RE: Traffic

["Galbreath, Mark" <Ga...@tessco.com>]

It's going to get worse.  Nevertheless, you will never be able to manage the
number/technical level of users in an open forum.  SERVLET-INTEREST became
too congested with basic setup and config questions by people too lazy to
search the archive for an answer (and how many scores of questions have been
asked here regarding ActionForm in just the past 2 weeks?) so a few guys
created ADVANCED-SERVLET-INTEREST and began regulating the level of users.

One thing that helped, however, was being brutally blunt with obviously lame
users and telling them to STFA (search the f*cking archives), STFW (...web)
and RTFM.  This started a couple of flame wars, and the Sun moderator
finally had to banish a few people, but the quality and quantity of posts
changed considerably for the better.

I'm not suggesting that's an answer, but my delete key has been getting a
lot of attention lately....

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: cody.burleson@studiointeractive.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 9:36 PM


Well, it's not dibilitating. I can hack it.  I guess I'm neutral on this
one.

- Cody

"Barr, Scott [IBM GSA]" <Sc...@team.telstra.com> on 02/11/2002
08:01:41 PM

I disagree. Most messages are relatively small, and so long as people dont
send attachments there generally isn't too much of a problem.
The delete key is a great filter :)

Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From:   cody.burleson@studiointeractive.com
> Sent:   Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:28 PM
>
> I second that motion.  We do not have filtering capability here at my work
> so I have to manually delete messages!
>
> - Cody
>
> Mark Rines <mr...@inforise.com> on 02/11/2002 07:19:43 PM
>
> Phew,
> I vote that we split up this mail list into several topics such as
> installation, configuration, add-ons (such as strutsTests) and extending
> the
> various ActionXXX classes. I am really having trouble keeping up with all
> (over 110 just today) the email.
> Mark

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Re: Traffic

[Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>]

For the record, I'm personally -1 on unhelpful one-word responses to
questions posted to a public list like this one. IMHO if you subscribe
to a public list, you have agreed to take the good with the bad. 

If the point of a response is to refer someone to the documentation or a
Web site, I would suggest providing a link to the resource. If there is
an issue with the way someone poses a question, as Mark G has pointed
out, Eric Raymond's page is an excellent primer. 

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


Otherwise, as a personal favor, I would ask everyone to please conserve
our bandwidth and say nothing at all. Before sending any message to a
high-volume list like this one, please ask yourself whether your post
will contribute to the signal or to the noise.

If the volume of messages is an issue for anyone, there is a Struts
digest and a newsgroup. 

mailto:struts-digest-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org

http://news.basebeans.com/forums.jsp


A good way to go is to use an archive when you have a question, 

http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/

and then the Basebean/Struts newsgroup if you need to ask one of your
own now and again. 


Any contributions to the official Struts or jGuru FAQs are also welcome. 

http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/kickstart.html

http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/newbie.html

http://www.jguru.com/faq/home.jsp?topic=Struts


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