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Fwd: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Hi,
Do we have a genuine issue here? The IP clearance process for this
contribution is at
https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/couchdb-fauxton.html
Robert Newson
CouchDB PMC
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From: Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) <gc...@debian.org>
Date: 19 November 2013 21:18
Subject: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
To: CouchDB Development <de...@couchdb.apache.org>
Hi,
The file src/fauxton/assets/js/libs/jshint.js in CouchDB 1.5.0 has a
non-free license. It contains this phrase: "The Software shall be used
for Good, not Evil". Please see how others like Google and Debian
realized that this makes it non-free software[1][2].
Other projects like the other NoSQL database, WhiteDB migrate to a free
JSON parser[3] called YAJL[4].
Kind regards,
Laszlo/GCS
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Crockford#Criticism
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#JSON_evil_license
[3] https://github.com/priitj/whitedb/commit/a76c903ee9027d67b71bf864ab807a6a29c21050
[4] http://lloyd.github.io/yajl/
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Re: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Posted by Luis Villa <lu...@lu.is>.
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Luis Villa <lu...@lu.is> wrote:
> That's only for new code. The main file is still under Crockford's
> vanity license:
>
> https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/src/jshint.js
FYI for anyone who finds this thread via archives in the future: there
may be more, by the way; I don't think I did a super-thorough search
when I was last looking at this problem.
Luis
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Re: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Posted by Luis Villa <lu...@lu.is>.
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Richard Fontana <rf...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Is it the ASF's policy to tolerate inclusion of this license?
> See http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#json
That appears to have been the outcome of the previous discussion on
the topic; see:
http://markmail.org/message/gglluph3ifuyqiwq#query:+page:1+mid:f7v2qzmqlckvxb2x+state:results
Luis
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Re: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
On 19/11/13 21:57, Richard Fontana wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 01:52:19PM -0800, Luis Villa wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> FYI: jshint is believed to be truly under this license
>>> https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/LICENSE.
>>
>> That's only for new code. The main file is still under Crockford's
>> vanity license:
>>
>> https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/src/jshint.js
>
> Is it the ASF's policy to tolerate inclusion of this license?
> See http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#json
Jena used to use the Java json.org parser - all we wanted was a basic
parser, no java-json mapping, just JSON->abstract parse tree.
We simply wrote our own parser because it was quicker than sorting out
the legal side. The fact it reuses our tuned I/O code we had for our
RDF parsers is a bonus.
Andy
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Re: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Posted by Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org>.
Luis, thanks! I think that covers it. Thanks all for the swift responses.
B.
On 19 November 2013 22:31, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
> We've verified that jshint is not needed anymore, the file with this
> license has been deleted from our master branch.
>
> Should we move quickly to build a 1.5.1 release artifact that includes
> that change or continue with our plan to release 1.6.0 on our regular
> schedule?
>
> What does the inclusion of this mean for our 1.5.0 release?
>
> B.
>
>
> On 19 November 2013 22:03, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
>> I've pursued this out of band, it seems the latest version of fauxton
>> in couchdb master has switched to a library called 'ace'. We're
>> verifying now that we can simply delete jshint entirely. At worse, we
>> can import a version of jshint from upstream that does not include the
>> "evil" clause, since it was changed to not include that by the author.
>> Would rather remove it entirely.
>>
>> B.
>>
>>
>> On 19 November 2013 21:57, Richard Fontana <rf...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 01:52:19PM -0800, Luis Villa wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> > FYI: jshint is believed to be truly under this license
>>>> > https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/LICENSE.
>>>>
>>>> That's only for new code. The main file is still under Crockford's
>>>> vanity license:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/src/jshint.js
>>>
>>> Is it the ASF's policy to tolerate inclusion of this license?
>>> See http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#json
>>>
>>> - RF
>>>
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Re: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Posted by Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org>.
We've verified that jshint is not needed anymore, the file with this
license has been deleted from our master branch.
Should we move quickly to build a 1.5.1 release artifact that includes
that change or continue with our plan to release 1.6.0 on our regular
schedule?
What does the inclusion of this mean for our 1.5.0 release?
B.
On 19 November 2013 22:03, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've pursued this out of band, it seems the latest version of fauxton
> in couchdb master has switched to a library called 'ace'. We're
> verifying now that we can simply delete jshint entirely. At worse, we
> can import a version of jshint from upstream that does not include the
> "evil" clause, since it was changed to not include that by the author.
> Would rather remove it entirely.
>
> B.
>
>
> On 19 November 2013 21:57, Richard Fontana <rf...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 01:52:19PM -0800, Luis Villa wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> > FYI: jshint is believed to be truly under this license
>>> > https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/LICENSE.
