I think that we should target code freeze for Friday at
> this
> > point.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Quick update, I plan on getting a PR in late tonight or tomorrow morning
> >> for 1254.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ted
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks for the update Ted. We may need an extra day or two to clear up
> >> some
> >>> other discussion on some of the other PRs - i don't think we can start
> a
> >>> code freeze on Monday as I'd proposed.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>> I had some time this week and made further progress on 1254. Still
> >>> working
> >>>> out some kinks but I'll see how far I can get over the weekend. Have
> a
> >>>> good 4th.
> >>>>
> >>>> --Ted
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> >> okrammarko@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ted — I think we should get that work into the next release. Thus, if
> >>> you
> >>>>> need more time (reasonable amount), then I say we delay accordingly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOTE: The Gremlin-Python stuff will not get into the next release. It
> >>> has
> >>>>> gotten really complex/powerful and is currently 100+ commits ahead of
> >>>>> master/ ! :) .. As such, given the gargantuan undertaking, we will
> >> save
> >>>>> this work for a future release.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Marko.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze. Shooting
> >>> for
> >>>>>> finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it
> >> looks
> >>>>> like I
> >>>>>> won't make it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --Ted
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We have a
> >>>>> number
> >>>>>>> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get
> >>> those
> >>>>> all
> >>>>>>> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python
> >> for
> >>>> this
> >>>>>>> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in "right".
> >>> Are
> >>>>> there
> >>>>>>> any other open issues of importance?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> >>> okrammarko@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my
> >>> plate
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> first half of this month.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Marko.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I
> >> was
> >>>>>>>> thinking
> >>>>>>>>> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the
> >> target
> >>>> week
> >>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <
> >> pluradj@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably
> >>> helps
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache
> >>>> projects
> >>>>>>>>>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include
> >>>> apache
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to
> >> standard
> >>>>>>> apache
> >>>>>>>>>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we
> >> would
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm
> >> good
> >>> to
> >>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> or the full business:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look
> >> so
> >>>> bad
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> me
> >>>>>>>>>>> anymore.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> >>>>>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug
> >> fixes
> >>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> master/
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of
> >>>>>>> internal
> >>>>>>>>>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed
> >> to
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> named
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
> >>>> that's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the
> >> source
> >>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
> >>>>>>> distributions
> >>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep
> >>>> those
> >>>>>>>>>>> naming
> >>>>>>>>>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being
> >>>> distributed.
> >>>>>>>>>> Thus,
> >>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pluradj@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed
> >> to
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> named
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
> >>>> that's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <
> >>> twilmes@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in
> >>>> witnessing
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to
> >> help
> >>>> out
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upcoming release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Ted
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
> >>>>>>> velo.br@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
> >>>>>>> artifactId
> >>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The
> >>>> "-incubating"
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
> >>>>>>> releases.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these
> >>> releases
> >>>>>>> look
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix
> >>>> somehow
> >>>>>>>>>> made
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though
> >> they
> >>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>> not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3
> >>> and
> >>>>>>> 3.2.1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP
> >> powers
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our
> >>>> "current"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>.
@Ted: When you get that PR out, I will immediately focus on reviewing it. Please make sure your branch has master/ merged into it so we know we know that if the code/design is good, then there won’t be any hiccups on merge.
*** Also, benchmarks that dropping paths is “good” will be very important so hopefully you have that coming too.
Thanks,
Marko.
http://markorodriguez.com
> On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We're starting to go through reviews now with some earnest. Unless there
> are concerns, I think that we should target code freeze for Friday at this
> point.
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Quick update, I plan on getting a PR in late tonight or tomorrow morning
>> for 1254.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ted
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the update Ted. We may need an extra day or two to clear up
>> some
>>> other discussion on some of the other PRs - i don't think we can start a
>>> code freeze on Monday as I'd proposed.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> I had some time this week and made further progress on 1254. Still
>>> working
>>>> out some kinks but I'll see how far I can get over the weekend. Have a
>>>> good 4th.
