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Posted to dev@lenya.apache.org by Jörn Nettingsmeier <ne...@apache.org> on 2007/12/21 17:50:21 UTC
cocoon 2.1 release...
hi everyone!
it may not be news to most of you, but i just waded through my backlog
of mails and found an announcement by carsten that he is going to
prepare a cocoon 2.1.11 release between christmas and new year's day.
two minor fixes have been applied since then, otherwise it should be
pretty much unchanged.
best,
jörn
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
> On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 23:45 +0100, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>> Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
>>> Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
>>>> Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
>>>>> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>>>>>> Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
>>>>>>> No, we will stick to our decision and release with cocoon head.
>>>>>> Since Cocoon 2.1.11 has been tagged, shall we set the svn:externals in
>>>>>> RELEASE_2_0 to this tag, or shall we keep it at BRANCH_2_1_X?
>>>>> RELEASE. it might be necessary to roll lenya-2.0a tarballs if
>>>>> significant changes crop up during the cocoon release, but i doubt it's
>>>>> going to happen.
>>>> It looks as if there have been some changes to the build process. The
>>>> Xalan jar is not copied to WEB-INF/lib anymore, which makes the tests
>>>> fail and prevents Lenya from starting up. I'll try to find out what
>>>> goes wrong.
>>> The endorsed libs are now only in WEB-INF/lib/endorsed. Apart from that,
>>> externals/cocoon_2_1_x is hard-coded in lenya.sh. Can we change this to
>>> the following declaration?
>>>
>>> ENDORSED_LIBS="${LENYA_WEBAPP_HOME}/WEB-INF/lib/endorsed"
>> It might be a bit risky to tweak our tagged version to work with Cocoon
>> 2.1.11. I see two options:
>>
>> a) Release the already tagged version with a Cocoon revision before the
>> critical changes
>>
>> b) Update Lenya to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 and do another RC
>
>
> I would prefer b) since it would be so much nicer to release 2.0 with a
> stable cocoon 2.1.11.
Unfortunately the combination doesn't work at the moment, and I can't
estimate how long it will take to update Lenya and how risky this is.
Therefore I'm slightly in favor of a). I have specified the Cocoon
revision number in the RELEASE_2_0 tag, but if we decide to postpone the
release, we can still change it.
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 23:45 +0100, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
> > Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
> >> Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
> >>> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> >>>> Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
> >>>>> No, we will stick to our decision and release with cocoon head.
> >>>> Since Cocoon 2.1.11 has been tagged, shall we set the svn:externals in
> >>>> RELEASE_2_0 to this tag, or shall we keep it at BRANCH_2_1_X?
> >>>
> >>> RELEASE. it might be necessary to roll lenya-2.0a tarballs if
> >>> significant changes crop up during the cocoon release, but i doubt it's
> >>> going to happen.
> >>
> >> It looks as if there have been some changes to the build process. The
> >> Xalan jar is not copied to WEB-INF/lib anymore, which makes the tests
> >> fail and prevents Lenya from starting up. I'll try to find out what
> >> goes wrong.
> >
> > The endorsed libs are now only in WEB-INF/lib/endorsed. Apart from that,
> > externals/cocoon_2_1_x is hard-coded in lenya.sh. Can we change this to
> > the following declaration?
> >
> > ENDORSED_LIBS="${LENYA_WEBAPP_HOME}/WEB-INF/lib/endorsed"
>
> It might be a bit risky to tweak our tagged version to work with Cocoon
> 2.1.11. I see two options:
>
> a) Release the already tagged version with a Cocoon revision before the
> critical changes
>
> b) Update Lenya to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 and do another RC
I would prefer b) since it would be so much nicer to release 2.0 with a
stable cocoon 2.1.11.
salu2
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Re: Releasing 2.0 with Cocoon 2.1.11-dev or 2.1.11? (was: Re: cocoon 2.1 release...)
Posted by Bob Harner <bo...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 4, 2008 7:06 AM, Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Lenya devs,
>
> Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
>
> [...]
