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IP clearance and copyright transfer

I was looking at: 
http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html

It seems to imply that we require copyright transfer as part of the IP 
clearance process. Since when do we require copyright transfer?? I 
thought we only require a license.

Sanjiva.

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Re: IP clearance and copyright transfer

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 18, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

> Hi Craig,
>
> These two sentences in that section are what threw me off:
>
> "Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF  
> been received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the  
> package, the core code, and any new code produced by the project."
>
> "Check and make sure that the files that have been donated have been  
> updated to reflect the new ASF copyright."
>
> It'll be great to clean up that wording to say that what's required  
> is a license and not "new ASF copyright".

I think that text is referring to the "Source Header and Copyright  
Notice Policy" ( http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html and in  
particular  http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#headers ).  
IIRC, this used to be (still is?) referred to as the *new* source  
header policy...

If the source files contained copyright statements, we would not be  
able to remove the copyright statements (e.g. move them to a NOTICE  
file). The copyright holder needs to do this.

--kevan

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Re: IP clearance and copyright transfer

Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Hi Craig,

These two sentences in that section are what threw me off:

"Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been 
received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the 
core code, and any new code produced by the project."

"Check and make sure that the files that have been donated have been 
updated to reflect the new ASF copyright."

It'll be great to clean up that wording to say that what's required is a 
license and not "new ASF copyright".

Thanks!

Sanjiva.

Craig L Russell wrote:
> The only place I found (after a quick review) where you might infer 
> copyright transfer is that there is a section named "Copyright".
> 
> This could be changed to "License".
> 
> Are there other places that imply that a copyright grant is required?
> 
> Craig
> 
> On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> 
>> I was looking at: 
>> http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
>>
>> It seems to imply that we require copyright transfer as part of the IP 
>> clearance process. Since when do we require copyright transfer?? I 
>> thought we only require a license.
>>
>> Sanjiva.
>>
>> -- 
>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.;  http://wso2.com/
>> email: sanjiva@wso2.com; cell: +1 650 265 8311 | +94 77 787 6880
>> blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>>
>> The Open Source SOA Company
>>
>>
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> 
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
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> 


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Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
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Re: IP clearance and copyright transfer

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
The only place I found (after a quick review) where you might infer  
copyright transfer is that there is a section named "Copyright".

This could be changed to "License".

Are there other places that imply that a copyright grant is required?

Craig

On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

> I was looking at: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
>
> It seems to imply that we require copyright transfer as part of the  
> IP clearance process. Since when do we require copyright transfer??  
> I thought we only require a license.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> -- 
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.;  http://wso2.com/
> email: sanjiva@wso2.com; cell: +1 650 265 8311 | +94 77 787 6880
> blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
> The Open Source SOA Company
>
>
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Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


Re: IP clearance and copyright transfer

Posted by Bill Stoddard <wg...@gmail.com>.
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> I was looking at: 
> http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
>
> It seems to imply that we require copyright transfer as part of the IP 
> clearance process. Since when do we require copyright transfer?? I 
> thought we only require a license.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
Sanjiva,
I interpreted the wording exactly as you did.  It's confusing.

Bill

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