>>>>
>>>> --Ted
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted — I think we should get that work into the next release. Thus, if
>>> you
>>>>> need more time (reasonable amount), then I say we delay accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> NOTE: The Gremlin-Python stuff will not get into the next release. It
>>> has
>>>>> gotten really complex/powerful and is currently 100+ commits ahead of
>>>>> master/ ! :) .. As such, given the gargantuan undertaking, we will
>> save
>>>>> this work for a future release.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze. Shooting
>>> for
>>>>>> finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it
>> looks
>>>>> like I
>>>>>> won't make it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Ted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We have a
>>>>> number
>>>>>>> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get
>>> those
>>>>> all
>>>>>>> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python
>> for
>>>> this
>>>>>>> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in "right".
>>> Are
>>>>> there
>>>>>>> any other open issues of importance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>> okrammarko@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my
>>> plate
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> first half of this month.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I
>> was
>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the
>> target
>>>> week
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <
>> pluradj@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably
>>> helps
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache
>>>> projects
>>>>>>>>>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include
>>>> apache
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to
>> standard
>>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we
>> would
>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm
>> good
>>> to
>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or the full business:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look
>> so
>>>> bad
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>>>>>>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug
>> fixes
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> master/
>>>>>>>>>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of
>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed
>> to
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the
>> source
>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
>>>>>>> distributions
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep
>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> naming
>>>>>>>>>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being
>>>> distributed.
>>>>>>>>>> Thus,
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pluradj@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed
>> to
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <
>>> twilmes@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in
>>>> witnessing
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to
>> help
>>>> out
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upcoming release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Ted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
>>>>>>> velo.br@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
>>>>>>> artifactId
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The
>>>> "-incubating"
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
>>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these
>>> releases
>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix
>>>> somehow
>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though
>> they
>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3
>>> and
>>>>>>> 3.2.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP
>> powers
>>>> to
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our
>>>> "current"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>.
We're starting to go through reviews now with some earnest. Unless there
are concerns, I think that we should target code freeze for Friday at this
point.
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Quick update, I plan on getting a PR in late tonight or tomorrow morning
> for 1254.
>
> Thanks,
> Ted
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the update Ted. We may need an extra day or two to clear up
> some
> > other discussion on some of the other PRs - i don't think we can start a
> > code freeze on Monday as I'd proposed.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > I had some time this week and made further progress on 1254. Still
> > working
> > > out some kinks but I'll see how far I can get over the weekend. Have a
> > > good 4th.
> > >
> > > --Ted
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> okrammarko@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Ted — I think we should get that work into the next release. Thus, if
> > you
> > > > need more time (reasonable amount), then I say we delay accordingly.
> > > >
> > > > NOTE: The Gremlin-Python stuff will not get into the next release. It
> > has
> > > > gotten really complex/powerful and is currently 100+ commits ahead of
> > > > master/ ! :) .. As such, given the gargantuan undertaking, we will
> save
> > > > this work for a future release.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Marko.
> > > >
> > > > http://markorodriguez.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze. Shooting
> > for
> > > > > finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it
> looks
> > > > like I
> > > > > won't make it.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Ted
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > > spmallette@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We have a
> > > > number
> > > > >> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get
> > those
> > > > all
> > > > >> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python
> for
> > > this
> > > > >> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in "right".