>
> > It might be a bit risky to tweak our tagged version to work with Cocoon
> > 2.1.11. I see two options:
> >
> > a) Release the already tagged version with a Cocoon revision before the
> > critical changes
+1
> >
> > b) Update Lenya to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 and do another RC
>
> ATM we have +2 for (a) and +1 for (b). Are there more opinions?
>
> Lenya 2.0-dev seems to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 now, so we could do
> another RC immediately. But this would delay the release for at least
> another week, unless everyone is confident that we can release without
> further testing.
>
> Please state your opinions. Thanks a lot in advance!
>
> Thorsten, if it is difficult for you to find the time to do the release,
> please let me know. I can spend a couple of hours today, and again next
> week.
>
> -- Andreas
>
>
> --
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Re: Releasing 2.0 with Cocoon 2.1.11-dev or 2.1.11? (was: Re: cocoon 2.1 release...)
Posted by Bob Harner <bo...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 4, 2008 7:06 AM, Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Lenya devs,
>
> Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
>
> [...]
>
> > It might be a bit risky to tweak our tagged version to work with Cocoon
> > 2.1.11. I see two options:
> >
> > a) Release the already tagged version with a Cocoon revision before the
> > critical changes
+1
> >
> > b) Update Lenya to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 and do another RC
>
> ATM we have +2 for (a) and +1 for (b). Are there more opinions?
>
> Lenya 2.0-dev seems to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 now, so we could do
> another RC immediately. But this would delay the release for at least
> another week, unless everyone is confident that we can release without
> further testing.
>
> Please state your opinions. Thanks a lot in advance!
>
> Thorsten, if it is difficult for you to find the time to do the release,
> please let me know. I can spend a couple of hours today, and again next
> week.
>
> -- Andreas
>
>
> --
> Andreas Hartmann, CTO
> BeCompany GmbH
> http://www.becompany.ch
> Tel.: +41 (0) 43 818 57 01
>
>
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Releasing 2.0 with Cocoon 2.1.11-dev or 2.1.11? (was: Re: cocoon
2.1 release...)
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Hi Lenya devs,
Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
[...]
> It might be a bit risky to tweak our tagged version to work with Cocoon
> 2.1.11. I see two options:
>
> a) Release the already tagged version with a Cocoon revision before the
> critical changes
>
> b) Update Lenya to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 and do another RC
ATM we have +2 for (a) and +1 for (b). Are there more opinions?
Lenya 2.0-dev seems to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 now, so we could do
another RC immediately. But this would delay the release for at least
another week, unless everyone is confident that we can release without
further testing.
Please state your opinions. Thanks a lot in advance!
Thorsten, if it is difficult for you to find the time to do the release,
please let me know. I can spend a couple of hours today, and again next
week.
-- Andreas
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
> Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
>> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>>> It might be a bit risky to tweak our tagged version to work with Cocoon
>>> 2.1.11. I see two options:
>>>
>>> a) Release the already tagged version with a Cocoon revision before the
>>> critical changes
>>>
>>> b) Update Lenya to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 and do another RC
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>
>> a)
>>
>> then after cocoon 2.1.11 is out, do lenya-2.0a.tar.gz. should be a
>> drop-in replacement.
>
> I set it to revision 603664 which was the current revision when the vote
> to release 2.0 from RC6 had been started. The unit tests succeed, and
> the application starts up. I didn't do more thorough testing, I hope
> this won't be necessary.
The webtests succeed as well. I had to update them in the trunk to some
changes to the GUI, I didn't merge the changes to the 2.0 tag. I hope we
can live without working web tests in 2.0, otherwise we'll probably have
to do another RC.
-- Andreas
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>> It might be a bit risky to tweak our tagged version to work with Cocoon
>> 2.1.11. I see two options:
>>
>> a) Release the already tagged version with a Cocoon revision before the
>> critical changes
>>
>> b) Update Lenya to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 and do another RC
>>
>> WDYT?
>
> a)
>
> then after cocoon 2.1.11 is out, do lenya-2.0a.tar.gz. should be a
> drop-in replacement.
I set it to revision 603664 which was the current revision when the vote
to release 2.0 from RC6 had been started. The unit tests succeed, and
the application starts up. I didn't do more thorough testing, I hope
this won't be necessary.
