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Posted to users@myfaces.apache.org by Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> on 2006/11/15 22:54:38 UTC
general myfaces performance question
Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this question.
Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
framework covering extranet sites.
Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it was not
too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet sites.
The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only covering a
minimalistic approach.
The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge performance
boost due to good caching.
But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet installations,
but extranet is a fully different beast.
So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
Does anyone have any experience or samples?
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Yes it is!
I am not saying that because I am a committer. I say that for the
following reason:
The Trinidad components are around the JSF community since years
(formal Oracle code)
They have been developed / tested /.../ in a corperate mind.
Incubation doesn't mean the stuff is instable. incubation just says
"there is a new community growing inside the ASF"
It is important for the ASF (apache software foundation) to ensure
that all projects work in the Apache spirit. It is not about opening
just the sources, it is about building community.
The community building process is good with Trinidad. got
patches/feedback from users; we voted new committers in etc. bla bla
bla :)
So give the components a try. Don't be shy! :)
HTH,
Matthias
On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it alright to use Trinidad while it is still in the incubator?
>
> Aneesha
>
> On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
> > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it yourself,
> > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
> > Trinidad).
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this question.
> > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > >
> > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it was not
> > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet sites.
> > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only covering a
> > > minimalistic approach.
> > >
> > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge performance
> > > boost due to good caching.
> > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet installations,
> > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > >
> > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
:)
take it that way.
wiki is agil ... :)
On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Found it on the Wiki -
> adffaces-user-subscribe@incubator.apache.org
>
> Sometimes it's difficult to remember that wiki is more correct than the
> website.
>
> Thanks.
> Aneesha
>
>
> On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well how do I subscribe to the mailing list? The subscribe links aren't
> links here -
> http://incubator.apache.org/adffaces/trinidad-build/mail-lists.html
> >
> > Is it the standard
> adffaces_user-subscribe@incubator.apache.org?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aneesha
> >
> >
> > On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > mailing list works, I am on
> > >
> > > check the trinidad wiki for nbuilds (from continuum)
> > >
> > > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Trinidad
> > >
> > > On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil < popcorn09@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Yes, I am aware of the Oracle connection. When I was evaluating what
> to use
> > > > for my project, I could not find a download location anywhere on the
> > > > incubator. Only source was available. The mailing list did not work
> either.
> > > > It looked very useful from documentation et al.
> > > >
> > > > So how do I go about it if I want to use it? Anything like nightly
> builds
> > > > and where can I find them?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Aneesha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/16/06, Gerald Müllan < bierbrauen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Sure, think about the history before trinidad has come to incubator.
> > > > > It was oracle internal, so they have already used it in their
> webapps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apart from this, the usage of trinidad is emerging, also in some
> > > > > real-world web-apps.
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gerald
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil < popcorn09@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Is it alright to use Trinidad while it is still in the incubator?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aneesha
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > > > > > > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region
> as
> > > > > > > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it
> yourself,
> > > > > > > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented
> in
> > > > > > > Trinidad).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this
> > > > question.
> > > > > > > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts
> replacement
> > > > > > > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that
> it was
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for
> intranet
> > > > sites.
> > > > > > > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only
> covering
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > minimalistic approach.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge
> performance
> > > > > > > > boost due to good caching.
> > > > > > > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet
> installations,
> > > > > > > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those
> cases.
> > > > > > > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > > > > Courses in English and German
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > > >
> > > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > > Courses in English and German
> > > > >
> > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
> > >
> > > further stuff:
> > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
hrm,
strange. the apache infrastructure guys ?
On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I cannot subsribe to it. Get the following error:
>
> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
>
> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
>
> adffaces-user-subscribe@incubator.apache.org
>
> Technical details of permanent failure:
> PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 12): 552 spam score (5.5) exceeded
> threshold
> <snip>
>
> Any idea where I can get support on this?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Aneesha
>
> On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <popcorn09@gmail.com > wrote:
> > Found it on the Wiki -
> adffaces-user-subscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >
> > Sometimes it's difficult to remember that wiki is more correct than the
> website.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Aneesha
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil < popcorn09@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well how do I subscribe to the mailing list? The subscribe links aren't
> links here -
> http://incubator.apache.org/adffaces/trinidad-build/mail-lists.html
> > >
> > > Is it the standard
> adffaces_user-subscribe@incubator.apache.org?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Aneesha
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > mailing list works, I am on
> > > >
> > > > check the trinidad wiki for nbuilds (from continuum)
> > > >
> > > > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Trinidad
> > > >
> > > > On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil < popcorn09@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Yes, I am aware of the Oracle connection. When I was evaluating what
> to use
> > > > > for my project, I could not find a download location anywhere on the
> > > > > incubator. Only source was available. The mailing list did not work
> either.
