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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com> on 2002/09/18 22:23:20 UTC
Release (1) Re: [lang] Added a couple of TODOs
So number 1 on our list is:
1) Decide on what we want to go and what doesn't go.
As a starting suggestion, I'm going to say that everything goes. [without
looking mind you].
Now, does anyone want to raise me an exception? :)
Hen
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> I've just added a couple of the small TODOs. Hopefully they should be
> alright for the release:
>
> ObjectUtils.identityToString
> ObjectUtils.NULL
>
> I haven't got anything pressing extra to fit into the release now.
>
> Stephen
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Re: Release (1) Re: [lang] Added a couple of TODOs
Posted by Daniel Rall <dl...@finemaltcoding.com>.
Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com> writes:
> [question]
> I'm considering the authors to be Colebourne and Downey. So I need some
> nods from Daniel and Caswell. Also Ola Berg and Scott Sanders if they've
> been focusing on them at all.
Sounds right to me.
> [question]
> Is there anything not in commons proper which people believe is highly
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Re: Release (1) Re: [lang] Added a couple of TODOs
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
> The builders look good. I was able to subclass ToStringStyle to get
> customized formatting, which was my chief concern. I do think the
> javadocs for the ToStringBuilder and associated classes should be
> expanded to make it easier to implement custom formatting, without
> someone needing to wade through the code to figure it out (though the
> wading is not too difficult.
>
> I have one question about ToStringStyle. I'm wondering why it contains
> protected fields that can be accessed directly by subclasses, as opposed
> to making them private with accessor methods.
The problem is that I need immutable subclasses of ToStringStyle. I have
however, changed ToStringStyle to have protected getters and setters with
private fields. StandardToStringStyle now just makes the protected methods
public. This provides stronger protection for ToStringStyle.
Stephen
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RE: Release (1) Re: [lang] Added a couple of TODOs
Posted by Steven Caswell <st...@caswell.name>.
Steven Caswell
steven@caswell.name
a.k.a Mungo Knotwise of Michel Delving
"One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them..."
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@generationjava.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:14 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; steven@caswell.name
> Subject: RE: Release (1) Re: [lang] Added a couple of TODOs
>
>
> Exactly. commons proper [god that needs a better name].
>
> Everything in commons proper should already have gone through
> the process of being happy that it is in the right package,
> and not a potential util or beanutil or collection or pattern
> or whatnot. I've not been focusing on builder/ and
> SystemUtils so I'd like to ask for some +1's from others that
> these two sets should go with 1.0.
>
> [question]
> I'm considering the authors to be Colebourne and Downey. So I
> need some nods from Daniel and Caswell. Also Ola Berg and
> Scott Sanders if they've been focusing on them at all.
SystemUtils is fine. I want to add a couple of things but just don't
have time to start that process so I'll wait until after the release.
The builders look good. I was able to subclass ToStringStyle to get
customized formatting, which was my chief concern. I do think the
javadocs for the ToStringBuilder and associated classes should be
expanded to make it easier to implement custom formatting, without
someone needing to wade through the code to figure it out (though the
wading is not too difficult.
I have one question about ToStringStyle. I'm wondering why it contains
protected fields that can be accessed directly by subclasses, as opposed
to making them private with accessor methods.
>
> [question]
> Is there anything not in commons proper which people believe
> is highly important to get in there before a 1.0 release??
>
> Hen
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Steven Caswell wrote:
>
> > By "everything" I assume you mean everything in commons
> proper and not
> > in the sandbox. I haven't seen anything I object to, though
> I haven't
> > looked it all over in great detail. The more the merrier.
> I want to
> > work on CalendarUtils but just haven't have the bandwidth
> yet, and I
> > don't want to hold up the release.
> >
> >
> > Steven Caswell
> > steven@caswell.name
> > a.k.a Mungo Knotwise of Michel Delving
> > "One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them..."
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@generationjava.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > > Subject: Release (1) Re: [lang] Added a couple of TODOs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So number 1 on our list is:
> > >
> > > 1) Decide on what we want to go and what doesn't go.
> > >
> > >
> > > As a starting suggestion, I'm going to say that everything goes.
> > > [without looking mind you].
> > >
> > > Now, does anyone want to raise me an exception? :)
> > >
> > > Hen
> > >
> > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've just added a couple of the small TODOs. Hopefully they
> > > should be
> > > > alright for the release:
> > > >
> > > > ObjectUtils.identityToString
> > > > ObjectUtils.NULL
> > > >
> > > > I haven't got anything pressing extra to fit into the
> release now.
> > > >
> > > > Stephen
> > > >
> > > >
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RE: Release (1) Re: [lang] Added a couple of TODOs
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
Exactly. commons proper [god that needs a better name].
Everything in commons proper should already have gone through the process
of being happy that it is in the right package, and not a potential util
or beanutil or collection or pattern or whatnot. I've not been focusing on
builder/ and SystemUtils so I'd like to ask for some +1's from others that
these two sets should go with 1.0.
[question]
I'm considering the authors to be Colebourne and Downey. So I need some
nods from Daniel and Caswell. Also Ola Berg and Scott Sanders if they've
been focusing on them at all.
[question]
Is there anything not in commons proper which people believe is highly
important to get in there before a 1.0 release??
Hen
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Steven Caswell wrote:
> By "everything" I assume you mean everything in commons proper and not
> in the sandbox. I haven't seen anything I object to, though I haven't
> looked it all over in great detail. The more the merrier. I want to
> work on CalendarUtils but just haven't have the bandwidth yet, and I
> don't want to hold up the release.
>
>
> Steven Caswell
> steven@caswell.name
> a.k.a Mungo Knotwise of Michel Delving
> "One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them..."
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@generationjava.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:23 PM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: Release (1) Re: [lang] Added a couple of TODOs
> >
> >
> >
> > So number 1 on our list is:
> >
> > 1) Decide on what we want to go and what doesn't go.
> >
> >
> > As a starting suggestion, I'm going to say that everything
> > goes. [without looking mind you].
> >
> > Now, does anyone want to raise me an exception? :)
> >
> > Hen
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> >
> > > I've just added a couple of the small TODOs. Hopefully they
> > should be
> > > alright for the release:
> > >
> > > ObjectUtils.identityToString
> > > ObjectUtils.NULL
> > >
> > > I haven't got anything pressing extra to fit into the release now.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > >
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RE: Release (1) Re: [lang] Added a couple of TODOs
Posted by Steven Caswell <st...@caswell.name>.
By "everything" I assume you mean everything in commons proper and not
in the sandbox. I haven't seen anything I object to, though I haven't
looked it all over in great detail. The more the merrier. I want to
work on CalendarUtils but just haven't have the bandwidth yet, and I
don't want to hold up the release.
Steven Caswell
steven@caswell.name
a.k.a Mungo Knotwise of Michel Delving
"One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them..."
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@generationjava.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:23 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Release (1) Re: [lang] Added a couple of TODOs
>
>
>
> So number 1 on our list is:
>
> 1) Decide on what we want to go and what doesn't go.
>
>
> As a starting suggestion, I'm going to say that everything
> goes. [without looking mind you].
>
> Now, does anyone want to raise me an exception? :)
>
> Hen
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>
> > I've just added a couple of the small TODOs. Hopefully they
> should be
> > alright for the release:
> >
> > ObjectUtils.identityToString
> > ObjectUtils.NULL
> >
> > I haven't got anything pressing extra to fit into the release now.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
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