>>>
>>> That's only for new code. The main file is still under Crockford's
>>> vanity license:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/src/jshint.js
>>
>> Is it the ASF's policy to tolerate inclusion of this license?
>> See http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#json
>>
>> - RF
>>
>>
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Re: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Posted by Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org>.
I've pursued this out of band, it seems the latest version of fauxton
in couchdb master has switched to a library called 'ace'. We're
verifying now that we can simply delete jshint entirely. At worse, we
can import a version of jshint from upstream that does not include the
"evil" clause, since it was changed to not include that by the author.
Would rather remove it entirely.
B.
On 19 November 2013 21:57, Richard Fontana <rf...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 01:52:19PM -0800, Luis Villa wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > FYI: jshint is believed to be truly under this license
>> > https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/LICENSE.
>>
>> That's only for new code. The main file is still under Crockford's
>> vanity license:
>>
>> https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/src/jshint.js
>
> Is it the ASF's policy to tolerate inclusion of this license?
> See http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#json
>
> - RF
>
>
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Re: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Posted by Richard Fontana <rf...@redhat.com>.
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 01:52:19PM -0800, Luis Villa wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
> > FYI: jshint is believed to be truly under this license
> > https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/LICENSE.
>
> That's only for new code. The main file is still under Crockford's
> vanity license:
>
> https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/src/jshint.js
Is it the ASF's policy to tolerate inclusion of this license?
See http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#json
- RF
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Re: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Posted by Luis Villa <lu...@lu.is>.
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
> FYI: jshint is believed to be truly under this license
> https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/LICENSE.
That's only for new code. The main file is still under Crockford's
vanity license:
https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/src/jshint.js
Luis
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Re: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Posted by Benoit Chesneau <be...@e-engura.org>.
On 19 Nov 2013, at 22:45, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
> FYI: jshint is believed to be truly under this license
> https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/LICENSE.
>
> B.
>
well afaik the license used for jshint is edited in the file:
https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/src/jshint.js#L19
The LICENSE in the code is different is different from the LICENSE file.
- benoit
> On 19 November 2013 21:40, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Do we have a genuine issue here? The IP clearance process for this
>> contribution is at
>> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/couchdb-fauxton.html
>>
>> Robert Newson
>> CouchDB PMC
>>
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>> From: Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) <gc...@debian.org>
>> Date: 19 November 2013 21:18
>> Subject: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
>> To: CouchDB Development <de...@couchdb.apache.org>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The file src/fauxton/assets/js/libs/jshint.js in CouchDB 1.5.0 has a
>> non-free license. It contains this phrase: "The Software shall be used
>> for Good, not Evil". Please see how others like Google and Debian
>> realized that this makes it non-free software[1][2].
>> Other projects like the other NoSQL database, WhiteDB migrate to a free
>> JSON parser[3] called YAJL[4].
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Laszlo/GCS
>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Crockford#Criticism
>> [2] https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#JSON_evil_license
>> [3] https://github.com/priitj/whitedb/commit/a76c903ee9027d67b71bf864ab807a6a29c21050
>> [4] http://lloyd.github.io/yajl/
>
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Re: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Posted by Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org>.
FYI: jshint is believed to be truly under this license
https://github.com/jshint/jshint/blob/2.x/LICENSE.
B.
On 19 November 2013 21:40, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do we have a genuine issue here? The IP clearance process for this
> contribution is at
> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/couchdb-fauxton.html
>
> Robert Newson
> CouchDB PMC
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) <gc...@debian.org>
> Date: 19 November 2013 21:18
> Subject: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
> To: CouchDB Development <de...@couchdb.apache.org>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> The file src/fauxton/assets/js/libs/jshint.js in CouchDB 1.5.0 has a
> non-free license. It contains this phrase: "The Software shall be used
> for Good, not Evil". Please see how others like Google and Debian
> realized that this makes it non-free software[1][2].
> Other projects like the other NoSQL database, WhiteDB migrate to a free
> JSON parser[3] called YAJL[4].
>
> Kind regards,
> Laszlo/GCS
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Crockford#Criticism
> [2] https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#JSON_evil_license
> [3] https://github.com/priitj/whitedb/commit/a76c903ee9027d67b71bf864ab807a6a29c21050
> [4] http://lloyd.github.io/yajl/
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Re: copyright infringement in CouchDB 1.5.0
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Robert Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
> Do we have a genuine issue here?
See http://markmail.org/message/gglluph3ifuyqiwq for a related
discussion from a few years ago.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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