> > Are
> > > > there
> > > > >> any other open issues of importance?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> > okrammarko@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my
> > plate
> > > > the
> > > > >>> first half of this month.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > >>> Marko.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> http://markorodriguez.com
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > spmallette@gmail.com>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I
> was
> > > > >>> thinking
> > > > >>>> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the
> target
> > > week
> > > > >>> for
> > > > >>>> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <
> pluradj@gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably
> > helps
> > > to
> > > > >>> have
> > > > >>>>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache
> > > projects
> > > > >>>>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include
> > > apache
> > > > >> in
> > > > >>>>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> > > > >>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
> > > > >> spmallette@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to
> standard
> > > > >> apache
> > > > >>>>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we
> would
> > > > have
> > > > >>>>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm
> good
> > to
> > > > >>> change
> > > > >>>>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
> > > > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> or the full business:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> > > > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look
> so
> > > bad
> > > > >> to
> > > > >>> me
> > > > >>>>>> anymore.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> > > > >>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug
> fixes
> > in
> > > > >>>>> master/
> > > > >>>>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of
> > > > >> internal
> > > > >>>>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed
> to
> > > be
> > > > >>>>> named
> > > > >>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
> > > that's
> > > > >>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the
> source
> > > > code
> > > > >>>>>> which
> > > > >>>>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
> > > > >> distributions
> > > > >>>>> are
> > > > >>>>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep
> > > those
> > > > >>>>>> naming
> > > > >>>>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being
> > > distributed.
> > > > >>>>> Thus,
> > > > >>>>>> I
> > > > >>>>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>>>>> Marko.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pluradj@gmail.com
> >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed
> to
> > > be
> > > > >>>>> named
> > > > >>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
> > > that's
> > > > >>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> -- Jason
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > > > >>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <
> > twilmes@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in
> > > witnessing
> > > > >> the
> > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to
> help
> > > out
> > > > >> on
> > > > >>>>> an
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> upcoming release.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> --Ted
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
> > > > >> velo.br@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
> > > > >> artifactId
> > > > >>>>> as
> > > > >>>>>>>>> well
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> > > > >>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The
> > > "-incubating"
> > > > >> is
> > > > >>>>>> just
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
> > > > >> releases.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these
> > releases
> > > > >> look
> > > > >>>>>>>>> more
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix
> > > somehow
> > > > >>>>> made
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though
> they
> > > were
> > > > >>>>> not.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3
> > and
> > > > >> 3.2.1
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> and I
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP
> powers
> > > to
> > > > >> do
> > > > >>>>> a
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our
> > > "current"
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>.
Quick update, I plan on getting a PR in late tonight or tomorrow morning
for 1254.
Thanks,
Ted
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks for the update Ted. We may need an extra day or two to clear up some
> other discussion on some of the other PRs - i don't think we can start a
> code freeze on Monday as I'd proposed.
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> > I had some time this week and made further progress on 1254. Still
> working
> > out some kinks but I'll see how far I can get over the weekend. Have a
> > good 4th.
> >
> > --Ted
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Ted — I think we should get that work into the next release. Thus, if
> you
> > > need more time (reasonable amount), then I say we delay accordingly.
> > >
> > > NOTE: The Gremlin-Python stuff will not get into the next release. It
> has
> > > gotten really complex/powerful and is currently 100+ commits ahead of
> > > master/ ! :) .. As such, given the gargantuan undertaking, we will save
> > > this work for a future release.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marko.
> > >
> > > http://markorodriguez.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze. Shooting
> for
> > > > finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it looks
> > > like I
> > > > won't make it.
> > > >
> > > > --Ted
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > spmallette@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We have a
> > > number
> > > >> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get
> those
> > > all
> > > >> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
> > > >>
> > > >> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python for
> > this
> > > >> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in "right".
> Are
> > > there
> > > >> any other open issues of importance?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> okrammarko@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my
> plate
> > > the
> > > >>> first half of this month.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>> Marko.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://markorodriguez.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> spmallette@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I was
> > > >>> thinking
> > > >>>> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the target
> > week
> > > >>> for
> > > >>>> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably
> helps
> > to
> > > >>> have
> > > >>>>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache
> > projects
> > > >>>>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include
> > apache
> > > >> in
> > > >>>>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> > > >>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
> > > >> spmallette@gmail.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to standard
> > > >> apache
> > > >>>>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we would
> > > have
> > > >>>>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm good
> to
> > > >>> change
> > > >>>>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
> > > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> or the full business:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> > > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look so
> > bad
> > > >> to
> > > >>> me
> > > >>>>>> anymore.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> > > >>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Hi,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug fixes
> in
> > > >>>>> master/
> > > >>>>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of
> > > >> internal
> > > >>>>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to
> > be
> > > >>>>> named
> > > >>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
> > that's
> > > >>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the source
> > > code
> > > >>>>>> which
> > > >>>>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
> > > >> distributions
> > > >>>>> are
> > > >>>>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep
> > those
> > > >>>>>> naming
> > > >>>>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being
> > distributed.