-- Andreas
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Jörn Nettingsmeier <ne...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> It might be a bit risky to tweak our tagged version to work with Cocoon
> 2.1.11. I see two options:
>
> a) Release the already tagged version with a Cocoon revision before the
> critical changes
>
> b) Update Lenya to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 and do another RC
>
> WDYT?
a)
then after cocoon 2.1.11 is out, do lenya-2.0a.tar.gz. should be a
drop-in replacement.
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
> Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
>> Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
>>> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>>>> Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
>>>>> No, we will stick to our decision and release with cocoon head.
>>>> Since Cocoon 2.1.11 has been tagged, shall we set the svn:externals in
>>>> RELEASE_2_0 to this tag, or shall we keep it at BRANCH_2_1_X?
>>>
>>> RELEASE. it might be necessary to roll lenya-2.0a tarballs if
>>> significant changes crop up during the cocoon release, but i doubt it's
>>> going to happen.
>>
>> It looks as if there have been some changes to the build process. The
>> Xalan jar is not copied to WEB-INF/lib anymore, which makes the tests
>> fail and prevents Lenya from starting up. I'll try to find out what
>> goes wrong.
>
> The endorsed libs are now only in WEB-INF/lib/endorsed. Apart from that,
> externals/cocoon_2_1_x is hard-coded in lenya.sh. Can we change this to
> the following declaration?
>
> ENDORSED_LIBS="${LENYA_WEBAPP_HOME}/WEB-INF/lib/endorsed"
It might be a bit risky to tweak our tagged version to work with Cocoon
2.1.11. I see two options:
a) Release the already tagged version with a Cocoon revision before the
critical changes
b) Update Lenya to work with Cocoon 2.1.11 and do another RC
WDYT?
-- Andreas
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
> Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
>> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>>> Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
>>>> No, we will stick to our decision and release with cocoon head.
>>> Since Cocoon 2.1.11 has been tagged, shall we set the svn:externals in
>>> RELEASE_2_0 to this tag, or shall we keep it at BRANCH_2_1_X?
>>
>> RELEASE. it might be necessary to roll lenya-2.0a tarballs if
>> significant changes crop up during the cocoon release, but i doubt it's
>> going to happen.
>
> It looks as if there have been some changes to the build process. The
> Xalan jar is not copied to WEB-INF/lib anymore, which makes the tests
> fail and prevents Lenya from starting up. I'll try to find out what goes
> wrong.
The endorsed libs are now only in WEB-INF/lib/endorsed. Apart from that,
externals/cocoon_2_1_x is hard-coded in lenya.sh. Can we change this to
the following declaration?
ENDORSED_LIBS="${LENYA_WEBAPP_HOME}/WEB-INF/lib/endorsed"
-- Andreas
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
> Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
>> Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
>>> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>>>> Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
>>>>> No, we will stick to our decision and release with cocoon head.
>>>> Since Cocoon 2.1.11 has been tagged, shall we set the svn:externals in
>>>> RELEASE_2_0 to this tag, or shall we keep it at BRANCH_2_1_X?
>>>
>>> RELEASE. it might be necessary to roll lenya-2.0a tarballs if
>>> significant changes crop up during the cocoon release, but i doubt it's
>>> going to happen.
>>
>> It looks as if there have been some changes to the build process. The
>> Xalan jar is not copied to WEB-INF/lib anymore, which makes the tests
>> fail and prevents Lenya from starting up. I'll try to find out what
>> goes wrong.
>
> BTW, the zones demo didn't complain because the Cocoon SVN hasn't been
> updated lately ("object of the same name exists" in some block).
I fixed it, the demo is up again with the Cocoon 2.1.x head.
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
> Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
>> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>>> Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
>>>> No, we will stick to our decision and release with cocoon head.
>>> Since Cocoon 2.1.11 has been tagged, shall we set the svn:externals in
>>> RELEASE_2_0 to this tag, or shall we keep it at BRANCH_2_1_X?
>>
>> RELEASE. it might be necessary to roll lenya-2.0a tarballs if
>> significant changes crop up during the cocoon release, but i doubt it's
>> going to happen.