> > > > > It looked very useful from documentation et al.
> > > > >
> > > > > So how do I go about it if I want to use it? Anything like nightly
> builds
> > > > > and where can I find them?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Aneesha
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/16/06, Gerald Müllan < bierbrauen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Sure, think about the history before trinidad has come to
> incubator.
> > > > > > It was oracle internal, so they have already used it in their
> webapps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Apart from this, the usage of trinidad is emerging, also in some
> > > > > > real-world web-apps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gerald
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil < popcorn09@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Is it alright to use Trinidad while it is still in the
> incubator?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aneesha
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > > > > > > > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region
> as
> > > > > > > > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it
> yourself,
> > > > > > > > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is
> implemented in
> > > > > > > > Trinidad).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask
> this
> > > > > question.
> > > > > > > > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts
> replacement
> > > > > > > > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that
> it was
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for
> intranet
> > > > > sites.
> > > > > > > > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only
> covering
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > minimalistic approach.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge
> performance
> > > > > > > > > boost due to good caching.
> > > > > > > > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet
> installations,
> > > > > > > > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those
> cases.
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > > > > > Courses in English and German
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > > > Courses in English and German
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
> > > >
> > > > further stuff:
> > > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com>.
I cannot subsribe to it. Get the following error:
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
adffaces-user-subscribe@incubator.apache.org
Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 12): 552 spam score (5.5) exceeded threshold
<snip>
Any idea where I can get support on this?
Thanks,
Aneesha
On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Found it on the Wiki - adffaces-user-subscribe@incubator.apache.org
>
> Sometimes it's difficult to remember that wiki is more correct than the
> website.
>
> Thanks.
> Aneesha
>
> On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well how do I subscribe to the mailing list? The subscribe links aren't
> > links here - http://incubator.apache.org/adffaces/trinidad-build/mail-lists.html
> >
> >
> > Is it the standard adffaces_user-subscribe@incubator.apache.org?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aneesha
> >
> > On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > mailing list works, I am on
> > >
> > > check the trinidad wiki for nbuilds (from continuum)
> > >
> > > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Trinidad
> > >
> > > On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil < popcorn09@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Yes, I am aware of the Oracle connection. When I was evaluating what
> > > to use
> > > > for my project, I could not find a download location anywhere on the
> > >
> > > > incubator. Only source was available. The mailing list did not work
> > > either.
> > > > It looked very useful from documentation et al.
> > > >
> > > > So how do I go about it if I want to use it? Anything like nightly
> > > builds
> > > > and where can I find them?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Aneesha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/16/06, Gerald Müllan < bierbrauen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Sure, think about the history before trinidad has come to
> > > incubator.
> > > > > It was oracle internal, so they have already used it in their
> > > webapps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apart from this, the usage of trinidad is emerging, also in some
> > > > > real-world web-apps.
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gerald
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil < popcorn09@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Is it alright to use Trinidad while it is still in the
> > > incubator?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aneesha
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > > > > > > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region
> > > as
> > > > > > > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it
> > > yourself,
> > > > > > > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is
> > > implemented in
> > > > > > > Trinidad).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask
> > > this
> > > > question.
> > > > > > > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts
> > > replacement
> > > > > > > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that
> > > it was
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for
> > > intranet
> > > > sites.
> > > > > > > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only
> > > covering
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > minimalistic approach.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge
> > > performance
> > > > > > > > boost due to good caching.
> > > > > > > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet
> > > installations,
> > > > > > > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those
> > > cases.
> > > > > > > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > > > > Courses in English and German
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > > >
> > > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > > Courses in English and German
> > > > >
> > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
> > >
> > > further stuff:
> > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com>.
Found it on the Wiki - adffaces-user-subscribe@incubator.apache.org
Sometimes it's difficult to remember that wiki is more correct than the
website.
Thanks.
Aneesha
On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well how do I subscribe to the mailing list? The subscribe links aren't
> links here - http://incubator.apache.org/adffaces/trinidad-build/mail-lists.html
>
>
> Is it the standard adffaces_user-subscribe@incubator.apache.org?