> > > >>>>> Thus,
> > > >>>>>> I
> > > >>>>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>>>> Marko.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to
> > be
> > > >>>>> named
> > > >>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
> > that's
> > > >>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> -- Jason
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > > >>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <
> twilmes@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in
> > witnessing
> > > >> the
> > > >>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to help
> > out
> > > >> on
> > > >>>>> an
> > > >>>>>>>>>> upcoming release.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> --Ted
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
> > > >> velo.br@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
> > > >> artifactId
> > > >>>>> as
> > > >>>>>>>>> well
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> > > >>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The
> > "-incubating"
> > > >> is
> > > >>>>>> just
> > > >>>>>>>>>> in
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
> > > >> releases.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
> > > >>>>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these
> releases
> > > >> look
> > > >>>>>>>>> more
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix
> > somehow
> > > >>>>> made
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though they
> > were
> > > >>>>> not.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3
> and
> > > >> 3.2.1
> > > >>>>>>>>>> and I
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP powers
> > to
> > > >> do
> > > >>>>> a
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our
> > "current"
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the update Ted. We may need an extra day or two to clear up some
other discussion on some of the other PRs - i don't think we can start a
code freeze on Monday as I'd proposed.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I had some time this week and made further progress on 1254. Still working
> out some kinks but I'll see how far I can get over the weekend. Have a
> good 4th.
>
> --Ted
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ted — I think we should get that work into the next release. Thus, if you
> > need more time (reasonable amount), then I say we delay accordingly.
> >
> > NOTE: The Gremlin-Python stuff will not get into the next release. It has
> > gotten really complex/powerful and is currently 100+ commits ahead of
> > master/ ! :) .. As such, given the gargantuan undertaking, we will save
> > this work for a future release.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marko.
> >
> > http://markorodriguez.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze. Shooting for
> > > finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it looks
> > like I
> > > won't make it.
> > >
> > > --Ted
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> spmallette@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We have a
> > number
> > >> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get those
> > all
> > >> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
> > >>
> > >> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python for
> this
> > >> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in "right". Are
> > there
> > >> any other open issues of importance?
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <okrammarko@gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my plate
> > the
> > >>> first half of this month.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Marko.
> > >>>
> > >>> http://markorodriguez.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I was
> > >>> thinking
> > >>>> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the target
> week
> > >>> for
> > >>>> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably helps
> to
> > >>> have
> > >>>>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache
> projects
> > >>>>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include
> apache
> > >> in
> > >>>>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> > >>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
> > >> spmallette@gmail.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to standard
> > >> apache
> > >>>>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we would
> > have
> > >>>>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm good to
> > >>> change
> > >>>>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
> > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> or the full business:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> > >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look so
> bad
> > >> to
> > >>> me
> > >>>>>> anymore.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> > >>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug fixes in
> > >>>>> master/
> > >>>>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of
> > >> internal
> > >>>>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to
> be
> > >>>>> named
> > >>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
> that's
> > >>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the source
> > code
> > >>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
> > >> distributions
> > >>>>> are
> > >>>>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep
> those
> > >>>>>> naming
> > >>>>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being
> distributed.