>
> It looks as if there have been some changes to the build process. The
> Xalan jar is not copied to WEB-INF/lib anymore, which makes the tests
> fail and prevents Lenya from starting up. I'll try to find out what goes
> wrong.
BTW, the zones demo didn't complain because the Cocoon SVN hasn't been
updated lately ("object of the same name exists" in some block).
-- Andreas
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>> Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
>>> No, we will stick to our decision and release with cocoon head.
>> Since Cocoon 2.1.11 has been tagged, shall we set the svn:externals in
>> RELEASE_2_0 to this tag, or shall we keep it at BRANCH_2_1_X?
>
> RELEASE. it might be necessary to roll lenya-2.0a tarballs if
> significant changes crop up during the cocoon release, but i doubt it's
> going to happen.
It looks as if there have been some changes to the build process. The
Xalan jar is not copied to WEB-INF/lib anymore, which makes the tests
fail and prevents Lenya from starting up. I'll try to find out what goes
wrong.
-- Andreas
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Jörn Nettingsmeier <ne...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
>> No, we will stick to our decision and release with cocoon head.
>
> Since Cocoon 2.1.11 has been tagged, shall we set the svn:externals in
> RELEASE_2_0 to this tag, or shall we keep it at BRANCH_2_1_X?
RELEASE. it might be necessary to roll lenya-2.0a tarballs if
significant changes crop up during the cocoon release, but i doubt it's
going to happen.
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
> On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 11:47 +0100, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>> Hi Jörn,
>>
>> Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
>>
>>> it may not be news to most of you, but i just waded through my backlog
>>> of mails and found an announcement by carsten that he is going to
>>> prepare a cocoon 2.1.11 release between christmas and new year's day.
>>> two minor fixes have been applied since then, otherwise it should be
>>> pretty much unchanged.
>> that's really good news. Should we wait for it before releasing 2.0? Are
>> there any significant changes?
>
> No, we will stick to our decision and release with cocoon head.
Since Cocoon 2.1.11 has been tagged, shall we set the svn:externals in
RELEASE_2_0 to this tag, or shall we keep it at BRANCH_2_1_X?
-- Andreas
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 11:47 +0100, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Hi Jörn,
>
> Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
>
> > it may not be news to most of you, but i just waded through my backlog
> > of mails and found an announcement by carsten that he is going to
> > prepare a cocoon 2.1.11 release between christmas and new year's day.
> > two minor fixes have been applied since then, otherwise it should be
> > pretty much unchanged.
>
> that's really good news. Should we wait for it before releasing 2.0? Are
> there any significant changes?
No, we will stick to our decision and release with cocoon head.
salu2
>
> -- Andreas
>
>
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Jörn Nettingsmeier <ne...@apache.org>.
hi andreas, hi everyone!
hope you had (and still have) a relaxing christmas time.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Hi Jörn,
>
> Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
>
>> it may not be news to most of you, but i just waded through my backlog
>> of mails and found an announcement by carsten that he is going to
>> prepare a cocoon 2.1.11 release between christmas and new year's day.
>> two minor fixes have been applied since then, otherwise it should be
>> pretty much unchanged.
>
> that's really good news. Should we wait for it before releasing 2.0? Are
> there any significant changes?
i'm aware of two minor fixes, one was for a ZipSource testcase, i forget
what the other was. somebody announced they had an XHTMLFileSource fix
in their queue that still needs to be committed.
but i don't think we should delay the release - just get it out the
door, if only for psychological reasons (i mean, it just has to be in
2007, right? two years slippage is just a minor faux pas, but two years
one month is really bad release management imho). by the time people
will start playing with it for real, cocoon 2.1 will be out too.
or you could get in touch with carsten and synchronise release
announcements, but only if it really happens in the next 2-3 days...
best,
jörn
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Re: cocoon 2.1 release...
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Hi Jörn,
Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
> it may not be news to most of you, but i just waded through my backlog
> of mails and found an announcement by carsten that he is going to
> prepare a cocoon 2.1.11 release between christmas and new year's day.
> two minor fixes have been applied since then, otherwise it should be
> pretty much unchanged.
that's really good news. Should we wait for it before releasing 2.0? Are
there any significant changes?
-- Andreas
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