>
> Thanks,
> Aneesha
>
> On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > mailing list works, I am on
> >
> > check the trinidad wiki for nbuilds (from continuum)
> >
> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Trinidad
> >
> > On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil < popcorn09@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Yes, I am aware of the Oracle connection. When I was evaluating what
> > to use
> > > for my project, I could not find a download location anywhere on the
> > > incubator. Only source was available. The mailing list did not work
> > either.
> > > It looked very useful from documentation et al.
> > >
> > > So how do I go about it if I want to use it? Anything like nightly
> > builds
> > > and where can I find them?
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot.
> > > Regards,
> > > Aneesha
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/16/06, Gerald Müllan <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Sure, think about the history before trinidad has come to incubator.
> > > > It was oracle internal, so they have already used it in their
> > webapps.
> > > >
> > > > Apart from this, the usage of trinidad is emerging, also in some
> > > > real-world web-apps.
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Gerald
> > > >
> > > > On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Is it alright to use Trinidad while it is still in the incubator?
> > > > >
> > > > > Aneesha
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > > > > > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region
> > as
> > > > > > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it
> > yourself,
> > > > > > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented
> > in
> > > > > > Trinidad).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Martin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > > > > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this
> >
> > > question.
> > > > > > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts
> > replacement
> > > > > > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that
> > it was
> > > not
> > > > > > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for
> > intranet
> > > sites.
> > > > > > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only
> > covering
> > > a
> > > > > > > minimalistic approach.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge
> > performance
> > > > > > > boost due to good caching.
> > > > > > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet
> > installations,
> > > > > > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those
> > cases.
> > > > > > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > > > Courses in English and German
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > >
> > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > Courses in English and German
> > > >
> > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> > http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> >
>
>
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com>.
Well how do I subscribe to the mailing list? The subscribe links aren't
links here -
http://incubator.apache.org/adffaces/trinidad-build/mail-lists.html
Is it the standard adffaces_user-subscribe@incubator.apache.org?
Thanks,
Aneesha
On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> mailing list works, I am on
>
> check the trinidad wiki for nbuilds (from continuum)
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Trinidad
>
> On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, I am aware of the Oracle connection. When I was evaluating what to
> use
> > for my project, I could not find a download location anywhere on the
> > incubator. Only source was available. The mailing list did not work
> either.
> > It looked very useful from documentation et al.
> >
> > So how do I go about it if I want to use it? Anything like nightly
> builds
> > and where can I find them?
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> > Regards,
> > Aneesha
> >
> >
> > On 11/16/06, Gerald Müllan <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Sure, think about the history before trinidad has come to incubator.
> > > It was oracle internal, so they have already used it in their webapps.
> > >
> > > Apart from this, the usage of trinidad is emerging, also in some
> > > real-world web-apps.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > >
> > > Gerald
> > >
> > > On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Is it alright to use Trinidad while it is still in the incubator?
> > > >
> > > > Aneesha
> > > >
> > > > On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > > > > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
> > > > > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it
> yourself,
> > > > > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
> > > > > Trinidad).
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Martin
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > > > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this
> > question.
> > > > > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> > > > > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it
> was
> > not
> > > > > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet
> > sites.
> > > > > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only
> covering
> > a
> > > > > > minimalistic approach.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge
> performance
> > > > > > boost due to good caching.
> > > > > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet
> installations,
> > > > > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> > > > > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > > >
> > > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > > Courses in English and German
> > > > >
> > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.irian.at
> > >
> > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > Courses in English and German
> > >
> > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
> http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
>
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
mailing list works, I am on
check the trinidad wiki for nbuilds (from continuum)
http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Trinidad
On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I am aware of the Oracle connection. When I was evaluating what to use
> for my project, I could not find a download location anywhere on the
> incubator. Only source was available. The mailing list did not work either.
> It looked very useful from documentation et al.
>
> So how do I go about it if I want to use it? Anything like nightly builds
> and where can I find them?
>
> Thanks a lot.
> Regards,
> Aneesha
>
>
> On 11/16/06, Gerald Müllan <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sure, think about the history before trinidad has come to incubator.
> > It was oracle internal, so they have already used it in their webapps.
> >
> > Apart from this, the usage of trinidad is emerging, also in some
> > real-world web-apps.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Gerald
> >
> > On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Is it alright to use Trinidad while it is still in the incubator?