> > >>>>> Thus,
> > >>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>> Marko.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to
> be
> > >>>>> named
> > >>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe
> that's
> > >>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -- Jason
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > >>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <twilmes@gmail.com
> >
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in
> witnessing
> > >> the
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to help
> out
> > >> on
> > >>>>> an
> > >>>>>>>>>> upcoming release.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> --Ted
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
> > >> velo.br@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
> > >> artifactId
> > >>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>> well
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> > >>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The
> "-incubating"
> > >> is
> > >>>>>> just
> > >>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
> > >> releases.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
> > >>>>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these releases
> > >> look
> > >>>>>>>>> more
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix
> somehow
> > >>>>> made
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though they
> were
> > >>>>> not.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > >>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3 and
> > >> 3.2.1
> > >>>>>>>>>> and I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP powers
> to
> > >> do
> > >>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our
> "current"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>.
Hi everyone,
I had some time this week and made further progress on 1254. Still working
out some kinks but I'll see how far I can get over the weekend. Have a
good 4th.
--Ted
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Ted — I think we should get that work into the next release. Thus, if you
> need more time (reasonable amount), then I say we delay accordingly.
>
> NOTE: The Gremlin-Python stuff will not get into the next release. It has
> gotten really complex/powerful and is currently 100+ commits ahead of
> master/ ! :) .. As such, given the gargantuan undertaking, we will save
> this work for a future release.
>
> Thanks,
> Marko.
>
> http://markorodriguez.com
>
>
>
> > On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze. Shooting for
> > finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it looks
> like I
> > won't make it.
> >
> > --Ted
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We have a
> number
> >> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get those
> all
> >> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
> >>
> >> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python for this
> >> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in "right". Are
> there
> >> any other open issues of importance?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my plate
> the
> >>> first half of this month.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Marko.
> >>>
> >>> http://markorodriguez.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I was
> >>> thinking
> >>>> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the target week
> >>> for
> >>>> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably helps to
> >>> have
> >>>>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache projects
> >>>>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include apache
> >> in
> >>>>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
> >> spmallette@gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to standard
> >> apache
> >>>>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we would
> have
> >>>>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm good to
> >>> change
> >>>>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> or the full business:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look so bad
> >> to
> >>> me
> >>>>>> anymore.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> >>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug fixes in
> >>>>> master/
> >>>>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of
> >> internal
> >>>>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
> >>>>> named
> >>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
> >>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the source
> code
> >>>>>> which
> >>>>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
> >> distributions
> >>>>> are
> >>>>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep those
> >>>>>> naming
> >>>>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being distributed.
> >>>>> Thus,
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Marko.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
> >>>>> named
> >>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
> >>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -- Jason
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in witnessing
> >> the
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to help out
> >> on
> >>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>>> upcoming release.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --Ted
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
> >> velo.br@gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
> >> artifactId
> >>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>> well
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The "-incubating"
> >> is
> >>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
> >> releases.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
> >>>>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these releases
> >> look
> >>>>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix somehow
> >>>>> made
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though they were
> >>>>> not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3 and
> >> 3.2.1
> >>>>>>>>>> and I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP powers to
> >> do
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our "current"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Ted — I think we should get that work into the next release. Thus, if you need more time (reasonable amount), then I say we delay accordingly.
NOTE: The Gremlin-Python stuff will not get into the next release. It has gotten really complex/powerful and is currently 100+ commits ahead of master/ ! :) .. As such, given the gargantuan undertaking, we will save this work for a future release.
Thanks,
Marko.
http://markorodriguez.com
> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze. Shooting for
> finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it looks like I
> won't make it.
>
> --Ted
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We have a number
>> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get those all
>> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
>>
>> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python for this
>> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in "right". Are there
>> any other open issues of importance?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my plate the
>>> first half of this month.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marko.
>>>
>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I was
>>> thinking
>>>> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the target week
>>> for
>>>> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably helps to
>>> have
>>>>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache projects
>>>>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include apache
>> in
>>>>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
>>>>>
>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to standard
>> apache
>>>>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we would have
>>>>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm good to
>>> change
>>>>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or the full business:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look so bad
>> to
>>> me
>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>> okrammarko@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug fixes in
>>>>> master/
>>>>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of
>> internal
>>>>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
>>>>> named
>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the source code
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
>> distributions
>>>>> are
>>>>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep those
>>>>>> naming
>>>>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being distributed.
>>>>> Thus,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
>>>>> named
>>>>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
>>>>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in witnessing
>> the
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to help out
>> on
>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> upcoming release.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --Ted
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
>> velo.br@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
>> artifactId
>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The "-incubating"
>> is
>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
>> releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
>>>>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these releases
>> look
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix somehow
>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though they were
>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3 and
>> 3.2.1
>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP powers to
>> do
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our "current"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>.
I would like to get TinkerPop-1254 in before code freeze. Shooting for
finishing it up by end of this week but I'll drop a note if it looks like I
won't make it.
--Ted
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We have a number
> of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get those all
> in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
>
> I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python for this
> release. There's just too much left to do to get that in "right". Are there
> any other open issues of importance?
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my plate the
> > first half of this month.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marko.
> >
> > http://markorodriguez.com
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I was
> > thinking
> > > that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the target week
> > for
> > > VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably helps to
> > have
> > >> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
> > >>
> > >> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache projects
> > >> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include apache
> in
> > >> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
> > >>
> > >> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> > >> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <
> spmallette@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to standard
> apache
> > >>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we would have
> > >>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm good to
> > change
> > >>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
> > >>>
> > >>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
> > >>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
> > >>>
> > >>> or the full business:
> > >>>
> > >>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> > >>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> > >>>
> > >>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look so bad
> to
> > me
> > >>> anymore.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> > okrammarko@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug fixes in
> > >> master/
> > >>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of
> internal
> > >>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
> > >> named
> > >>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
> > >>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the source code
> > >>> which
> > >>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other
> distributions
> > >> are
> > >>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep those
> > >>> naming
> > >>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being distributed.
> > >> Thus,
> > >>> I
> > >>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Marko.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
> > >> named
> > >>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
> > >>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -- Jason
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > >>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in witnessing
> the
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to help out
> on
> > >> an
> > >>>>>>> upcoming release.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --Ted
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <
> velo.br@gmail.com
> > >>>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the
> artifactId
> > >> as
> > >>>>>> well
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> > >>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The "-incubating"
> is
> > >>> just
> > >>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future
> releases.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
> > >>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these releases
> look
> > >>>>>> more
> > >>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix somehow
> > >> made
> > >>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though they were
> > >> not.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> > >>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3 and
> 3.2.1
> > >>>>>>> and I
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP powers to
> do
> > >> a
> > >>>>>>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our "current"
> > >>>>>>>>>> distributions
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>.
It's end of June - time to start firming up for release. We have a number
of outstanding PRs that need votes/merge. Perhaps we try to get those all
in this week and begin code freeze next Monday (7/4)?
I think we'll have to postpone the GLV work with gremlin-python for this
release. There's just too much left to do to get that in "right". Are there
any other open issues of importance?
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my plate the
> first half of this month.
>
> Thanks,
> Marko.
>
> http://markorodriguez.com
>
>
> > On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I was
> thinking
> > that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the target week
> for
> > VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
> >
> > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably helps to
> have
> >> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
> >>
> >> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache projects
> >> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include apache in
> >> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
> >>
> >> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> >> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <spmallette@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to standard apache
> >>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we would have
> >>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm good to
> change
> >>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
> >>>
> >>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
> >>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>>
> >>> or the full business:
> >>>
> >>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
> >>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
> >>>
> >>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look so bad to
> me
> >>> anymore.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
> okrammarko@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug fixes in
> >> master/
> >>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of internal
> >>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
> >>>>
> >>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
> >> named
> >>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
> >>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the source code
> >>> which
> >>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other distributions
> >> are
> >>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep those
> >>> naming
> >>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being distributed.
