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Source tarballs!

Hi..

Can anyone put up source tarballs on the site ?

Regards,
Sanket

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Re: Source tarballs!

Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.

Mark Hindess wrote:
> I did briefly look at adding a source snapshot to the snapshot target
> but decided that trying to avoid picking up any non-source files was
> too error prone and that the only reliable way to make them is to take
> a clean checkout.

Yah, indeed, but that's not too much of a burden.  That's probably good 
practice anyway for doing the  binary and source snapshots - some script 
that does that for a provided revision number, does a checkout, and then 
kicks off the regular script in the checked-out tree...

> 
> While looking at this, I wondered about whether the source snapshot
> should include .svn directories.  Having them might be useful to get
> the initial checkout that people could then update.  However, the .svn
> directories do account for some 135M my harmony tree which comes to
> around 18M for a "gzip -9" tar - approximately double the size.

No, don't add .svn - it doubles everything as there's a complete copy in 
there.

My reasoning is this - if someone can't do "svn checkout" to get the 
tree to start with, adding this baggage won't help them.  They are 
getting the source snapshot because they probably can't get to SVN.

geir



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Re: Source tarballs!

Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.
Perhaps :)

But I'm curious if just iterating his way to the first checkout solves 
his problem w/o us having to burden every other person who wants a 
source snapshot with a double-size snapshot...

I wish SVN had a mode where .svn and meta information in .svn was there, 
and it would populate the copy in .svn on first svn operation.  of 
course, most users would modify locally before touching svn to do 
something, so that prollie wouldn't work.



Mark Hindess wrote:
> Perhaps Sanket is an example of someone who would use a source
> download with .svn included to kick start a checkout?
> 
> Regards,
>  Mark.
> 
> On 4/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com> wrote:
>> Have you tried just doing "svn co <URL>" in a loop?  it should
>> eventually get you complete...
>>
>>
>> geir
>>
>>
>> Sanket Sharma wrote:
>>> Download a tar ball with a download manager seems to be easier, despite the size. Further, I believe, casual developers often refrain from downloading the source as they dont know svn tricks.
>>> My problem is a slow network connection. I have tried downloading via svn but it just freezes after downloading few initial files. :-(
>>> I'm just dying to get my hands dirty with Harmony code, but couldnt do so for past few weeks. It would be great if you guys can put up bzip/tar file.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sanket
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mark Hindess [mailto:mark.hindess@googlemail.com]
>>> Sent: Tue 4/11/2006 4:31 PM
>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org; geir@pobox.com
>>> Subject: Re: Source tarballs!
>>>
>>> I did briefly look at adding a source snapshot to the snapshot target
>>> but decided that trying to avoid picking up any non-source files was
>>> too error prone and that the only reliable way to make them is to take
>>> a clean checkout.
>>>
>>> While looking at this, I wondered about whether the source snapshot
>>> should include .svn directories.  Having them might be useful to get
>>> the initial checkout that people could then update.  However, the .svn
>>> directories do account for some 135M my harmony tree which comes to
>>> around 18M for a "gzip -9" tar - approximately double the size.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>  Mark.
>>>
>>> On 4/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> Sanket Sharma wrote:
>>>>> Hi..
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone put up source tarballs on the site ?
>>>> Yes - we should do this in the future for our snapshots - include a src
>>>> tarball at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> If no one beats me to it, I'll do one for the latest binary snapshot
>>>> that's out there.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to do one w/ HEAD as we have some regressions people are
>>>> looking into...
>>>>
>>>> geir
>>>>
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Re: Source tarballs!

Posted by Mark Hindess <ma...@googlemail.com>.
Perhaps Sanket is an example of someone who would use a source
download with .svn included to kick start a checkout?

Regards,
 Mark.

On 4/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com> wrote:
> Have you tried just doing "svn co <URL>" in a loop?  it should
> eventually get you complete...
>
>
> geir
>
>
> Sanket Sharma wrote:
> > Download a tar ball with a download manager seems to be easier, despite the size. Further, I believe, casual developers often refrain from downloading the source as they dont know svn tricks.
> > My problem is a slow network connection. I have tried downloading via svn but it just freezes after downloading few initial files. :-(
> > I'm just dying to get my hands dirty with Harmony code, but couldnt do so for past few weeks. It would be great if you guys can put up bzip/tar file.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sanket
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Hindess [mailto:mark.hindess@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Tue 4/11/2006 4:31 PM
> > To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org; geir@pobox.com
> > Subject: Re: Source tarballs!
> >
> > I did briefly look at adding a source snapshot to the snapshot target
> > but decided that trying to avoid picking up any non-source files was
> > too error prone and that the only reliable way to make them is to take
> > a clean checkout.
> >
> > While looking at this, I wondered about whether the source snapshot
> > should include .svn directories.  Having them might be useful to get
> > the initial checkout that people could then update.  However, the .svn
> > directories do account for some 135M my harmony tree which comes to
> > around 18M for a "gzip -9" tar - approximately double the size.
> >
> > Regards,
> >  Mark.
> >
> > On 4/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sanket Sharma wrote:
> >>> Hi..
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone put up source tarballs on the site ?
> >> Yes - we should do this in the future for our snapshots - include a src
> >> tarball at the same time.
> >>
> >> If no one beats me to it, I'll do one for the latest binary snapshot
> >> that's out there.
> >>
> >> I don't want to do one w/ HEAD as we have some regressions people are
> >> looking into...
> >>
> >> geir
> >>
> >>
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Re: Source tarballs!

Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.
Have you tried just doing "svn co <URL>" in a loop?  it should 
eventually get you complete...


geir


Sanket Sharma wrote:
> Download a tar ball with a download manager seems to be easier, despite the size. Further, I believe, casual developers often refrain from downloading the source as they dont know svn tricks.
> My problem is a slow network connection. I have tried downloading via svn but it just freezes after downloading few initial files. :-(
> I'm just dying to get my hands dirty with Harmony code, but couldnt do so for past few weeks. It would be great if you guys can put up bzip/tar file.
> 
> Regards,
> Sanket
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Hindess [mailto:mark.hindess@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Tue 4/11/2006 4:31 PM
> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org; geir@pobox.com
> Subject: Re: Source tarballs!
>  
> I did briefly look at adding a source snapshot to the snapshot target
> but decided that trying to avoid picking up any non-source files was
> too error prone and that the only reliable way to make them is to take
> a clean checkout.
> 
> While looking at this, I wondered about whether the source snapshot
> should include .svn directories.  Having them might be useful to get
> the initial checkout that people could then update.  However, the .svn
> directories do account for some 135M my harmony tree which comes to
> around 18M for a "gzip -9" tar - approximately double the size.
> 
> Regards,
>  Mark.
> 
> On 4/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sanket Sharma wrote:
>>> Hi..
>>>
>>> Can anyone put up source tarballs on the site ?
>> Yes - we should do this in the future for our snapshots - include a src
>> tarball at the same time.
>>
>> If no one beats me to it, I'll do one for the latest binary snapshot
>> that's out there.
>>
>> I don't want to do one w/ HEAD as we have some regressions people are
>> looking into...
>>
>> geir
>>
>>
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RE: Source tarballs!

Posted by Sanket Sharma <sa...@zensar.com>.
Download a tar ball with a download manager seems to be easier, despite the size. Further, I believe, casual developers often refrain from downloading the source as they dont know svn tricks.
My problem is a slow network connection. I have tried downloading via svn but it just freezes after downloading few initial files. :-(
I'm just dying to get my hands dirty with Harmony code, but couldnt do so for past few weeks. It would be great if you guys can put up bzip/tar file.

Regards,
Sanket



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hindess [mailto:mark.hindess@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tue 4/11/2006 4:31 PM
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org; geir@pobox.com
Subject: Re: Source tarballs!
 
I did briefly look at adding a source snapshot to the snapshot target
but decided that trying to avoid picking up any non-source files was
too error prone and that the only reliable way to make them is to take
a clean checkout.

While looking at this, I wondered about whether the source snapshot
should include .svn directories.  Having them might be useful to get
the initial checkout that people could then update.  However, the .svn
directories do account for some 135M my harmony tree which comes to
around 18M for a "gzip -9" tar - approximately double the size.

Regards,
 Mark.

On 4/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>
> Sanket Sharma wrote:
> > Hi..
> >
> > Can anyone put up source tarballs on the site ?
>
> Yes - we should do this in the future for our snapshots - include a src
> tarball at the same time.
>
> If no one beats me to it, I'll do one for the latest binary snapshot
> that's out there.
>
> I don't want to do one w/ HEAD as we have some regressions people are
> looking into...
>
> geir
>
>
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Re: Source tarballs!

Posted by Mark Hindess <ma...@googlemail.com>.
I did briefly look at adding a source snapshot to the snapshot target
but decided that trying to avoid picking up any non-source files was
too error prone and that the only reliable way to make them is to take
a clean checkout.

While looking at this, I wondered about whether the source snapshot
should include .svn directories.  Having them might be useful to get
the initial checkout that people could then update.  However, the .svn
directories do account for some 135M my harmony tree which comes to
around 18M for a "gzip -9" tar - approximately double the size.

Regards,
 Mark.

On 4/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>
> Sanket Sharma wrote:
> > Hi..
> >
> > Can anyone put up source tarballs on the site ?
>
> Yes - we should do this in the future for our snapshots - include a src
> tarball at the same time.
>
> If no one beats me to it, I'll do one for the latest binary snapshot
> that's out there.
>
> I don't want to do one w/ HEAD as we have some regressions people are
> looking into...
>
> geir
>
>
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Re: Source tarballs!

Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.

Sanket Sharma wrote:
> Hi..
> 
> Can anyone put up source tarballs on the site ?

Yes - we should do this in the future for our snapshots - include a src 
tarball at the same time.

If no one beats me to it, I'll do one for the latest binary snapshot 
that's out there.

I don't want to do one w/ HEAD as we have some regressions people are 
looking into...

geir


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