> > >
> > > Aneesha
> > >
> > > On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > > > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
> > > > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it yourself,
> > > > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
> > > > Trinidad).
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this
> question.
> > > > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> > > > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it was
> not
> > > > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet
> sites.
> > > > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only covering
> a
> > > > > minimalistic approach.
> > > > >
> > > > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge performance
> > > > > boost due to good caching.
> > > > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet installations,
> > > > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > > > >
> > > > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> > > > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > >
> > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > Courses in English and German
> > > >
> > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com>.
Yes, I am aware of the Oracle connection. When I was evaluating what to use
for my project, I could not find a download location anywhere on the
incubator. Only source was available. The mailing list did not work either.
It looked very useful from documentation et al.
So how do I go about it if I want to use it? Anything like nightly builds
and where can I find them?
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Aneesha
On 11/16/06, Gerald Müllan <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sure, think about the history before trinidad has come to incubator.
> It was oracle internal, so they have already used it in their webapps.
>
> Apart from this, the usage of trinidad is emerging, also in some
> real-world web-apps.
>
> cheers,
>
> Gerald
>
> On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is it alright to use Trinidad while it is still in the incubator?
> >
> > Aneesha
> >
> > On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
> > > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it yourself,
> > > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
> > > Trinidad).
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this
> question.
> > > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> > > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > > >
> > > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it was
> not
> > > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet
> sites.
> > > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only covering
> a
> > > > minimalistic approach.
> > > >
> > > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge performance
> > > > boost due to good caching.
> > > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet installations,
> > > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > > >
> > > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> > > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > http://www.irian.at
> > >
> > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > Courses in English and German
> > >
> > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Gerald Müllan <bi...@gmail.com>.
Sure, think about the history before trinidad has come to incubator.
It was oracle internal, so they have already used it in their webapps.
Apart from this, the usage of trinidad is emerging, also in some
real-world web-apps.
cheers,
Gerald
On 11/16/06, Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it alright to use Trinidad while it is still in the incubator?
>
> Aneesha
>
> On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
> > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it yourself,
> > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
> > Trinidad).
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this question.
> > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > >
> > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it was not
> > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet sites.
> > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only covering a
> > > minimalistic approach.
> > >
> > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge performance
> > > boost due to good caching.
> > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet installations,
> > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > >
> > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
>
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Aneesha Govil <po...@gmail.com>.
Is it alright to use Trinidad while it is still in the incubator?
Aneesha
On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
> Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it yourself,
> you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
> Trinidad).
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this question.
> > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> > framework covering extranet sites.
> >
> > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it was not
> > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet sites.
> > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only covering a
> > minimalistic approach.
> >
> > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge performance
> > boost due to good caching.
> > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet installations,
> > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> >
> > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Thomas Spiegl and me have made sure you can use Tomahawk (snapshot)
with Trinidad w/o problems.
Try it - if there is a problem, come back to us and tell us about it.
regards,
Martin
On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> it works
> in some (sample) apps I mix the two, because that is a common question,
> when talking about Trinidad.
>
> Almost everybody is asking about Tomahawk support, sometimes they ask
> about other libs too
>
> -M
>
> On 11/16/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > Ulath (AKA: Murat HAZER) schrieb:
> > > Does trinidad have any incompatibilities with tomahawk components and
> > > facelets?
> > >
> > There has been some serious work done with the integration of both
> > complibs lately, if you want to mix it you should use the trunk, but to
> > my knowledge it should work (have not tried it though, but Thomas did,
> > he did the integration work as well)
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
> http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
it works
in some (sample) apps I mix the two, because that is a common question,
when talking about Trinidad.
Almost everybody is asking about Tomahawk support, sometimes they ask
about other libs too
-M
On 11/16/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> Ulath (AKA: Murat HAZER) schrieb:
> > Does trinidad have any incompatibilities with tomahawk components and
> > facelets?
> >
> There has been some serious work done with the integration of both
> complibs lately, if you want to mix it you should use the trunk, but to
> my knowledge it should work (have not tried it though, but Thomas did,
> he did the integration work as well)
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at>.
Ulath (AKA: Murat HAZER) schrieb:
> Does trinidad have any incompatibilities with tomahawk components and
> facelets?