> >> Thus,
> >>> I
> >>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Marko.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://markorodriguez.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
> >> named
> >>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
> >>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Jason
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>> spmallette@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in witnessing the
> >>> the
> >>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to help out on
> >> an
> >>>>>>> upcoming release.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --Ted
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <velo.br@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the artifactId
> >> as
> >>>>>> well
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The "-incubating" is
> >>> just
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future releases.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
> >>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these releases look
> >>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix somehow
> >> made
> >>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though they were
> >> not.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3 and 3.2.1
> >>>>>>> and I
> >>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP powers to do
> >> a
> >>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our "current"
> >>>>>>>>>> distributions
> >>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Thinking on Release
Posted by Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>.
Yes, end of June-ish is best for me as I have few things on my plate the first half of this month.
Thanks,
Marko.
http://markorodriguez.com
> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We didn't really discuss a date for release on this thread. I was thinking
> that we could start looking at the week of July 4th as the target week for
> VOTE and nail down a date as we get closer.
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd think from a TinkerPop branding perspective, it probably helps to have
>> the name in there. It's Apache TinkerPop, not Apache Gremlin.
>>
>> I just took a quick look on a mirror, and some other Apache projects
>> (Spark, Kafka, HBase, NiFi, Pig, Zookeeper) don't even include apache in
>> their distributables, so maybe we can just do:
>>
>> tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>> tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM Stephen Mallette <sp...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> jason i think that was a suggestion to conform more to standard apache
>>> releases from someone in incubator. if it was mandatory we would have
>>> burned for that too many times to count at this point. i'm good to change
>>> it if everyone else is. what do we want them to be?
>>>
>>> apache-tinkerpop-console-x.y.z.zip
>>> apache-tinkerpop-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>
>>> or the full business:
>>>
>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-console-x.y.z.zip
>>> apache-tinkerpop-gremlin-server-x.y.z.zip
>>>
>>> i guess we lost "-incubating" now so the latter doesn't look so bad to me
>>> anymore.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Marko Rodriguez <ok...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, an imminent release is good. There are 2 severe bug fixes in
>> master/
>>>> (3.2.1) that I would like to get out there. 3.2.0 had lots of internal
>>>> changes to OLAP and I paid the price by incurring bugs. :|
>>>>
>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
>> named
>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>>>>
>>>> There is really no such thing as "tinkerpop" besides the source code
>>> which
>>>> is distributed as apache-tinkerpop-*.zip. The two other distributions
>> are
>>>> gremlin-console and gremlin-server and I think we should keep those
>>> naming
>>>> conventions as they are so they reflect what is being distributed.
>> Thus,
>>> I
>>>> think the naming of our artifacts is correct.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marko.
>>>>
>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>
>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jason Plurad <pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Somebody had mentioned that our distributables are supposed to be
>> named
>>>>> apache-tinkerpop*.zip instead of apache-gremlin*.zip. Maybe that's
>>>>> something that should be done along with this release.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Jason
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>> spmallette@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> cool, Ted. it would be good to have another hand there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ted Wilmes <tw...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think a release sounds good. I'd be interested in witnessing the
>>> the
>>>>>>> post-PMC vote release steps so that I might be able to help out on
>> an
>>>>>>> upcoming release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Ted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Marvin Froeder <velo.br@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your are right, for some reason I though it was on the artifactId
>> as
>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to relocate anything. The "-incubating" is
>>> just
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the version name, so we will just remove it for future releases.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <
>>>>>>> jbmusso@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This could make these releases look
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> "stable": I've often felt that the -incubating suffix somehow
>> made
>>>>>>>>>> releases look "alpha-ish" / "beta-ish", even though they were
>> not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Naming aside, bug fixes never hurt.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>>>>> spmallette@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> We've seen a lot of good fixes/optimizations to 3.1.3 and 3.2.1
>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we shouldn't exercise our new found TLP powers to do
>> a
>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>> and get rid of the "-incubating" at the end of our "current"
>>>>>>>>>> distributions
>>>>>>>>>>> and artifacts. thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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