>
There has been some serious work done with the integration of both
complibs lately, if you want to mix it you should use the trunk, but to
my knowledge it should work (have not tried it though, but Thomas did,
he did the integration work as well)
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Trinidad works with FAcelets and Tomahawk (use 1.1.5 for that)
(since commandXXX and form where making some problems)
On 11/16/06, Ulath (AKA: Murat HAZER) <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does trinidad have any incompatibilities with tomahawk components and
> facelets?
>
>
> On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > get a student :)
> >
> > On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > No, I don't. Time for the example app being ported ;)
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > do you have numbers for that "better than struts" ?
> > > >
> > > > On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > > > > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
> > > > > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it
> yourself,
> > > > > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
> > > > > Trinidad).
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Martin
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > > > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this
> question.
> > > > > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> > > > > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it
> was not
> > > > > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet
> sites.
> > > > > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only
> covering a
> > > > > > minimalistic approach.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge
> performance
> > > > > > boost due to good caching.
> > > > > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet
> installations,
> > > > > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> > > > > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > > >
> > > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > > Courses in English and German
> > > > >
> > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
> > > >
> > > > further stuff:
> > > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > http://www.irian.at
> > >
> > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > Courses in English and German
> > >
> > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> > http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Murat HAZER
> http://www.projedunyasi.org
--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by "Ulath (AKA: Murat HAZER)" <mu...@gmail.com>.
Does trinidad have any incompatibilities with tomahawk components and
facelets?
On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> get a student :)
>
> On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > No, I don't. Time for the example app being ported ;)
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > do you have numbers for that "better than struts" ?
> > >
> > > On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > > > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
> > > > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it
> yourself,
> > > > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
> > > > Trinidad).
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this
> question.
> > > > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> > > > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it
> was not
> > > > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet
> sites.
> > > > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only
> covering a
> > > > > minimalistic approach.
> > > > >
> > > > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge
> performance
> > > > > boost due to good caching.
> > > > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet
> installations,
> > > > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > > > >
> > > > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> > > > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
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> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
> http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
>
> further stuff:
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Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
get a student :)
On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, I don't. Time for the example app being ported ;)
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > do you have numbers for that "better than struts" ?
> >
> > On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
> > > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it yourself,
> > > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
> > > Trinidad).
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this question.
> > > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> > > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > > >
> > > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it was not
> > > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet sites.
> > > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only covering a
> > > > minimalistic approach.
> > > >
> > > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge performance
> > > > boost due to good caching.
> > > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet installations,
> > > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > > >
> > > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> > > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > http://www.irian.at
> > >
> > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > Courses in English and German
> > >
> > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> > http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> >
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
No, I don't. Time for the example app being ported ;)
regards,
Martin
On 11/16/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> do you have numbers for that "better than struts" ?
>
> On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> > performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
> > Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it yourself,
> > you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
> > Trinidad).
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this question.
> > > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> > > framework covering extranet sites.
> > >
> > > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it was not
> > > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet sites.
> > > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only covering a
> > > minimalistic approach.
> > >
> > > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge performance
> > > boost due to good caching.
> > > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet installations,
> > > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> > >
> > > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> > > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
> http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
do you have numbers for that "better than struts" ?
On 11/16/06, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
> performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
> Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it yourself,
> you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
> Trinidad).
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this question.
> > Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> > framework covering extranet sites.
> >
> > Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it was not
> > too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet sites.
> > The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only covering a
> > minimalistic approach.
> >
> > The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge performance
> > boost due to good caching.
> > But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet installations,
> > but extranet is a fully different beast.
> >
> > So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> > Does anyone have any experience or samples?
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: general myfaces performance question
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
He should definitely take the Trinidad component set for high
performance requirements, with this, you're in the same region as
Struts for performance (probably better - cause if you do it yourself,
you won't get the same optimized state-saving as is implemented in
Trinidad).
regards,
Martin
On 11/15/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> Ok, before anyone is falling down the chair because I ask this question.
> Here we go. A friend of mine is looking for a struts replacement
> framework covering extranet sites.
>
> Well here we go, my experience with jsf in the past is, that it was not
> too suitable for extranet, but is a perfect choice for intranet sites.
> The reason, higher overhead than plain lean frameworks only covering a
> minimalistic approach.
>
> The situation has changed however, facelets give a huge performance
> boost due to good caching.
> But I lack experience, I know several bigger intranet installations,
> but extranet is a fully different beast.
>
> So my question how good does jsf scale nowadays in those cases.
> Does anyone have any experience or samples?
>
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces